What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

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Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

dps

Quote from: Razgovory on December 06, 2017, 07:20:28 PM
I just hope none of our people die.

Do you mean American embassy personnel in Israel, or Languishites, or some other group that qualifies as "our" people?

Valmy

Quote from: dps on December 06, 2017, 09:24:03 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 06, 2017, 07:20:28 PM
I just hope none of our people die.

Do you mean American embassy personnel in Israel, or Languishites, or some other group that qualifies as "our" people?

Raz is referring to God's chosen people. You know. Missouri natives.
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grumbler

Quote from: celedhring on December 06, 2017, 06:20:17 PM
Meh, Trump could have moved the embassy to Jerusalem with that law or without, since I assume is within the president's purview. I guess the act is a fig leaf for him.

Nope.  Congress has to appropriate funds to move an embassy.
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garbon

I see Trumpista line is that it isn't Trump's fault if people die, that's solely on the perpetrators.
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celedhring

Quote from: grumbler on December 06, 2017, 10:14:09 PM
Quote from: celedhring on December 06, 2017, 06:20:17 PM
Meh, Trump could have moved the embassy to Jerusalem with that law or without, since I assume is within the president's purview. I guess the act is a fig leaf for him.

Nope.  Congress has to appropriate funds to move an embassy.

Fair enough, then


The Larch


Razgovory

Quote from: Valmy on December 06, 2017, 09:38:27 PM
Quote from: dps on December 06, 2017, 09:24:03 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 06, 2017, 07:20:28 PM
I just hope none of our people die.

Do you mean American embassy personnel in Israel, or Languishites, or some other group that qualifies as "our" people?

Raz is referring to God's chosen people. You know. Missouri natives.


Everyone I have ever killed was a Missouri native.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

garbon

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/06/jared-kushner-trump-jerusalem-mideast-peace-283770?lo=ap_c1

QuoteKushner bets he can have it both ways on Jerusalem move

Jared Kushner is betting the house on a risky strategy that Middle East experts worry will derail any future Israeli-Palestinian peace deal — as well as what remains of the powerful son-in-law's shrinking West Wing portfolio.

He privately encouraged President Donald Trump's announcement Wednesday that "Jerusalem is Israel's capital," which was seen by some experts in the region as a setback for peace efforts led by Kushner and his small team. The group has made dozens of trips to the region and spent hours on listening tours, working to gain the trust of the Palestinians and the broader Arab world.

"It is very, very hard to imagine how that peace effort can be continued," said Ghaith al-Omari, who served as an adviser to the Palestinian Authority's negotiating team from 1999 to 2002. "All the Arab leaders who have been cultivating relations with the new administration will be forced to come out very strongly against this."

But a person close to Kushner said he was forceful in his backing of the move. "Encouraging would be an understatement," the person said. "It was him."

Kushner has been hemmed in since the arrival of chief of staff John Kelly, losing his free-floating "first among equals" status in the White House while wrestling with increased scrutiny from special counsel Robert Mueller. These days, close associates said, Kushner is primarily driven by one goal: to prove himself by delivering a Middle East peace deal many skeptics doubt he can close.

He is banking on the hope that the opposition is just a facade — and that, privately, after a "cooling-off period," Arab allies will continue to work with him on a peace plan he still expects to announce at some point in the early months of 2018.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

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CountDeMoney

How long was the last cooling-off period?  600 years or so?

garbon

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/363729-trump-asks-for-emergency-stay-on-accepting-transgender-military-recruits-by

QuoteThe Trump administration is asking a federal judge to delay a requirement to begin accepting transgender recruits to the military on Jan. 1.

"Specifically, Defendants request that the Court stay the portion of its preliminary injunction requiring Defendants to begin accessing transgender individuals into the military on January 1, 2018, pending a decision by the D.C. Circuit on Defendants' appeal," the government wrote in an motion filed late Wednesday.

They and the plaintiffs have asked for a decision by noon Monday.

In October, Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia blocked President Trump's ban on transgender troops while a lawsuit against it is working its way through court.

Last month, after a motion by the Trump administration, Kollar-Kotelly issued a follow-up ruling clarifying the earlier one that said the military must accept transgender recruits by Jan. 1, as it had planned to do prior to Trump's ban.

In July, Trump tweeted that he would ban transgender people from serving in the military in any capacity.

He made good on the tweets in August, signing a presidential memo that prohibits the military from enlisting transgender people and from using funds to pay for gender transition-related surgery. The memo also gave Defense Secretary James Mattis six months to determine what to do with currently serving transgender troops.

The National Center for Lesbian Rights (NCLR) and GLBTQ Legal Advocates & Defenders (GLAD) sued in August on behalf of six unnamed service members and two recruits.

After Kollar-Kotelly's rulings, the Pentagon said it was preparing to comply and accept transgender recruits by Jan. 1 even while the administration explores its legal options.

"While reviewing legal options with the Department of Justice, the Department of Defense is taking steps to be prepared to initiate accessions of transgender applicants for military service on January 1, 2018, per recent court orders," Pentagon spokesman Army Maj. Dave Eastburn said in a statement to several news outlets this week.

But in Wednesday's motion, the administration argued that it will be "seriously and irreparably harmed if forced" to implement the policy by Jan. 1.

"Given the complex and multidisciplinary nature of the medical standards that need to be issued and the tens of thousands of geographically dispersed individuals that need to be trained, the military will not be adequately prepared to begin processing transgender applicants for military service by January 1, 2018, and requiring the military to do so may negatively impact military readiness," the motion said.


The motion also argued that the plaintiffs will not be negatively affected by a delay because the two who want to join the military will not be eligible to do so until May 2020 and spring 2021.

In a sworn statement included in the motion, Lernes Hebert, acting deputy assistant secretary of Defense for military personnel policy, added that accepting transgender recruits by the new year would "impose extraordinary burdens" on the Pentagon by needing to prepare 20,367 recruiters, 2,785 employees across 65 Military Entrance Processing Stations, 32 service medical waiver authorities and personnel at nine boot camps.

"Beyond the sheer number of components and personnel involved, the implementation of accessions criteria is itself a complex undertaking," he wrote. "In the case of the transgender accession standards, the standards themselves are complex, interdisciplinary standards necessitating evaluation across several systems of the body, to include behavioral and mental health (e.g. diagnosis of gender dysphoria or related comorbidities), surgical procedures (particularly thoracic and genital), and endocrinology (for the purposes of cross-sex hormone therapy). No other accession standard has been implemented that presents such a multifaceted review of an applicant's medical history."
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Grey Fox on December 07, 2017, 08:14:36 AM
He's probably right.

Palestinians are not exactly known for easily letting go of the past.
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