The Off Topic Topic

[garbon]

I wonder what it is about California with the Civic.

[derspiess]

F-350 FTW

[CountDeMoney]

I wonder what it is about California with the Civic.

Probably affordability.  I understand it's expensive to live in California.

[garbon]

I wonder what it is about California with the Civic.

Probably affordability.  I understand it's expensive to live in California.

I don't know. I flipped through this and California is up there but so are many of those states with more expensive cars. 

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100876442/

[Baron von Schtinkenbutt]

I used to eat chunks of raw ground beef back when I was little.  When my mom was making pelmeni, I was helping with the meat grinder, and I always took some small soft chunks.  It actually tastes surprisingly well.  Now that I look back on it, I'm surprised how I didn't give myself food poisoning.

Bolded part is the reason.  Bacterial contagions cannot penetrate solid beef muscle tissue very far.  If the raw meat is consumed shortly after grinding or slicing there isn't much of an issue unless you have some sort of immunological weakness.  Commercially-packaged ground beef has serious issues because it sits as ground meat for so long (thus being effectively all surface area) and because meat from multiple animals is mixed together (increasing the likelihood that bacterial contaminants can enter the mix.).

[crazy canuck]

That and the immunity he built up eating all those blueberries.

[The Brain]

CDC to Wisconsin: Please Avoid 'Cannibal Sandwiches'

(Newser) – "Cannibal sandwiches," an appetizer featuring raw, lean ground beef served on cocktail bread, may be a Wisconsin tradition, but they are not safe, health officials said, noting that more than a dozen people became ill after consuming them last holiday season. Health officials confirmed four cases tied to E. coli bacteria and 13 likely cases in people who ate the sandwiches at several gatherings late last year, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said a report issued this week. The meat came from a Watertown market that later recalled more than 2,500 pounds of meat.

Cannibal sandwiches were tied to outbreaks in Wisconsin in 1972, 1978, and 1994. The appetizer, also called "tiger meat," "steak tartare," or simply "ground beef," is usually a simple dish of lean ground meat seasoned with salt and pepper on rye cocktail bread with sliced raw onion, says Milwaukee historian John Gurda, who served it at his 1977 wedding reception. Occasionally, a raw egg will be mixed with the meat. Says the owner of a butcher shop in Kenosha: "It's like eating a cold hamburger that's a little on the raw side."

http://www.newser.com/story/178742/cdc-to-wisconsin-please-avoid-cannibal-sandwiches.html

I used to eat chunks of raw ground beef back when I was little.  When my mom was making pelmeni, I was helping with the meat grinder, and I always took some small soft chunks.  It actually tastes surprisingly well.  Now that I look back on it, I'm surprised how I didn't give myself food poisoning.

Eating raw beef is perfectly normal. It's awesome.

[Jacob]

A good steak tartare is awesome. As with most raw food, the safety has to do with the provenance and handling of it.

A friend of mine had raw chicken at a family farm in Japan....

[CountDeMoney]

A friend of mine had raw chicken at a family farm in Japan....

[Ed Anger]

 

[Barrister]

So, many Fords.

If I ever buy a Pick up, I'm buying a Tacoma/Tundra.

I my Tacoma, but they're pretty pricey compared to a Big Three truck.

[Savonarola]

CDC to Wisconsin: Please Avoid 'Cannibal Sandwiches'

(Newser) – "Cannibal sandwiches," an appetizer featuring raw, lean ground beef served on cocktail bread, may be a Wisconsin tradition, but they are not safe, health officials said, noting that more than a dozen people became ill after consuming them last holiday season. Health officials confirmed four cases tied to E. coli bacteria and 13 likely cases in people who ate the sandwiches at several gatherings late last year, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said a report issued this week. The meat came from a Watertown market that later recalled more than 2,500 pounds of meat.

Cannibal sandwiches were tied to outbreaks in Wisconsin in 1972, 1978, and 1994. The appetizer, also called "tiger meat," "steak tartare," or simply "ground beef," is usually a simple dish of lean ground meat seasoned with salt and pepper on rye cocktail bread with sliced raw onion, says Milwaukee historian John Gurda, who served it at his 1977 wedding reception. Occasionally, a raw egg will be mixed with the meat. Says the owner of a butcher shop in Kenosha: "It's like eating a cold hamburger that's a little on the raw side."

http://www.newser.com/story/178742/cdc-to-wisconsin-please-avoid-cannibal-sandwiches.html

The Arabs have a version with lamb called kibbeh (usually raw kibbeh in the United States.)  They really like the stuff.  I had a co-worker once whose family was Lebanese.  She was a vegetarian, but even she would eat kibbeh (lamb, the other red vegetable).

I prefer kibbeh to steak tartar.  It's spiced and they have a certain way of cutting it that really adds to the texture.

[Admiral Yi]

Ethiopians do a nice spiced raw beef dish called kitfoh.

[crazy canuck]

I prefer kibbeh to steak tartar.  It's spiced and they have a certain way of cutting it that really adds to the texture.

Kibbeh is good stuff. But I still prefer a steak tartar if it is prepared properly.  The problem is that lots of people try to do steak tartar these days - and sometimes not very well - no pun intended.

[Caliga]

Ethiopians do a nice spiced raw beef dish called kitfoh.

is that super hot?  I think I've had it before.