Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[Tamas]

What a twat.

May is out before end of July. I am calling it.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Next step is for the rebels to get 48 Tory MPs' signatures, send them to the 1922 committee and get a vote of no confidence (by the parliamentary Tory party) in May's leadership.

[Tamas]

Will they want to do it before or after the WC final?

I am wondering if they feel the distraction is good or bad for them.

[Richard Hakluyt]

The new Brexit person is Dominic Raab; a leaver it would appear :

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44763998

What with that and Gove's support for May, it looks like the brexit faction is split between ultras and pragmatists; so May continues as PM. You know, if she was a cat or a dog we would have put her out of her misery some time ago.

[The Larch]

There appears to be no love lost for Davis amongst the EU's diplomats, as it seems that he was not really involved in the negotiations anymore.

The former Brexit secretary had only attended four hours of talks since the start of the year, and at one point went three months without meeting the EU's chief negotiator Michel Barnier in Brussels.

It's so bizarre that the main stumbling bloc for an UK-EU agreement seems to be the internal division of the UK government...

[Tamas]

There appears to be no love lost for Davis amongst the EU's diplomats, as it seems that he was not really involved in the negotiations anymore.

The former Brexit secretary had only attended four hours of talks since the start of the year, and at one point went three months without meeting the EU's chief negotiator Michel Barnier in Brussels.

It's so bizarre that the main stumbling bloc for an UK-EU agreement seems to be the internal division of the UK government...

As the guys have been pointing it out here, the entire reason for Brexit ever happening is the Tory division over Europe. They rather risked breaking the country than breaking their party, so now they'll break both.

[The Larch]

There appears to be no love lost for Davis amongst the EU's diplomats, as it seems that he was not really involved in the negotiations anymore.

The former Brexit secretary had only attended four hours of talks since the start of the year, and at one point went three months without meeting the EU's chief negotiator Michel Barnier in Brussels.

It's so bizarre that the main stumbling bloc for an UK-EU agreement seems to be the internal division of the UK government...

As the guys have been pointing it out here, the entire reason for Brexit ever happening is the Tory division over Europe. They rather risked breaking the country than breaking their party, so now they'll break both.

I'm perfectly aware of that, I'm just flabbergasted that it has dragged on for so long, and at how brazen (hi B!) they seem to be at sabotaging each other inside the cabinet, with the destiny of the country on the line. It's like playing office politics while the building is on fire.

[Tamas]

Yeah. They are a really nasty political party. This new Brexit guy with his American Psycho vibe looks right up the alley of the whole thing.

[The Larch]

Boris Johnson has resigned as well.

[Syt]

[Richard Hakluyt]

Saw a great comment in the Daily Mail :

"David Davies - there's a name we'll never forget"

[Tamas]

I guess Boris had to make sure he remains the prominent member of the Leaver team. Can't be out-martyred by Davis!

[mongers]

There appears to be no love lost for Davis amongst the EU's diplomats, as it seems that he was not really involved in the negotiations anymore.

The former Brexit secretary had only attended four hours of talks since the start of the year, and at one point went three months without meeting the EU's chief negotiator Michel Barnier in Brussels.

It's so bizarre that the main stumbling bloc for an UK-EU agreement seems to be the internal division of the UK government...

As the guys have been pointing it out here, the entire reason for Brexit ever happening is the Tory division over Europe. They rather risked breaking the country than breaking their party, so now they'll break both.

I'm perfectly aware of that, I'm just flabbergasted that it has dragged on for so long, and at how brazen (hi B!) they seem to be at sabotaging each other inside the cabinet, with the destiny of the country on the line. It's like playing office politics while the building is on fire.

Yes it's truly pathetic;

Their political careers and party politics above country and future generations.

[The Larch]

To add insult to injury, apparently Boris resigned right before a summit in London between the EU and the Western Balkans countries in which he was supposed to host and no-showed. The delegations were still waiting for him when the announcement was made.

[celedhring]

May feeling like Lafayette in 1791, except that the Montagnards are the ones fleeing to Varennes.