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Started by Sheilbh, August 16, 2009, 07:10:03 AM

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Admiral Yi

Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 20, 2009, 12:08:07 PM
John Stewart made an interesting "freedom of expression"point last night. At a recent AZ speech Obama made on death panels(sic) etc... there were several dudes with loaded automatic weapons there protesting. Nothing happened to these guys. no big deal apparently.

Yet when Bush was stumping Iraq invasions etc and people wore crappily made anti-Bush t-shirts, they were arrested. t-shirts are more dangerous than assault rifles? America is so diverse. :p
Sounds like bullshit.  John Stewart is a nebbish.

BuddhaRhubarb

Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 20, 2009, 12:15:23 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 20, 2009, 12:08:07 PM
John Stewart made an interesting "freedom of expression"point last night. At a recent AZ speech Obama made on death panels(sic) etc... there were several dudes with loaded automatic weapons there protesting. Nothing happened to these guys. no big deal apparently.

Yet when Bush was stumping Iraq invasions etc and people wore crappily made anti-Bush t-shirts, they were arrested. t-shirts are more dangerous than assault rifles? America is so diverse. :p
Sounds like bullshit.  John Stewart is a nebbish.

um no there was CNN footage of both incidents. The anti Bush thing was in NH. Back when people got arrested for wearing protest tees in malls. late Kapland/early migration to Languish from KAPland era.
:p

Admiral Yi

Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 20, 2009, 12:17:18 PM
um no there was CNN footage of both incidents. The anti Bush thing was in NH. Back when people got arrested for wearing protest tees in malls. late Kapland/early migration to Languish from KAPland era.
They were arrested by law enforcement and charged with the crime of wearing protest tees?

BuddhaRhubarb

Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 20, 2009, 12:19:51 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 20, 2009, 12:17:18 PM
um no there was CNN footage of both incidents. The anti Bush thing was in NH. Back when people got arrested for wearing protest tees in malls. late Kapland/early migration to Languish from KAPland era.
They were arrested by law enforcement and charged with the crime of wearing protest tees?
they were detained by police then let go iirc... but simply for wearing protest t-shirts... back in the hardcore with us or against us days. there were a lot of those stories on the news then.


fuck i hate this new quoting system.
:p

Admiral Yi

I don't remember a single one of them. :huh:

BuddhaRhubarb

:p

Admiral Yi

Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 20, 2009, 12:23:53 PM
I recall several.
I recall a few instances of people being escorted from Bush public appearances.  I don't recall any cases of people being arrested for wearing t-shirts in public.

Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 20, 2009, 12:23:20 PM
I don't remember a single one of them. :huh:

You have this problem alot I've noticed.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Razgovory on August 20, 2009, 12:41:36 PM
You have this problem alot I've noticed.
I noticed you ran away from the discussion on death panels crying like a school girl.

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ulmont

Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 20, 2009, 12:27:37 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 20, 2009, 12:23:53 PM
I recall several.
I recall a few instances of people being escorted from Bush public appearances.  I don't recall any cases of people being arrested for wearing t-shirts in public.

"The federal government has agreed to pay $80,000 to a Texas couple arrested and charged with trespassing in 2004 after they refused to cover up homemade T-shirts with anti-Bush slogans."
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=18932

PDH

The more I forget, the happier I am.

It is the best way to face a new semester of 18 year old freshmen.
I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.
-Umberto Eco

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Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 20, 2009, 12:46:41 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 20, 2009, 12:41:36 PM
You have this problem alot I've noticed.
I noticed you ran away from the discussion on death panels crying like a school girl.

I was a little disgusted with you but other people made my point so I didn't need to follow up on it.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Malthus

Quote from: PDH on August 20, 2009, 01:12:02 PM
The more I forget, the happier I am.

It is the best way to face a new semester of 18 year old freshmen.

As in 'forgetting that professional ethics forbids extrorting sex from sweet young students in exchange for good grades'?  :D
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

saskganesh

a cursory search of headlines reveals that people have been arrested for

anti-Bush shirts
anti-Obama shirts
McCain shirts
Niggers with Attitude shirts
Naked Posh Spice shirts
Hemp shirts
US Flag shirts
Blasphemy shirts
Police shirts
toy robot shirts
Peace logo shirts

and so on.

my conclusion: some people really hate t-shirts

humans were created in their own image