A Thread About US Politics

[Eddie Teach]

I'm also unsure how support of a transparency society and animal rights mesh with resentment.

Those are examples of "goofy shit lefties like". The resentment hypothesis is not mine.

[Ideologue]

Indeed. You're not engaged in silly reductionism/faxtional infighting.

[alfred russel]

I'm also unsure how support of a transparency society and animal rights mesh with resentment.

You are alienated from the society in which you were raised and this provides you an alternative community. Also, a girl convinced you. See that John Goodman's character in the Big Lebowski and the sabbath. 

[CountDeMoney]

Really don't think a pathological lying sociopath should be talking about anything regarding alienation from a society.

[alfred russel]

Really don't think a pathological lying sociopath should be talking about anything regarding alienation from a society.

This is fun! First we deconstruct Ide, then you want to deconstruct me, now is it time to deconstruct you? 

[Razgovory]

I have no fucking idea at all how de facto legalizing illegal immigration came to be a left cause beyond identity politics. We are too many by about a hundred fifty million already.

It's called priortization of limited resources.
No executive adminstration has succeeded in controlling illegal immigration.  So the choice is either between trying to enforce the law poorly and haphazardly against all or setting priorities.

I've said it before - Ide just does not understand leftism. Leftism is about inclusion and what is called "mercy" (as opposed to "justice") in Jewish theology. On this basis, amnesty for illegal immigrants is clearly a leftist choice.

Of course, Ide's "leftism" essentially boils down to being resentful of people who are more succesful than he is.

I honestly don't know what you are on about with the Justice and Mercy thing.  You are right about Ide, though.

[derspiess]

Really don't think a pathological lying sociopath should be talking about anything regarding alienation from a society.

This is fun! First we deconstruct Ide, then you want to deconstruct me, now is it time to deconstruct you? 

Wouldn't be that hard.  Just use what he said about you and take out the lying part.

[Razgovory]

Personally I've found deconstructing people messy and unhygienic.

[Eddie Teach]

Personally I've found deconstructing people messy and unhygienic.

Perhaps you're not using the right method.

[Barrister]

Personally I've found deconstructing people messy and unhygienic.

"Decontractucting" is supposed to be a metaphor, Raz.

[grumbler]

I respectfully disagree as to the first assertion.

Sorry, that was an incomplete sentence.  It should have read, "The guy gets plenty of sex compared to me." 

[Martinus]

I have no fucking idea at all how de facto legalizing illegal immigration came to be a left cause beyond identity politics. We are too many by about a hundred fifty million already.

It's called priortization of limited resources.
No executive adminstration has succeeded in controlling illegal immigration.  So the choice is either between trying to enforce the law poorly and haphazardly against all or setting priorities.

I've said it before - Ide just does not understand leftism. Leftism is about inclusion and what is called "mercy" (as opposed to "justice") in Jewish theology. On this basis, amnesty for illegal immigrants is clearly a leftist choice.

Of course, Ide's "leftism" essentially boils down to being resentful of people who are more succesful than he is.

I honestly don't know what you are on about with the Justice and Mercy thing.  You are right about Ide, though.

Well, it was said that there were two pillars at the entrance to the Temple of Salomon - Yakin and Boaz - Justice and Mercy.

Justice is about giving everyone his or her due, about retribution and just reward or punishment, without any consideration for empathy or sympathy.  It is the Old Testament God. It is Lawful Neutral.

Mercy is about forgiveness, turning the other cheek, answering evil with good. It is Jesus Christ. It is Chaotic Good.

Conservatives consistently value the former while Liberals value the latter.

[derspiess]

Lol Pole-itics.

[Razgovory]

That is a bid odd coming from you, but it is an interesting perspective.  I don't see them as two extremes, in fact I seem them as compatible.  For instance a man who beats his wife should be prosecuted.  It is not a mercy to let him go (at least not to his wife). While incarcerated we should try to reform him, and if he shows genuine reform should be released early.  I think both Mercy and Justice are both served in such a situation.


Incidentally, I always play lawful neutral.

[MadImmortalMan]

When used together they mitigate each other. They are opposites.