Mass shooting in San Bernadino

[Berkut]

One very good reason for excluding suicides from the gun fatality totals is there are no innocent victims of suicide.

If we assumed that it even reasonably true, that would be a good reason to exclude suicides from gun fatality totals involving innocent victims.

It would be stupid to exclude them from "gun fatality totals" though. In fact, it would be downright deceitful to do so.

[derspiess]

FBI is investigating the case as terrorism.

[Valmy]

FBI is investigating the case as terrorism.

If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, etc...

[mongers]

FBI is investigating the case as terrorism.

If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, etc...

.. The FBI will take it to be a duck-billed platypus?

[Valmy]

FBI is investigating the case as terrorism.

If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, etc...

.. The FBI will take it to be a duck-billed platypus?

I was going to say it is a sheep so the Welsh will want to have sex with it. But that is more relevant.

[CountDeMoney]

FBI is investigating the case as terrorism.

One would hope they had never stopped.  But this is the FBI we're talking about.

"You asked for miracles, Theo?  I give you the F.B.I."

[CountDeMoney]

If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, etc...

.. The FBI will take it to be a duck-billed platypus?

...And then charge the platypus, keep the platypus's mother's Tupperware, set its compound on fire--and in response, Congress will cut the ATF's budget.

[Eddie Teach]

I was going to say it is a sheep so the Welsh will want to have sex with it. But that is more relevant.

The second Welsh sheep-shagging dig I've seen from you today. Why is that? Are you mad they canceled Bastard Executioner? 

[mongers]

If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, etc...

.. The FBI will take it to be a duck-billed platypus?

...And then charge the platypus, keep the platypus's mother's Tupperware, set its compound on fire--and in response, Congress will cut the ATF's budget.

Money have you seen this documentary about an FBI undercover informant/sting operation?

http://terrordocumentary.org/

[Syt]

Ah, my sister finally joined the discussion:




Well, that's probably because in Paris it's a once in a decade event, and in the U.S. it's "Wednesday." 


Sorry for constantly bringing their posts here, but I need this place to vent.

[Valmy]

Yeah the pointing out that gun laws do not reduce gun violence and every new attack only further proves this has been splattered all over my facebook as well. Zuckerberg really is worse than CarnegieHitler.

I do like how not only is gun control wrong but YOU ARE CAUSING MORE ATTACKS BY BEING FOR IT...somehow.

The false equivalency with the French Flag thing is new though. Man I think I literally would be a millionaire if I had a nickle for every false equivalency meme.

[Syt]

I should mention that my sister also changed her FB picture to a US flag.

[Valmy]

I should mention that my sister also changed her FB picture to a US flag.

Converts are always the worst.

If any of your friends are thinking of moving to America you need to show them what living here will do to Euros after awhile.

[mongers]

....
Sorry for constantly bringing their posts here, but I need this place to vent.

It's not just you, I think we could do with a internet meme/social media venting mega thread; something along the lines. "Stupid shit my family/friends post, so I'll Rolleyes about it here, because I can't rip into them elsewhere"

[alfred russel]

Awesome.

In other news...someone did some counting and is claiming that gun violence since 1968 has killed more Americans than all our wars put together since the American Revolution.

I don't think most people even really understand the incredible scale of carnage that we experience in this country from guns. 33,000 deaths per year. That is as many as are killed in car crashes.

I think the number just kind of blanks out for most Americans - it might as well be 3,000 or 300,000 or 33.

But no matter. We must protect our RAHTS! The ones we invented a couple decades ago.

Those numbers are probably less than auto related deaths, and way less than cancer or heart disease. In the end we just haven't had very many people killed in wars.

I don't own a gun, have no use ever owning a gun, and at the same time my risk of death from gun violence is basically nil. People who aren't involved in crime, aren't going to commit suicide, aren't in a violently abusive relationship, and are rarely around guns have a very low risk of dying through gun violence. The mass shootings get  publicity and discussion precisely because they confront people like me with the prospect of our own violent death. It doesn't change how incredibly unlikely it is.