What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[celedhring]

US fires Greenland military base chief for 'undermining' Vance

From the guy lecturing Europeans on free speech.

Well, tbf I'm of the opinion that members of the military should enjoy the same freedom of speech as in Soviet Russia. Even if the VP is a cretin.

I understand that the base chief has to manage the relationship with the locals once Vance came and left his turd, but she'd been smarter than that.

[viper37]

Trump Admin Considering Giving $10,000 To Each Person In Greenland To Annex The Island

The Donald Trump administration is reportedly considering giving about $10,000 to each Greenland resident as part of its plan to annex the island.

The possibility would seek to replace the $600 million Denmark gives the territory in subsidies every year, and has stopped being mere rhetoric to become official U.S. policy, according to The New York Times.

The outlet detailed that the plan already includes several cabinet departments and that the White House's National Security Council has met several times to advance on it, recently sending specific instructions to different offices.
The policy prioritizes persuasion, rather than coercion, and has not seriously included military options, an administration official told the NYT.

The administration has also reportedly begun analyzing the actual cost of annexing Greenland, with officials are seeking to determine the financial impact of such an outcome, including providing government services for the almost 60,000 residents of the semi-autonomous territory.

Citing people familiar with the matter, the Washington Post added that staff at the White House budget office is also seeking to estimate the revenue the U.S. would get from Greenland and its resources. Some officials believe the revenue from extracting natural resources could offset the cost of administering the territory, as they include rare earth minerals, copper, gold, uranium and oil.

Trump and other officials have kept the issue at the forefront of the conversation, with Trump saying during the weekend that the U.S. will "get" Greenland and that the use of force is not ruled out. There is a "good possibility that we could do it without military force," Trump said, later refusing to "take anything off the table."

Greenland residents are soundly opposing the move, but U.S. officials continue to move forward, with Vice President JD Vance visiting the territory in late March. Speaking at the Pituffik Space Base on the island's northwestern coast, Vance said that "the story of Greenland over the past 20 years when it comes to security is that we've underinvested in the infrastructure."

The visit to the U.S. military installation came amid controversy over the original itinerary. Usha Vance had initially planned a cultural visit, but protests and political tensions led to a shift in plan, as CNN reports. The White House has denied that the change was influenced by planned demonstrations, instead citing logistical concerns and Greenland's ongoing government formation.

Denmark's Foreign Minister criticized the visit, especially its "tone." Lars Løkke Rasmussen said in a publication that "we agree that status quo in the Arctic is not an option. So let's talk about how we can fix it - together."

[viper37]

US fires Greenland military base chief for 'undermining' Vance

From the guy lecturing Europeans on free speech.

Well, tbf I'm of the opinion that members of the military should enjoy the same freedom of speech as in Soviet Russia. Even if the VP is a cretin.

I understand that the base chief has to manage the relationship with the locals once Vance came and left his turd, but she'd been smarter than that.

The VP isn't the commander in chief.  He isn't part of the chain of command.
https://thegunzone.com/is-the-vice-president-in-the-military-chain-of-command/

He is a nobody.

Had it been SecDef, I would have agreed with your point.

[HisMajestyBOB]

RFK says by September they will know what's behind the "autism epidemic" in the US.

It's a dangerous lack of parasites and dead animals. He'll introduce a new program to address the issue, with the slogan, "Roadkill in every pot and a brainworm in every head."

[celedhring]

US fires Greenland military base chief for 'undermining' Vance

From the guy lecturing Europeans on free speech.

Well, tbf I'm of the opinion that members of the military should enjoy the same freedom of speech as in Soviet Russia. Even if the VP is a cretin.

I understand that the base chief has to manage the relationship with the locals once Vance came and left his turd, but she'd been smarter than that.

The VP isn't the commander in chief.  He isn't part of the chain of command.
https://thegunzone.com/is-the-vice-president-in-the-military-chain-of-command/

He is a nobody.

Had it been SecDef, I would have agreed with your point.

