Who would you vote if the 2016 election is Trump vs. Sanders

Started by jimmy olsen, August 03, 2015, 11:13:19 PM

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Who would you vote if the 2016 election is Trump vs. Sanders?

American - I'd vote for Trump
11 (13.8%)
American - I'd vote for Sanders
27 (33.8%)
American - I'd vote for a right wing third party candidate
2 (2.5%)
American - I'd vote for a left wing third party candidate
2 (2.5%)
Euro and Friends - I'd vote for Trump
8 (10%)
Euro and Friends - I'd vote for Sanders
25 (31.3%)
Euro and Friends - I'd vote for a right wing third party candidate
1 (1.3%)
Euro and Friends - I'd vote for a left wing third party candidate
4 (5%)

Total Members Voted: 79

Razgovory

Bleh.  I spent the last eight years telling people that the Democratic party isn't a socialist party and then this bastard is going to fuck it all up. <_<  More realistically, he doesn't have a party.  What kind of allies can he be expected to have in Congress?
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Razgovory on August 31, 2015, 10:34:38 PM
Bleh.  I spent the last eight years telling people that the Democratic party isn't a socialist party and then this bastard is going to fuck it all up. <_<  More realistically, he doesn't have a party.  What kind of allies can he be expected to have in Congress?

I would assume the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Progressive_Caucus
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: Razgovory on August 31, 2015, 10:34:38 PM
More realistically, he doesn't have a party.  What kind of allies can he be expected to have in Congress?

If Democratic primary voters choose him, I'm sure Congressional democrats will fall in line.
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Quote from: Martinus on August 30, 2015, 03:11:40 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 30, 2015, 03:02:43 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 30, 2015, 01:55:54 PM
Wait is Krauthammer considered the voice of reason and respectability in the Republican Party? Oh dear.

He went a little bonkers during GW2.

Well, many people were upset about certain conditions not stacking, so...

:D

Martinus

Quote from: Barrister on August 31, 2015, 04:26:00 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 31, 2015, 03:51:01 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 31, 2015, 03:09:24 PM
[I can't help but think that a lot of the press and at least some of his followers just have a morbid curiosity in seeing how far this will go and how bad the crash will be.  Prediction:  There will be a bimbo on the side and some financial irregularities which will be revealed that will result in him going completely bonkers on the air.

His entire public persona is built on the aquisiton of bimbos.  His comment about Princess Diana's death was "I wish I had dated her."   He's on record as saying he would bang his daughter if she weren't his daughter.

I similarly doubt that we're going to discover that he hasn't been paying his taxes for the last 5 years.

He'll fail because his negatives are too high.

My thought was "how many more financial irregularities does Trump need to have"?

How many businesses have gone bankrupt?  And while Trump liked to spin that as "reorganization", a bankruptcy means that creditors don't get paid.  Trump's hasn't paid an awful lot of creditors out there.

If he is so creative with "reorganisations", he could save the US. All he needs to do is admit Puerto Rico as a state and then spin off everything but Puerto Rico into a separate corporate entity, leaving Puerto Rico with the entire Chinese debt.  :secret:

Martinus

A tweet from Bill Maher:

QuoteOMG Trump and Palin are a team now! As foretold in ‪#‎Revelations‬

:lol:

So is Trump the Beast 666 and Palin the Whore of Babylon, or vice versa?

Admiral Yi


Martinus

Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 01, 2015, 02:13:41 AM
Bill Maher is the antichrist of funny.

Does it mean he is unfunny or that he is devilishly funny?  :hmm:

Admiral Yi

OK, I mean humor anti-matter.  If he and humor were ever to exist in the same space existence would cease.

celedhring

#204
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 01, 2015, 02:43:30 AM
OK, I mean humor anti-matter.  If he and humor were ever to exist in the same space existence would cease.

So he's so funny that the universe couldn't cope with it?  :hmm:

MadImmortalMan

Quote from: Razgovory on August 31, 2015, 10:34:38 PM
Bleh.  I spent the last eight years telling people that the Democratic party isn't a socialist party and then this bastard is going to fuck it all up. <_<  More realistically, he doesn't have a party.  What kind of allies can he be expected to have in Congress?

So...you were wrong?

Anyway, Bernie is only a Democrat because it's convenient to run for President that way. Same with Trump and the GOP.
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DontSayBanana

Quote from: alfred russel on August 31, 2015, 02:38:16 PM
Quote from: DGuller on August 31, 2015, 12:32:35 PM
According to the latest Iowa poll, the top 3 are Trump, Carson, and Fiorina.  :hmm: It's not until fourth place that you get, oh crap, Cruz.  Oy vey.

Fiorina doesn't seem to be crazy. Just a failed CEO with no compelling case to be president.

This is what happens when your establishment candidates are:

Bush--no one wants another Bush, at times it seems including the candidate
Walker--seems to have been infected with the crazy virus recently, which is in heavy circulation during republican primaries
Rubio--he may be a guy to watch longer term, but what a time to be hispanic after Trump outs them as rapists.
Perry--I had some reason why he isn't a strong candidate, but I can't think of it. Oops.



BushDo we really want 41,43, and 45 to all be Bushes?
WalkerIt's not new- it's just finally getting national attention that if you say "public sector union" in the mirror 3 times, Walker will magically appear, frothing at the mouth.  Even the Koch brothers know better than to blatantly go after unions in a national election cycle.
Rubio:blink: There's nothing establishment about Rubio.  He rode the Tea Party wave, just like Cruz.  He's slightly less mouth-frothy, but not once you bring up Cuba.
PerryHaving criminal charges for abuse of office pending tends to put a damper on a presidential campaign.
Experience bij!

Barrister

Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 01, 2015, 10:07:28 AM
Perry Having criminal charges for abuse of office pending tends to put a damper on a presidential campaign.

I was under the impression that whatever else you might say about Rick Perry, those charges were generally seen as BS and lacking in legal merit.  I note in googling that one has already been thrown out, and the other is generally seen as weak.
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Valmy

One shouldn't judge Perry too much on those charges when there is so much else to judge him on. Anyway he is a non-entity.
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Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 01, 2015, 10:07:28 AM
Bush -Do we really want 41,43, and 45 to all be Bushes?

This seems like a ridiculous statement unless included alongside is a statement that one thinks latest Bush (by more than virtue of just their name) will be 'terrible' like 'one' assumes of the previous ones / or (and probably just would be ridiculous) some concern that we are headed down a dynastical route.
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