The Dutch continue to be ridiculously racist and in denial about it

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Martinus

#150
August 17, 2015, 04:02:58 AM
Besides, if you consider the survey to be credible, the trends become much more visible if you look at regional averages:

The Americas - 19%
Western Europe - 24%
Eastern Europe - 34%
Middle East and North Africa - 74%
Sub-Saharan Africa - 23%
Asia - 22%
Oceania - 12%

Hint: one of these regions is inhabited predominantly by Muslims.

Martinus

#151
August 17, 2015, 04:06:28 AM
But, as I said, I am not sure the survey is really that credible. For example, for Poland the 2014 number is 45%, but in 2015 it is down to 37%. This is too much of a drop to be explained away by a popular attitude shift, so it seems the margin of error for these results is quite big.

Eddie Teach

#152
August 17, 2015, 04:18:37 AM
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Antisemitism

QuoteIn 2009, however, "white" attacks [in the UK] dropped to 48% and "Asian" or "Arab" attacks jumped to 43%.

During the month of January 2009, in the midst of Operation Cast Lead, "Asian" and "Arab" attackers accounted for fully 54% of incidents, although the Muslim community numbers just 4% of the general population.[2]

So Tyr is "right" in the sense that Muslims were responsible for the majority of attacks(which nobody really disputed) but wrong in the implication that attacks by non-Muslims were negligible.
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Martinus

#153
August 17, 2015, 04:28:14 AM
Would be interesting to see how this splits in violent attacks - I believe UK has a very broad definition of an attack (it would include things that would be covered by free speech in the US) so it may be misleading to think of these as violence.

grumbler

#154
August 17, 2015, 08:02:33 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 17, 2015, 04:18:37 AM
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Antisemitism

QuoteIn 2009, however, "white" attacks [in the UK] dropped to 48% and "Asian" or "Arab" attacks jumped to 43%.

During the month of January 2009, in the midst of Operation Cast Lead, "Asian" and "Arab" attackers accounted for fully 54% of incidents, although the Muslim community numbers just 4% of the general population.[2]

So Tyr is "right" in the sense that Muslims were responsible for the majority of attacks(which nobody really disputed) but wrong in the implication that attacks by non-Muslims were negligible.

My money says that Tyr and Marti will now trim their sails to argue that this is what Tyr said all along.
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Norgy

#155
August 17, 2015, 08:06:33 AM
I find it incredibly funny that Tony Abott's Australia is waging a war on "illegal immigration".
I hope he gets eaten by a dingo.

derspiess

#156
August 17, 2015, 08:21:10 AM
Quote from: Norgy on August 17, 2015, 08:06:33 AM
I find it incredibly funny that Tony Abott's Australia is waging a war on "illegal immigration".

Why?
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Valmy

#157
August 17, 2015, 08:26:02 AM
Because Australia is supposed to be a welcoming place for criminals.  :P
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Archy

#158
August 17, 2015, 10:04:17 AM
Quote from: Norgy on August 17, 2015, 08:06:33 AM
I find it incredibly funny that Tony Abott's Australia is waging a war on "illegal immigration".
I hope he gets eaten by a dingo.
I find this perfectly reasonable they saw what happened with the aboriginals when they let illegal immigration occur.  ;)

Valmy

#159
August 17, 2015, 11:02:05 AM
Quote from: Archy on August 17, 2015, 10:04:17 AM
I find this perfectly reasonable they saw what happened with the aboriginals when they let illegal immigration occur.  ;)

They didn't have a flag.
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Razgovory

#160
August 17, 2015, 02:17:00 PM
Quote from: Martinus on August 17, 2015, 01:16:07 AM

Where did that come from?

Response to Eddie's post.  You need to pay attention.
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Norgy

#161
August 17, 2015, 04:49:29 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 17, 2015, 08:21:10 AM
Quote from: Norgy on August 17, 2015, 08:06:33 AM
I find it incredibly funny that Tony Abott's Australia is waging a war on "illegal immigration".

Why?

Mostly because nobody invited white people there. Yet they came. It is deliciously ironic.
Europe has fucked so many places up that we now refuse to open our borders to the victims of said fuckuppery.

Eddie Teach

#162
August 17, 2015, 04:58:51 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 17, 2015, 02:17:00 PM
Response to Eddie's post.  You need to pay attention.

:huh:

I just meant that Missouri is in the SEC. Nothing about Ferguson. I have never maintained that southern states have a monopoly on racial strife in America.
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Valmy

#163
August 17, 2015, 06:01:38 PM Last Edit: August 17, 2015, 06:10:42 PM by Valmy
Quote from: Norgy on August 17, 2015, 04:49:29 PM
Mostly because nobody invited white people there. Yet they came. It is deliciously ironic.

How was it ironic? The principle there was Imperial Glory not a stand for the free movement of peoples across borders.

QuoteEurope has fucked so many places up that we now refuse to open our borders to the victims of said fuckuppery.

Australia is in Europe now? Fascinating.

The world has been fucked up ever since people walked upright. Chill. Last I checked very few countries open their borders to victims of fuckuppery if they can avoid it regardless of their levels of fucking shit up.

Justice just is not a thing when it comes to stuff like this. The country who nobly throws open its borders becomes the sucker who gets everybody.
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garbon

#164
August 17, 2015, 06:09:57 PM
How did you get that he was saying Australia was in Europe*? :huh:

*Eurovision notwithstanding
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