Who would you vote if the 2016 election is Trump vs. Sanders

Started by jimmy olsen, August 03, 2015, 11:13:19 PM

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Who would you vote if the 2016 election is Trump vs. Sanders?

American - I'd vote for Trump
11 (13.8%)
American - I'd vote for Sanders
27 (33.8%)
American - I'd vote for a right wing third party candidate
2 (2.5%)
American - I'd vote for a left wing third party candidate
2 (2.5%)
Euro and Friends - I'd vote for Trump
8 (10%)
Euro and Friends - I'd vote for Sanders
25 (31.3%)
Euro and Friends - I'd vote for a right wing third party candidate
1 (1.3%)
Euro and Friends - I'd vote for a left wing third party candidate
4 (5%)

Total Members Voted: 79

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Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 01, 2015, 10:07:28 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on August 31, 2015, 02:38:16 PM
Quote from: DGuller on August 31, 2015, 12:32:35 PM
According to the latest Iowa poll, the top 3 are Trump, Carson, and Fiorina.  :hmm: It's not until fourth place that you get, oh crap, Cruz.  Oy vey.

Fiorina doesn't seem to be crazy. Just a failed CEO with no compelling case to be president.

This is what happens when your establishment candidates are:

Bush--no one wants another Bush, at times it seems including the candidate
Walker--seems to have been infected with the crazy virus recently, which is in heavy circulation during republican primaries
Rubio--he may be a guy to watch longer term, but what a time to be hispanic after Trump outs them as rapists.
Perry--I had some reason why he isn't a strong candidate, but I can't think of it. Oops.



BushDo we really want 41,43, and 45 to all be Bushes?
WalkerIt's not new- it's just finally getting national attention that if you say "public sector union" in the mirror 3 times, Walker will magically appear, frothing at the mouth.  Even the Koch brothers know better than to blatantly go after unions in a national election cycle.
Rubio:blink: There's nothing establishment about Rubio.  He rode the Tea Party wave, just like Cruz.  He's slightly less mouth-frothy, but not once you bring up Cuba.
PerryHaving criminal charges for abuse of office pending tends to put a damper on a presidential campaign.

What a bizarre conversation. :wacko:
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#215
Quote from: Valmy on September 01, 2015, 12:34:42 PM
He was a thousand points of light.

He was is a god-damn war hero.

Edit: he's not dead.
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DontSayBanana

Quote from: Barrister on September 01, 2015, 12:32:35 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on September 01, 2015, 10:59:08 AM
The first Bush wasn't _that_ bad.

Bush 41 was a damn fine President. :ultra:

I'm not complaining that they're all bad; I'm complaining that we went with a president to get away from a dynastic model.
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Valmy

Quote from: Barrister on September 01, 2015, 12:37:24 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 01, 2015, 12:34:42 PM
He was a thousand points of light.

He was is a god-damn war hero.

Edit: he's not dead.

I meant as President.

Anyway if you actually were a Bush 41 fan you would have recognized this reference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQhbEh8AeSA

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garbon

Quote from: The Brain on September 01, 2015, 12:26:38 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 01, 2015, 10:07:28 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on August 31, 2015, 02:38:16 PM
Quote from: DGuller on August 31, 2015, 12:32:35 PM
According to the latest Iowa poll, the top 3 are Trump, Carson, and Fiorina.  :hmm: It's not until fourth place that you get, oh crap, Cruz.  Oy vey.

Fiorina doesn't seem to be crazy. Just a failed CEO with no compelling case to be president.

This is what happens when your establishment candidates are:

Bush--no one wants another Bush, at times it seems including the candidate
Walker--seems to have been infected with the crazy virus recently, which is in heavy circulation during republican primaries
Rubio--he may be a guy to watch longer term, but what a time to be hispanic after Trump outs them as rapists.
Perry--I had some reason why he isn't a strong candidate, but I can't think of it. Oops.



BushDo we really want 41,43, and 45 to all be Bushes?
WalkerIt's not new- it's just finally getting national attention that if you say "public sector union" in the mirror 3 times, Walker will magically appear, frothing at the mouth.  Even the Koch brothers know better than to blatantly go after unions in a national election cycle.
Rubio:blink: There's nothing establishment about Rubio.  He rode the Tea Party wave, just like Cruz.  He's slightly less mouth-frothy, but not once you bring up Cuba.
PerryHaving criminal charges for abuse of office pending tends to put a damper on a presidential campaign.

What a bizarre conversation. :wacko:

:D
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Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 31, 2015, 11:05:59 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 31, 2015, 10:34:38 PM
More realistically, he doesn't have a party.  What kind of allies can he be expected to have in Congress?

If Democratic primary voters choose him, I'm sure Congressional democrats will fall in line.

:lmfao:

Oh, you were serious. :(
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DontSayBanana

#221
Quote from: garbon on September 01, 2015, 12:46:22 PM
:D

Shush, you.

Right, I forgot this is Languish- where every conversation is an argument, and one can't simply add something extra without having it picked apart as a potential counterargument. <_<

The only points I was actually refuting were that Walker was ever sane when it came to unions, and that Rubio should be considered an "establishment" candidate.
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Razgovory

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on September 01, 2015, 09:41:41 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 31, 2015, 10:34:38 PM
Bleh.  I spent the last eight years telling people that the Democratic party isn't a socialist party and then this bastard is going to fuck it all up. <_<  More realistically, he doesn't have a party.  What kind of allies can he be expected to have in Congress?

So...you were wrong?

Anyway, Bernie is only a Democrat because it's convenient to run for President that way. Same with Trump and the GOP.

Would be wrong.  He hasn't been elected to office as a Democrat, yet.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 01, 2015, 02:43:30 AM
OK, I mean humor anti-matter.  If he and humor were ever to exist in the same space existence would cease.

Your basic idea is correct.  Physics are a little dodgy.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

garbon

Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 01, 2015, 12:52:24 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 01, 2015, 12:46:22 PM
:D

Shush, you.

Right, I forgot this is Languish- where every conversation is an argument, and one can't simply add something extra without having it picked apart as a potential counterargument. <_<

The only points I was actually refuting were that Walker was ever sane when it came to unions, and that Rubio should be considered an "establishment" candidate.

No read yours like it is lines of dialogue.
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