File this under "B", for "Boo Fucking Hoo"

[Berkut]

One particular young woman making a bad decision? That is no evidence of a problem at all.

It's clearly a problem for her. Potentially it's one where the best way to address may not be to tell her "suck it up, don't be stupid".

It may not be indicative of a systemic problem, that's true.

It is also one where the best way to address it may not be to tell her "You're right, those people at Columbia are assholes and the teachers should have been nicer to you! I understand why you needed to bail out like that. And you would be an AWESOME STRIPPER!!!!".

[mongers]

I'll wager one thing is for sure, it's was better to have this sort of 'meltdown' in a pre-connected online media world than it is today; I'd imagine the level of coverage can't be helping her situation/well-being.

[Jacob]

It is also one where the best way to address it may not be to tell her "You're right, those people at Columbia are assholes and the teachers should have been nicer to you! I understand why you needed to bail out like that. And you would be an AWESOME STRIPPER!!!!".

Agreed.

[garbon]

One particular young woman making a bad decision? That is no evidence of a problem at all.

It's clearly a problem for her. Potentially it's one where the best way to address may not be to tell her "suck it up, don't be stupid".

It may not be indicative of a systemic problem, that's true.

It is also one where the best way to address it may not be to tell her "You're right, those people at Columbia are assholes and the teachers should have been nicer to you! I understand why you needed to bail out like that. And you would be an AWESOME STRIPPER!!!!".

Who is advocating that someone should tell her that?

edit: Oh I see that's what she said her mother said to her.

[Berkut]

No kidding. I know I would hate for all my mistakes to be so public

[mongers]

One particular young woman making a bad decision? That is no evidence of a problem at all.

It's clearly a problem for her. Potentially it's one where the best way to address may not be to tell her "suck it up, don't be stupid".

It may not be indicative of a systemic problem, that's true.

It is also one where the best way to address it may not be to tell her "You're right, those people at Columbia are assholes and the teachers should have been nicer to you! I understand why you needed to bail out like that. And you would be an AWESOME STRIPPER!!!!".

Who is advocating that someone should tell her that?

Was it in the news item, as I didn't read that, nor did I look at pictures of here, so perhaps there or possibly someone in this thread introduced the 'concept' to the discussion, this is Languish after all.

[garbon]

One particular young woman making a bad decision? That is no evidence of a problem at all.

It's clearly a problem for her. Potentially it's one where the best way to address may not be to tell her "suck it up, don't be stupid".

It may not be indicative of a systemic problem, that's true.

It is also one where the best way to address it may not be to tell her "You're right, those people at Columbia are assholes and the teachers should have been nicer to you! I understand why you needed to bail out like that. And you would be an AWESOME STRIPPER!!!!".

Who is advocating that someone should tell her that?

Was it in the news item, as I didn't read that, nor did I look at pictures of here, so perhaps there or possibly someone in this thread introduced the 'concept' to the discussion, this is Languish after all.

Fixed my post as apparently her mother said it.

Also, I'm not sure the girl is against the attention. After all, she did write the op-ed about herself.

http://nypost.com/2016/05/29/why-i-had-to-escape-my-ivy-league-life-and-disappear/

[mongers]

One particular young woman making a bad decision? That is no evidence of a problem at all.

It's clearly a problem for her. Potentially it's one where the best way to address may not be to tell her "suck it up, don't be stupid".

It may not be indicative of a systemic problem, that's true.

It is also one where the best way to address it may not be to tell her "You're right, those people at Columbia are assholes and the teachers should have been nicer to you! I understand why you needed to bail out like that. And you would be an AWESOME STRIPPER!!!!".

Who is advocating that someone should tell her that?

Was it in the news item, as I didn't read that, nor did I look at pictures of here, so perhaps there or possibly someone in this thread introduced the 'concept' to the discussion, this is Languish after all.

Fixed my post as apparently her mother said it.

Also, I'm not sure the girl is against the attention. After all, she did write the op-ed about herself.

http://nypost.com/2016/05/29/why-i-had-to-escape-my-ivy-league-life-and-disappear/

Oh thanks for that.

So maybe she's getting more level headed and trying to make the best of her situation*?




* I'd hate to think this was a 'set-up' and skilful attempt to translate her life into a media presence?

[Razgovory]

I have no problem with being burned out, this is an important step in growing up. The irresponsible disappearing act was a really selfish and shitty thing to do though.

Here's the thing, after you burnout and become seriously depressed you aren't thinking rationally.  You just want to hide.  Sometimes you want to kill yourself.  It's not a good place to be.

[mongers]

I have no problem with being burned out, this is an important step in growing up. The irresponsible disappearing act was a really selfish and shitty thing to do though.

Here's the thing, after you burnout and become seriously depressed you aren't thinking rationally.  You just want to hide.  Sometimes you want to kill yourself.  It's not a good place to be.

Yeah, I think a few here, not necessarily Valmy, aren't getting that point.

[derspiess]

* I'd hate to think this was a 'set-up' and skilful attempt to translate her life into a media presence?

You mean fabricate some personal crisis in order to get attention & sympathy for yourself?  Nobody at Columbia would ever do that.

[derspiess]

Read that op-ed and, hoo-boy. 

I had always fantasized about living in New York, but the first day I moved it was also my birthday. I felt really alienated and alone and didn't find the Columbia students very welcoming.

School just wasn't interesting to me anymore because I didn't have any close connections with my teachers.

I came from a small, tight-knit community at Thacher, and at ­Columbia I was lucky if a teacher talked to me. I'm a social learner and Columbia didn't provide me that opportunity.

So it's all the fault of the Columbia student body for not being welcoming enough, and the faculty's fault for not coddling her as a "social learner".

Doesn't seem like she feels responsible for any of it.

[sbr]

Reasons aren't always excuses

[Jacob]

So it's all the fault of the Columbia student body for not being welcoming enough, and the faculty's fault for not coddling her as a "social learner".

Doesn't seem like she feels responsible for any of it.

You sure seem fixated on placing blame.

[mongers]

So it's all the fault of the Columbia student body for not being welcoming enough, and the faculty's fault for not coddling her as a "social learner".

Doesn't seem like she feels responsible for any of it.

You sure seem fixated on placing blame.

It's what some families* do best.




* Languish could be a posterchild of this.