Doesn't matter. Army personnel should not be seen as criticizing elected politicians, even when they deserve such derision. Same with cops. The coercive power of the state should be politically mute.

[crazy canuck]

US fires Greenland military base chief for 'undermining' Vance

From the guy lecturing Europeans on free speech.

Well, tbf I'm of the opinion that members of the military should enjoy the same freedom of speech as in Soviet Russia. Even if the VP is a cretin.

I understand that the base chief has to manage the relationship with the locals once Vance came and left his turd, but she'd been smarter than that.

The VP isn't the commander in chief.  He isn't part of the chain of command.
https://thegunzone.com/is-the-vice-president-in-the-military-chain-of-command/

He is a nobody.

Had it been SecDef, I would have agreed with your point.

Grumbler, or others will set me straight if I am wrong, but it seems to me the VP is a somebody for the US military.  A quick google search found article 88

Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall ...

[viper37]

US fires Greenland military base chief for 'undermining' Vance

From the guy lecturing Europeans on free speech.

Well, tbf I'm of the opinion that members of the military should enjoy the same freedom of speech as in Soviet Russia. Even if the VP is a cretin.

I understand that the base chief has to manage the relationship with the locals once Vance came and left his turd, but she'd been smarter than that.

The VP isn't the commander in chief.  He isn't part of the chain of command.
https://thegunzone.com/is-the-vice-president-in-the-military-chain-of-command/

He is a nobody.

Had it been SecDef, I would have agreed with your point.

Doesn't matter. Army personnel should not be seen as criticizing elected politicians, even when they deserve such derision. Same with cops. The coercive power of the state should be politically mute.

He's not elected either.

[viper37]

Grumbler, or others will set me straight if I am wrong, but it seems to me the VP is a somebody for the US military.  A quick google search found article 88

Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall ...

And she did not use contemptuous words against the VP.

[viper37]

Trump Admin to Slice NASA in Half and Cancel New Telescopes

[crazy canuck]

Grumbler, or others will set me straight if I am wrong, but it seems to me the VP is a somebody for the US military.  A quick google search found article 88

Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall ...

And she did not use contemptuous words against the VP.

I am not saying she falls with article 88, I am pointing out the claim that VP is a nobody seems to be false.  And if the VP is someone who is owed respect, then a commanding officer of a military base should probably not be publicly contradicting the VP.

[Sheilbh]

I've mentioned it before but this clip from Australia is I think a very admirable display on civil-military relations:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-28/defence-chiefs-desert-christopher-pyne-in-press-conference/10949250

It's happened here too a few times but I am very uncomfortable with the way you see soldiers lined up as a backdrop for a politician's speech. (And to their credit I believe defence chiefs here tend to insist it's not a party political speech - but can be about, say, defence.)

[The Minsky Moment]

Being an American now is like watching one of these slow motion car crashes in a movie, where you see every smash and roll, leading up to the inevitable total ruin and explosion to come.

Except we are not watching,  we are in the car.

[Valmy]

So now that all these tariffs are in place I guess we wait to see if Trump's dysfunctional and collapsing administrative state can actually succeed in collecting any tariff money from the imports. It would sure be funny if he just shut out export markets for our guys while failing to execute his tariff regime on theirs.

[Jacob]

The Donald Trump administration is reportedly considering giving about $10,000 to each Greenland resident as part of its plan to annex the island.

Denmark transfers money to the local Greenland government every year, to run the administration and provide services there. The amount is basically equivalent to US$ 10,000 per resident. Anually.

On top of that, of course, Greenlanders with medical issues that can't be treated locally are transported to mainland Denmark and treated for free. Similarly, they can pursue post-secondary and graduate degrees at Danish universities for free, while receiving stipends to cover their living expenses (same as all Danes).

In pure monetary terms, receiving a one-time payment of US$ 10,000 to give that up does not make sense.

[Bauer]

And in exchange Danes satisfy their ancestral urge to sustain habitation in places unsuitable for human life.