Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[Grey Fox]

btw not a Marmite fan.

I like sugar on my breakfast, thank you very much.

[Syt]

[HVC]

[Zanza]

Under the proposals from the London Chamber of Commerce and Industry, businesses in the UK capital would be able to sponsor skilled workers with a job offer for a visa.

[...]

Recipients would have London-specific national insurance numbers that would prevent them from working elsewhere. If they left or lost their job, they would have 60 days to find another one before being deported. Businesses would have to prove they could not recruit locally unless the post was on a London-specific list of skills shortages.

https://www.ft.com/content/e2cd9232-a683-11e6-8b69-02899e8bd9d1

Maybe it's just me, but that seems a very poor, unattractive substitute for what rights EU citizens currently have in the UK...

[The Brain]

That's the idea of Brexit.

[Josquius]

True

Under the proposals from the London Chamber of Commerce and Industry, businesses in the UK capital would be able to sponsor skilled workers with a job offer for a visa.

[...]

Recipients would have London-specific national insurance numbers that would prevent them from working elsewhere. If they left or lost their job, they would have 60 days to find another one before being deported. Businesses would have to prove they could not recruit locally unless the post was on a London-specific list of skills shortages.

https://www.ft.com/content/e2cd9232-a683-11e6-8b69-02899e8bd9d1

Maybe it's just me, but that seems a very poor, unattractive substitute for what rights EU citizens currently have in the UK...

Interesting to see it being seriously talked about. I suggested this well before the ref, though it was thinking more about Scotland.
It makes sense. gives the areas that want migrants the chance to have them and shows the knuckle draggers in places migrants don't want to go that they aren't going there.

Certainly in Switzerland registration happens on a canton level.

[Richard Hakluyt]

It doesn't make sense at all, unless the proposal is that any area can also put in a bid for foreign workers if they want. The universities up north, for example, are pretty pissed off and worried that they won't be able to retain and recruit the foreigners that contribute so much to university life.

Edit : not a personal concern of mine, but I guess the premier league will also expect exemptions, it can hardly maintain its status as a top league without the foreign talent. Bad news for the Manchester teams if they can't recruit foreigners and the London teams can 

[Tamas]

What a fabulous proposal! Who would risk losing their job when they only hav 60 days to find a new one or see their newly built London life disintegrate? They will put up with any shit from their employers.

[Richard Hakluyt]

I don't think that it is possible to square this circle. We can reduce immigration by fucking the economy. If the economy continues to do well then there will continue to be lots of immigration. Passing petty laws will merely cause unpleasantness and irritation.

[Valmy]

We can reduce immigration by fucking the economy.

Sometimes the only way to save a village is to destroy it.

[citizen k]

We can reduce immigration by fucking the economy.

Sometimes the only way to save a village is to destroy it.

Just takes one child to raze a village.

[derspiess]

Child please.

[Josquius]

It doesn't make sense at all, unless the proposal is that any area can also put in a bid for foreign workers if they want. The universities up north, for example, are pretty pissed off and worried that they won't be able to retain and recruit the foreigners that contribute so much to university life.

Edit : not a personal concern of mine, but I guess the premier league will also expect exemptions, it can hardly maintain its status as a top league without the foreign talent. Bad news for the Manchester teams if they can't recruit foreigners and the London teams can 

Yes, it would be best if all regions had the right to. But I don't think London having the right to bring in people above the standard immigration quotas (now there is the stupid idea) would be the end of the world.
Though it will certainly do wonders for encouraging even more of the economy to cram into London

I recently bought the new Football Manager game. It will be curious to see how badly brexit fucks things up for me in a few game years.

[garbon]

From guardian comment section:

Imagine if back in in early 2015 someone had said that by the end of 2016 Prime Minister Theresa May would be looking to do a post-brexit trade deal with President Donald Trump aided by Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage, while the Ex-Shadow Chancellor is doing Gangnam Style on national television.

[The Minsky Moment]

The good news for the UK is that the weak post-Brexit economy means the amount set as their budget contribution for 2017 is going down.

The bad news is that the amount is set in Euros and the collapse of the pound means that the UK contributions will be increasing in sterling terms.

Brexit is truly the gift that keeps on taking.