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Liep

#54060
January 22, 2016, 04:46:34 AM
"Af alle latterlige Ting forekommer det mig at være det allerlatterligste at have travlt" - Kierkegaard

"JamenajmenømahrmDÆ!DÆ! Æhvnårvaæhvadlelæh! Hvor er det crazy, det her, mand!" - Uffe Elbæk

Syt

#54061
January 22, 2016, 05:08:57 AM
Sorry, mongers :(
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Valmy

#54062
January 22, 2016, 09:03:49 AM
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Eddie Teach

#54063
January 22, 2016, 09:05:18 AM
Quote from: Valmy on January 22, 2016, 09:03:49 AM
Oh FFS. This gate stuff is getting out of control.

Blame the DNC for not picking a different hotel.
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Valmy

#54064
January 22, 2016, 09:07:27 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 22, 2016, 09:05:18 AM
Quote from: Valmy on January 22, 2016, 09:03:49 AM
Oh FFS. This gate stuff is getting out of control.

Blame the DNC for not picking a different hotel.

I have been waiting for somebody to call the Flint Michigan thing '#watergate'
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Eddie Teach

#54065
January 22, 2016, 09:12:19 AM
#watergate does not bother me
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Valmy

#54066
January 22, 2016, 09:35:15 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 22, 2016, 09:12:19 AM
#watergate does not bother me

Well yeah you get to drink yummy SA water.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Syt

#54067
January 22, 2016, 04:39:39 PM
We need more weddings with Maori Hakas: https://www.facebook.com/IPTBT/videos/1395318357151873/?theater
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

mongers

#54068
January 22, 2016, 05:19:17 PM Last Edit: January 22, 2016, 07:59:32 PM by mongers
Quote from: Syt on January 22, 2016, 04:39:39 PM
We need more weddings with Maori Hakas: https://www.facebook.com/IPTBT/videos/1395318357151873/?theater

Indeed, also I think they can suit other occasions depending on the 'tone'*.


* I've no idea if that's true, but the one performed a Jonah Lomu was rather moving.

edit:
here if you're interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJc2bO1Ndqo
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Admiral Yi

#54069
January 22, 2016, 06:11:52 PM
Does anyone know a source that would tell me that total amount of property owned by mobsters that was nationalized by Castro?

I found this source (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3369434/Give-empire-built-blood-money-Notorious-Mafia-figure-s-family-tell-fight-Havana-hotel-casino-Castro-s-clutches-Obama-s-end-embargo.html) that says Meyer Lanksy's family is claiming 7 million dollars, and this article (https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2014/04/18/cuba-you-owe-billion/jHAufRfQJ9Bx24TuzQyBNO/story.html) which lists the top 50 claimants.  But I haven't found anything that shows mob property as a percentage of the total.

The context is we were discussing my parents' upcoming trip to Cuba at lunch, I mentioned nationalization, he counted countered it was "mostly mob money," (later amended to "a lot") and I recalled Raz said something similar a while back.  So I'm looking to debunk.

$7 million from Lanksy out of $7 billion total is a start, but I'd like something comprehensive.

Fun fact from the Boston Globe article: 3/4 of arable land in Cuba was "controlled" (their word) by Americans at the time it was nationalized.

Eddie Teach

#54070
January 22, 2016, 06:16:23 PM
Was Hyman Roth supposed to be a stand-in for Lansky?
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The Brain

#54071
January 22, 2016, 06:19:34 PM
lol hyman
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Admiral Yi

#54072
January 22, 2016, 06:21:27 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 22, 2016, 06:16:23 PM
Was Hyman Roth supposed to be a stand-in for Lansky?

I've seen the exact same historical document about Mob investment in Cuba as you, so no clue.

MadImmortalMan

#54073
January 22, 2016, 06:39:47 PM
It's rather difficult to believe that of all the nationalized stuff, more than 50% of it was mob stuff.

I mean I guess it's possible, but I'd be very very surprised.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

Eddie Teach

#54074
January 22, 2016, 06:49:22 PM
Well, his wiki page says Yes.  :sleep:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyman_Roth
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