What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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The Brain

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dist

It's too windy. The stupid wind never stops blowing  :ph34r:

Legbiter

Quote from: Bauer on April 11, 2025, 01:00:00 PMAnd in exchange Danes satisfy their ancestral urge to sustain habitation in places unsuitable for human life.

Well it could be worse, at least it's not Canada.  ;)
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Valmy

Quote from: Valmy on April 11, 2025, 12:56:01 PMSo now that all these tariffs are in place I guess we wait to see if Trump's dysfunctional and collapsing administrative state can actually succeed in collecting any tariff money from the imports. It would sure be funny if he just shut out export markets for our guys while failing to execute his tariff regime on theirs.

Hey look I am a damn genius.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/customs-reports-glitch-in-system-used-by-freight-for-tariff-exemptions.html

QuoteAn alert from U.S. Customs and Border Protection on Friday notified users of a glitch in the system that is used to exempt freight from tariffs, including shipments from China that were already on the water at the time of this week's whipsaw in tariffs policy, and any trade from nations now under the 90-day pause put in place by the Trump administration.

The alert explained that U.S. Customs discovered that the entry code for U.S. shippers to use to have their freight exempted is not working and "the issue is being reviewed."

In the alert, Customs advised filers "to transmit cargo release separately and follow up with the summary filing when resolved."

Normally, when a U.S. importer pays for their freight, they file both the cargo release forms and their financial papers, so they can pay for their cargo. To keep the cargo moving, Customs is advising importers to file the cargo release form now, and file the financial form later, once the glitch is corrected.

For now, that means the tariffs are not being collected by the U.S. government.

The tariffs being paused on many nation's trade, and the Chinese tariffs still in effect, are based on the sailing date, or the date the freight leaves the factory or warehouse. This is called an "on the water" clause and is in effect for all freight bound to the U.S. that has been on the water before the April 5, 9, and 10 tariff announcements.

The on the water clause has not changed, even though the China tariff percentages have increased to 145% and a series of other recent tariffs have been put in place.

CBP said it will issue an update when this issue is resolved.

For U.S. shippers and the supply chain, it's the latest blow at a time of uncertainty and fear about tariffs policy. It also raises questions about Customs ability to handle the new policy and collect the tariffs revenue that is key to Trump administration economic goals.

Interpretations of the multiple executive orders, social media posts, and customs alerts have some U.S. companies and industry groups trying to figure out when the new tariffs will be deployed.

"There has been some confusion on what President Trump has said in social media posts on when the tariff starts and what is written in the executive order," said Jarred Varanelli, vice president of US sales at logistics firm Savino Del Bene. "Social media posts are not law on the pause and increase in tariffs. With the constant changes to the regulations, all customs brokers in our industry have a difficult task ahead of them."

Despite President Trump saying numerous times tariffs are in effect and being collected, U.S. shippers tell CNBC they have not been charged higher tariff rates on their containers, some of which came in as late as yesterday.

Dewardric McNeal, managing director and senior policy analyst at Longview Global with a focus on international trade, foreign affairs and defense, tells CNBC glitches do happen, but the timing is unfortunate and will lead to more questions about Customs' ability to keep up with the pace of the tariffs.

"Whether you agree or disagree with the policy, you have to ask, do we have the ability to do it this rapidly?" said McNeal. "This glitch may be an indication we need more time. It seems odd this is the time it happens. This adds policy chaos for the implementer."

To keep the freight moving, Customs is telling firms to pay the duties and tariffs within ten days of the cargo's release to Customs, by which time it expects the glitch should be fixed.

"It's a mess, to simply state it," said McNeal. "I don't think it will slow down goods. But it will increase the paperwork for the U.S. companies who are suffering tariff whiplash. These companies will need to refile that at a later date. Trade will flow but at greater complexity."

The U.S. is currently at work on negotiations with over 75 countries on tariffs deals that Trump has said will be tailored to each nation.

The uncertainty at Customs entry points come within the context of much greater business anxiety.

Rick Woldenberg, CEO of Learning Resources, a three-generation educational toy company which makes its products in China, said this year it was scheduled to expand with the construction of a new building, but now he is pausing expansion and reviewing his company's financials to see where cuts can be made.

"I cannot run my business based on social media posts," said Woldenberg. "This is making it difficult for me to make my business decisions. Instead of planning on growth, I'm talking about surviving. This trade policy can kill me and hundreds of small businesses like me. This will eliminate jobs. The banking industry and insurance industry that serve businesses both large and small will be impacted if companies go bankrupt."

Woldenberg expects massive disruption. "The interconnectedness of all of this is not well understood. This policy was crafted with little interest in the details. It's these details that will drive business and the economy down the toilet."
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

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grumbler

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Quote from: viper37 on April 11, 2025, 09:30:40 AMUS fires Greenland military base chief for 'undermining' Vance

From the guy lecturing Europeans on free speech.


