Do you attend religious services?

[katmai]

Every Saturday and Sunday from Aug through January.

[celedhring]

Yes, and yes.

I even teach Sunday School to Middle Schoolers.

Now that is fucked up.

The peer pressure for attending Sunday School when I was a kid was truly obnoxious (me and brother didn't attend, but most of our friends did), and probably a contributor for my general distaste of religion when I grew up. God (pun intended) has this country changed for good.

[Martinus]

As some of you know I have mellowed out greatly about religion lately and generally think that people who get something good out of religion should not be discouraged from worship and living according with its tenets - as long as they do not try to impose their religious commandments on others.

But "teaching" religion to kids is where I draw the line - like sex and drugs, religion should be something that is done between consenting adults.

[Legbiter]

As some of you know I have mellowed out greatly about religion lately and generally think that people who get something good out of religion should not be discouraged from worship and living according with its tenets - as long as they do not try to impose their religious commandments on others.

Congratulations on your 17th birthday Marti.

[Razgovory]

Really, we should refrain from teaching children anything.

[Martinus]

Really, we should refrain from teaching children anything.

I am not sure about it. But we could at least refrain from teaching them lies.

[Razgovory]

Really, we should refrain from teaching children anything.

I am not sure about it. But we could at least refrain from teaching them lies.

That really depends on what you believe doesn't it?

[DGuller]

As some of you know I have mellowed out greatly about religion lately and generally think that people who get something good out of religion should not be discouraged from worship and living according with its tenets - as long as they do not try to impose their religious commandments on others.

But "teaching" religion to kids is where I draw the line - like sex and drugs, religion should be something that is done between consenting adults.

Have you ever met someone who found religion in adult life?  I think society is better off with 10 religious people who were brainwashed in childhood than with 9 critically-thinking atheists and a neophyte.

[Martinus]

Really, we should refrain from teaching children anything.

I am not sure about it. But we could at least refrain from teaching them lies.

That really depends on what you believe doesn't it?

Yes. Which is why we should probably teach only facts to children, instead of things that are not proven and vary based on a personal belief, shouldn't we?

[DGuller]

Really, we should refrain from teaching children anything.

I am not sure about it. But we could at least refrain from teaching them lies.

That really depends on what you believe doesn't it?

I think it depends on more on your tolerance for saying things that 80%+ of your fellow citizens will not like hearing.

[Valmy]

But "teaching" religion to kids is where I draw the line - like sex and drugs, religion should be something that is done between consenting adults.

Well doing anything with children is going to get you labelled Hitler by somebody.

[Martinus]

As some of you know I have mellowed out greatly about religion lately and generally think that people who get something good out of religion should not be discouraged from worship and living according with its tenets - as long as they do not try to impose their religious commandments on others.

But "teaching" religion to kids is where I draw the line - like sex and drugs, religion should be something that is done between consenting adults.

Have you ever met someone who found religion in adult life?  I think society is better off with 10 religious people who were brainwashed in childhood than with 9 critically-thinking atheists and a neophyte.

I disagree. Besides, it rather depends on the religion they find. Adult-life buddhists are quite agreeable.

[Valmy]

Yes. Which is why we should probably teach only facts to children, instead of things that are not proven and vary based on a personal belief, shouldn't we?

This is why I hate public school boards. This would lead to hours of furious accusations about who has the facts and who is evil.

[Valmy]

I disagree. Besides, it rather depends on the religion they find. Adult-life buddhists are quite agreeable.

But those raised Buddhists are evil?

The newly converted are actually typically the fanatics.

[Martinus]

But "teaching" religion to kids is where I draw the line - like sex and drugs, religion should be something that is done between consenting adults.

Well doing anything with children is going to get you labelled Hitler by somebody.

Perhaps. But we probably can agree that teaching children how to swim will probably get you labelled Hitler by fewer people than, say, raping them, right?