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Started by Syt, December 02, 2015, 02:59:42 PM

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The Brain

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Malthus

Quote from: The Brain on December 04, 2015, 01:50:56 PM
RIP Hitler. :(

Well, however bad a guy he was, he can't have been all bad - after all, he did kill Hitler.  ;)
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The Brain

Quote from: Malthus on December 04, 2015, 01:53:07 PM
Quote from: The Brain on December 04, 2015, 01:50:56 PM
RIP Hitler. :(

Well, however bad a guy he was, he can't have been all bad - after all, he did kill Hitler.  ;)

Did they ever save his brain btw?
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Berkut

Good point M.

How many millions just talked about it, or even a few who feebly tried and failed?
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grumbler

Quote from: Berkut on December 04, 2015, 01:46:14 PM
I actually do not think that suicide is in itself necessarily bad.

I do think that the vast majority of people who commit suicide do so for "bad" reasons, and as a society we should in fact takes reasonable steps to avoid most of them.

So you want "society" to enforce your own personal opinions on suicide?  How does "society" do that?
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grumbler

Quote from: Malthus on December 04, 2015, 01:53:07 PM
Quote from: The Brain on December 04, 2015, 01:50:56 PM
RIP Hitler. :(

Well, however bad a guy he was, he can't have been all bad - after all, he did kill Hitler.  ;)
:lol:  It's almost odd that i didn't think of that quip nor have I read it.
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Grey Fox

Quote from: grumbler on December 04, 2015, 02:00:34 PM
Quote from: Berkut on December 04, 2015, 01:46:14 PM
I actually do not think that suicide is in itself necessarily bad.

I do think that the vast majority of people who commit suicide do so for "bad" reasons, and as a society we should in fact takes reasonable steps to avoid most of them.

So you want "society" to enforce your own personal opinions on suicide?  How does "society" do that?

:hmm:
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Ed Anger

When the press was crowded into the perp's apartment today and acting like jackels, I was sorta hoping the FBI missed a bomb in there.

Just me? Okay.
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Berkut

Quote from: Grey Fox on December 04, 2015, 02:25:09 PM
Quote from: grumbler on December 04, 2015, 02:00:34 PM
Quote from: Berkut on December 04, 2015, 01:46:14 PM
I actually do not think that suicide is in itself necessarily bad.

I do think that the vast majority of people who commit suicide do so for "bad" reasons, and as a society we should in fact takes reasonable steps to avoid most of them.

So you want "society" to enforce your own personal opinions on suicide?  How does "society" do that?

:hmm:

Yeah, that was about the extent of my response as well...
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grumbler

Quote from: Berkut on December 04, 2015, 02:34:27 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 04, 2015, 02:25:09 PM
:hmm:

Yeah, that was about the extent of my response as well...

That's almost exactly what I suspected.  People claim that they are for liberty, but in reality they are for controlling what other people actually do when those other people do "bad" things.
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Admiral Yi

One very good reason for excluding suicides from the gun fatality totals is there are no innocent victims of suicide.

Berkut

Quote from: grumbler on December 04, 2015, 02:38:41 PM
Quote from: Berkut on December 04, 2015, 02:34:27 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 04, 2015, 02:25:09 PM
:hmm:

Yeah, that was about the extent of my response as well...

That's almost exactly what I suspected.  People claim that they are for liberty, but in reality they are for controlling what other people actually do when those other people do "bad" things.

Uh huh.
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Liep

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 04, 2015, 02:39:42 PM
One very good reason for excluding suicides from the gun fatality totals is there are no innocent victims of suicide.

Perhaps not fatalities but there sure as hell can be victims.
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DGuller

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 04, 2015, 02:39:42 PM
One very good reason for excluding suicides from the gun fatality totals is there are no innocent victims of suicide.
:hmm:

Liep

Quote from: DGuller on December 04, 2015, 02:47:47 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 04, 2015, 02:39:42 PM
One very good reason for excluding suicides from the gun fatality totals is there are no innocent victims of suicide.
:hmm:

Yeah, I'm just gonna second this, ignore my previous post.
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