Facebook Follies of Friends and Families

[Valmy]

What if there were a right wing meme too retarded even for Syt's sisters to post?

I may have found one or two, but I'm not posting them

You are a good and merciful man.

[Valmy]

That said, I think this is a question in which women should have a major say, not old men.

I never understood that argument from the logical perspective.  Being an interested party shouldn't entitle you to have a greater say in making laws.  Often it's actually a bad thing when interested parties decide on laws that affect them.

There are few other situations where the law would require somebody to go on a nine month intense physical process which could do serious damage to their career prospects.

And then there would be problem of throwing tens of thousands more children into the all the ready underfunded and overloaded child welfare system every year.

Which is why I think an attempt to eliminate abortion needs to be accompanied with a big birth control research push along with more funds for child welfare.

[derspiess]

What if there were a right wing meme too retarded even for Syt's sisters to post?

I may have found one or two, but I'm not posting them

You are a good and merciful man.

After those Poll Cats, I figured I owed it to you guys.

[The Brain]

That said, I think this is a question in which women should have a major say, not old men.

I never understood that argument from the logical perspective.  Being an interested party shouldn't entitle you to have a greater say in making laws.  Often it's actually a bad thing when interested parties decide on laws that affect them.

There are few other situations where the law would require somebody to go on a nine month intense physical process which could do serious damage to their career prospects.

It would have seemed weird to me if military service (back in my day) had been decided on by men but not women.

[Valmy]

It would have seemed weird to me if military service (back in my day) had been decided on by men but not women.

Ah but they provided ways to get out of military service.

[The Brain]

It would have seemed weird to me if military service (back in my day) had been decided on by men but not women.

Ah but they provided ways to get out of military service.

Now you seem to be talking about results and no longer about who's making the decisions.

[Valmy]

It would have seemed weird to me if military service (back in my day) had been decided on by men but not women.

Ah but they provided ways to get out of military service.

Now you seem to be talking about results and no longer about who's making the decisions.

I thought I started out by talking about results.

[The Brain]

It would have seemed weird to me if military service (back in my day) had been decided on by men but not women.

Ah but they provided ways to get out of military service.

Now you seem to be talking about results and no longer about who's making the decisions.

I thought I started out by talking about results.

I don't see it.

[Valmy]

Well look I concede that if compulsory military service was brought back and only affected men then a case could be made that women shouldn't be the ones deciding that using similar logic.

So I guess that is one of those few other situations.

[garbon]

If that's the case though, should rich politicians not be in charge of deciding what happens to the poor?

[The Brain]

Well look I concede that if compulsory military service was brought back and only affected men then a case could be made that women shouldn't be the ones deciding that using similar logic.

So I guess that is one of those few other situations.

And I disagree with that case of course. I don't think identity politics is the answer.

[Valmy]

I got that you do 

[Valmy]

If that's the case though, should rich politicians not be in charge of deciding what happens to the poor?

A special meeting of the poor politicians will decide what happens to them. It might be sparsely attended.

[crazy canuck]

Well look I concede that if compulsory military service was brought back and only affected men then a case could be made that women shouldn't be the ones deciding that using similar logic.

So I guess that is one of those few other situations.

And I disagree with that case of course. I don't think identity politics is the answer.

Yeah, I am not sure what world Valmy inhabits that he thinks a case could be made in that scenario.

Valmy's view appears to be an odd distortion of "no taxation without representation".  That does not mean that the people who do not pay taxes should not be allowed vote.  It just means that people who pay taxes should also be allowed to vote.  His is a basic misunderstanding of liberal democratic values.  But I suppose, given the extent to which those values are being eroded in the US, one can understand his confusion.

[garbon]

Well look I concede that if compulsory military service was brought back and only affected men then a case could be made that women shouldn't be the ones deciding that using similar logic.

So I guess that is one of those few other situations.

And I disagree with that case of course. I don't think identity politics is the answer.

Yeah, I am not sure what world Valmy inhabits that he thinks a case could be made in that scenario.

Valmy's view appears to be an odd distortion of "no taxation without representation".  That does not mean that the people who do not pay taxes should not be allowed vote.  It just means that people who pay taxes should also be allowed to vote.  His is a basic misunderstanding of liberal democratic values.  But I suppose, given the extent to which those values are being eroded in the US, one can understand his confusion.

Wow, what a dick.