Well, tbf I'm of the opinion that members of the military should enjoy the same freedom of speech as in Soviet Russia. Even if the VP is a cretin.

I understand that the base chief has to manage the relationship with the locals once Vance came and left his turd, but she'd been smarter than that.
The VP isn't the commander in chief.  He isn't part of the chain of command.
https://thegunzone.com/is-the-vice-president-in-the-military-chain-of-command/

He is a nobody.

Had it been SecDef, I would have agreed with your point.


Grumbler, or others will set me straight if I am wrong, but it seems to me the VP is a somebody for the US military.  A quick google search found article 88

QuoteAny commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall ...

The VP is not a member of the national military chain of command (and neither is any member of the administration bar the SecDef), but any base commander that announces that US policy is not representative of the base's policy is going to lose their job ten times out of ten.
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grumbler

The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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Richard Hakluyt

When they say that the base commander was "fired", does it mean cashiered from the army or simply sent to some boring post somewhere?

viper37

Quote from: Bauer on April 11, 2025, 01:00:00 PMAnd in exchange Danes satisfy their ancestral urge to sustain habitation in places unsuitable for human life.
I am not aware of many Danes living on Baffin island. :P
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viper37

Mortgage rates surge over 7% as tariffs hit bond market

Valmy was asking what it meant for the bond market spikes this week.
Minsky gave an accurate description of what life in the US could look like.

Now, let's see how the cult reacts.
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If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Legbiter

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on April 11, 2025, 02:49:40 PMWhen they say that the base commander was "fired", does it mean cashiered from the army or simply sent to some boring post somewhere?


Here's direct from the Danish chairman of Denmark's defense committee on what transpired.

QuoteI am sad to hear that Colonel Susan Meyers has been fired as the commander of the American Pituffik (Thule) Space Base in Greenland.

As chairman of Denmark's defense committee, I arranged a trip to Pituffik in August and we had the pleasure of Colonel Meyers' company. She is a very nice person.

JD Vance went to Pituffik to tell people that Denmark is doing a bad job and is a bad ally. There are approximately 150 Americans at Pituffik and 200 Danes and Greenlanders. I am not sure if Vance knew that he has was talking to more Danes than Americans when he made his remarks, but obviously remarks like that are not great for the crucial cooperation between Danes and Americans at the base.

Colonel Meyers seems to have tried to smooth it out by writing an email to her subordinates saying
she "spent the weekend thinking about Friday's visit -- the actions taken, the words spoken, and how it must have affected each of you."  "I do not presume to understand current politics, but what I do know is the concerns of the U.S. administration discussed by Vice President Vance on Friday are not reflective of Pituffik Space Base" 

"I commit that, for as long as I am lucky enough to lead this base, all of our flags will fly proudly -- together".

Now this very popular base commander has been fired and I suppose we will get a new commanders who does not respect Denmark because that is apparently a requirement for having the job.

Thank you, Colonel Meyers. We have appreciated our cooperation very much.


https://x.com/RasmusJarlov/status/1910745358625276218

Greenlanders ought to send her a bouquet or something.
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Valmy

Quote from: viper37 on April 11, 2025, 03:20:15 PMMortgage rates surge over 7% as tariffs hit bond market

Valmy was asking what it meant for the bond market spikes this week.
Minsky gave an accurate description of what life in the US could look like.

Now, let's see how the cult reacts.

They have been told everything is great now, Trump cancelled the tariffs and everything is great. His approval rating is coming back up.

But frankly he could start the next great depression and the reaction would be "ONLY TRUMP CAN SAVE US"

Meanwhile I guess the top priority of this administration is to make sure this completely innocent Marylander rots in El Salvador indefinitely.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Bauer

Quote from: Legbiter on April 11, 2025, 02:09:17 PM
Quote from: Bauer on April 11, 2025, 01:00:00 PMAnd in exchange Danes satisfy their ancestral urge to sustain habitation in places unsuitable for human life.

Well it could be worse, at least it's not Canada.  ;)

Well they did try to move in to Hans island awhile back as I recall...   ;)

Tonitrus

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on April 11, 2025, 02:49:40 PMWhen they say that the base commander was "fired", does it mean cashiered from the army or simply sent to some boring post somewhere?


Typically the latter...and as a full-bird Colonel, she almost certainly has her 20 years and would be able to retire.

Grey Fox

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Razgovory

Quote from: Tonitrus on April 11, 2025, 06:39:10 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on April 11, 2025, 02:49:40 PMWhen they say that the base commander was "fired", does it mean cashiered from the army or simply sent to some boring post somewhere?


Typically the latter...and as a full-bird Colonel, she almost certainly has her 20 years and would be able to retire.
Greenland is the worst peace time posting we have.  Where else can they send her?
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