Tensions high in Himalayas as China demands Indian troop withdrawal

Started by jimmy olsen, July 05, 2017, 08:12:07 AM

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jimmy olsen

Do you guys think this will come to anything serious?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/tensions-high-in-himalayas-as-china-demands-india-withdrawal/2017/07/05/b80dea10-6163-11e7-80a2-8c226031ac3f_story.html?utm_term=.409bc13481c9

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Tensions high in Himalayas as China demands India withdrawal

Xi Jinping, China's president, arrives in Berlin, Germany, July 5. (Krisztian Bocsi/Bloomberg)

By Gerry Shih and Muneeza Naqvi | AP July 5 at 6:54 AM
BEIJING — China on Wednesday insisted India withdraw its troops from a disputed plateau in the Himalayan mountains before talks can take place to settle the most protracted standoff in recent years between the nuclear-armed neighbors who fought a brief but bloody frontier war in the area 55 years ago.

India must pull back its troops "as soon as possible" as a precondition to demonstrate "sincerity," foreign ministry spokesman Geng Shuang told reporters at a daily news briefing.

His comments came after weeks of saber-rattling in New Delhi and Beijing, as officials from both sides talk up a potential clash even bloodier than their 1962 war that left thousands dead.


The confrontation could spill over into the G-20 summit in Germany later this week where Chinese President Xi Jinping and his Indian counterpart Narendra Modi are expected to meet at a gathering of leaders from five emerging economies on the sidelines of the main event in Hamburg.

The month-long standoff — and unconfirmed reports of troop buildups on both sides of the border — has also underscored the swiftly deteriorating relations between the two Asian rivals.

China claims about 90,000 square kilometers (35,000 square miles) in the Indian province of Arunachal Pradesh, referred to informally by some Chinese as "Southern Tibet." India says China is occupying 38,000 square kilometers (15,000 square miles) of its territory on the Aksai Chin plateau.

[Tibetans in anguish as Chinese mines pollute their sacred grasslands]

More than a dozen rounds of talks have failed to make substantial progress in the dispute, although there have been relatively few confrontations in recent years.

China appeared frustrated that India refused to sign on this year to its continent-wide "One Belt, One Road" infrastructure initiative, which includes a component in Pakistan and a part of Kashmir that is contested by India.

China also complained bitterly when Tibet's spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, who lives in exile in India, visited Arunachal Pradesh in April, something India said amounted to interference in its internal affairs. Yet India also formally joined the Russian and Chinese-dominated Shanghai Cooperation Organization this year alongside Pakistan.

The latest dispute flared up in June after Chinese teams began building a road on territory also claimed by Bhutan. Although China and Bhutan have spent decades negotiating the precise border without serious incident, the tiny Himalayan kingdom sought help this time from its longtime ally, India, which sent troops onto the plateau to obstruct Chinese workers.

China then retaliated by closing a mountain pass that Indian pilgrims use to reach Mount Kailash, a sacred Hindu and Buddhist site in Tibet.


[China's plan to 'liberate' a cradle of Tibetan culture]

Since then, videos have emerged of Indian and Chinese soldiers blocking each other with their arms and physically jostling without coming to blows. After Chinese officials said India should learn "historic lessons" from its humiliating defeat in the 1962 war, Indian Defense Minister Arun Jaitley shot back by saying that "India in 2017 is different from India in 1962," in a reference to its improved military strength.

In an editorial headlined "India would bear brunt of new border clash," China's outspoken nationalist tabloid Global Times ramped up the rhetoric Wednesday by saying that China was in no mood to make concessions.

"The Indian military can choose to return to its territory with dignity, or be kicked out of the area by Chinese soldiers," said the paper, which is published by the ruling Communist Party flagship People's Daily.


Meanwhile, the more mainstream China Daily suggested that some in the Indian military were seeking payback for the 1962 war.

"Perhaps its defeat in that war was too humiliating for some in the Indian military and that is why they are talking belligerently this time," it said.


Although the Doklam Plateau is not part of Indian territory, India's Ministry of Externals Affairs has called Chinese actions in the area a move with "serious security implications for India."

Former Indian ambassador to Beijing, Matrim Silva, said that Doklam is a strategically important area that can provide access to the vital Siliguri corridor —also known as the "Chicken Neck" — that connects India's northeast with the rest of the country. But he said he was "baffled" as to why the dispute flared up now.

"The fact that this has lasted so long is not a good sign," he said. "India and China's relationship has been on a downward trend recently and this in fact is yet another example."


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garbon

Quote from: The Larch on July 05, 2017, 09:57:04 AM
QuoteFormer Indian ambassador to Beijing, Matrim Silva

:XD:

Omg, so we were all having lunch with an ambassador?
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jimmy olsen

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Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
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Jet: I see.
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Eddie Teach

FAKE NEWS.

What is the real ambassadors name, or did you make up the entire quote?
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Eddie Teach on July 05, 2017, 11:58:02 PM
FAKE NEWS.

What is the real ambassadors name, or did you make up the entire quote?

You could always click on the link and find out. C.V. Ranganathan
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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garbon

Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 06, 2017, 12:36:11 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on July 05, 2017, 11:58:02 PM
FAKE NEWS.

What is the real ambassadors name, or did you make up the entire quote?

You could always click on the link and find out. C.V. Ranganathan

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Caliga

Matrim :lol:

I feel like you had to have done that on purpose, Timmy.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Caliga on July 06, 2017, 06:56:10 AM
Matrim :lol:

I feel like you had to have done that on purpose, Timmy.

Of course I did! I read that quote and immediately thought of him, so I changed it to check if any one actually read the article.

CdM failed the test, but the Larch passed with flying colors.
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Jet: I see.
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Eddie Teach

He meant misspelling Martim, not changing the ambassador's name.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Eddie Teach on July 07, 2017, 12:24:06 AM
He meant misspelling Martim, not changing the ambassador's name.

Wait, really? Until you made this post I was 100% sure that was his name.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 06, 2017, 11:01:16 PM
CdM failed the test, but the Larch passed with flying colors.

Didn't read the article, went straight to the "high tensions at that altitude" joke.