Who would you vote if the 2016 election is Trump vs. Sanders

Started by jimmy olsen, August 03, 2015, 11:13:19 PM

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Who would you vote if the 2016 election is Trump vs. Sanders?

American - I'd vote for Trump
11 (13.8%)
American - I'd vote for Sanders
27 (33.8%)
American - I'd vote for a right wing third party candidate
2 (2.5%)
American - I'd vote for a left wing third party candidate
2 (2.5%)
Euro and Friends - I'd vote for Trump
8 (10%)
Euro and Friends - I'd vote for Sanders
25 (31.3%)
Euro and Friends - I'd vote for a right wing third party candidate
1 (1.3%)
Euro and Friends - I'd vote for a left wing third party candidate
4 (5%)

Total Members Voted: 79

Ancient Demon

Ideally race wouldn't matter at all, but if it's acceptable for PoC to vote based on whatever favours their race more, I'm not sure it's worse for more white people to do so as well. The white guilt phase of race relations will eventually come to an end one way or another.
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garbon

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No kidding. Race not mattering at all, what a horrible sentiment.  :wacko:
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garbon

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 07, 2015, 12:42:15 AM
No kidding. Race not mattering at all, what a horrible sentiment.  :wacko:

We aren't even anywhere near a society where it makes sense to opine about an ideal world where race doesn't matter / let alone that useless statement about the white guilt phase coming to an end some way or another.
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Ancient Demon

Somehow I offended garbon yet again. Not sure how exactly, but he can only sling insults in response. :rolleyes:
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jimmy olsen

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Valmy

Quote from: Ancient Demon on September 07, 2015, 12:07:53 AM
Ideally race wouldn't matter at all, but if it's acceptable for PoC to vote based on whatever favours their race more, I'm not sure it's worse for more white people to do so as well. The white guilt phase of race relations will eventually come to an end one way or another.

It would take a pretty crazy amount of race based oppression inflicted on me and my family before I started voting based on race. Just saying.
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DontSayBanana

Quote from: Siege on September 06, 2015, 10:23:12 PM
So, 43% for Sanders and barely 18% for Trump.
This is why I don't come to Languish that frequently anymore. The country is falling in pieces due to 0bama's and his minions' mismanagement and people here still think socialism is a viable option.

Whether you're putting all your eggs in the basket of the government or the free market, you're still naively putting your faith in a potentially capricious higher power.  This is why I'm a centrist and stick to fiscal conservatism in the strictest sense of "what will cost us the least amount of money."  Mercenary, sure, but I trust the market as much as I trust an intrusive government (i.e. not much).
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 08, 2015, 07:05:15 AM
The shit gets crazier by the week :wacko:





Not surprising. It's all about showmanship. Trump has that in spades. If he is still the popular front runner and doesn't get the nomination, he will most likely still run anyway. This will kill whoever the GOP establishment puts forward.

No worries tim, you'll be saying Madam President before long.

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Ancient Demon

Quote from: Valmy on September 08, 2015, 07:32:53 AMIt would take a pretty crazy amount of race based oppression inflicted on me and my family before I started voting based on race. Just saying.

Good.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 08, 2015, 11:03:18 AM
Whether you're putting all your eggs in the basket of the government or the free market, you're still naively putting your faith in a potentially capricious higher power.  This is why I'm a centrist and stick to fiscal conservatism in the strictest sense of "what will cost us the least amount of money."  Mercenary, sure, but I trust the market as much as I trust an intrusive government (i.e. not much).

"Faith" in the market doesn't require any positive belief in a higher power, rather the belief that individualistic, atomistic actors are acting in their own self interest.

DGuller

Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 08, 2015, 01:25:46 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 08, 2015, 11:03:18 AM
Whether you're putting all your eggs in the basket of the government or the free market, you're still naively putting your faith in a potentially capricious higher power.  This is why I'm a centrist and stick to fiscal conservatism in the strictest sense of "what will cost us the least amount of money."  Mercenary, sure, but I trust the market as much as I trust an intrusive government (i.e. not much).

"Faith" in the market doesn't require any positive belief in a higher power, rather the belief that individualistic, atomistic actors are acting in their own self interest.
Well, it also requires belief that these self-interest actions actually do further the common good, and that none of the many possible ways the invisible hand can fist you actually materialize to a significant degree.

Valmy

Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 08, 2015, 01:25:46 PM
"Faith" in the market doesn't require any positive belief in a higher power, rather the belief that individualistic, atomistic actors are acting in their own self interest.

I do not really trust the actors to do that. If they did everybody wouldn't own consumer crap and instead bank all their money...and then the economy would collapse.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

grumbler

Quote from: Valmy on September 08, 2015, 02:34:07 PM
I do not really trust the actors to do that. If they did everybody wouldn't own consumer crap and instead bank all their money...and then the economy would collapse.

Why would banking all of their money and starving to death be in someone's best interests?

For that matter, why is consumption "crap?"
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