Getting Crap Past the Radar - in G rated movies

[Malthus]

My kid wanted to see a movie and I did not have any lined up, so I rented "The Great Mouse Detective" from On Demand.

It's a Disney film, a nice little Sherlock Holmes thing with mice, G rated. We were watching it when this one scene came on that caused me to do a rather large double-take.

The characters go into a seedy bar, disguised as low-life sailors. The bar has live entertainment. The patrons jeer and throw tomatoes (and knives!) at the acts, until this demure female mouse singer comes on and calms them down ... then WTF? Does a ... rather suggestive ... burlesque act.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2IctxaCPqw

"It's that awkward moment when you are watching a Disney movie with your kid, and the mouse starts stripping ..." 

How they got this past whoever hands out the ratings I have no idea ... Of course the kid didn't notice, but my wife and I were definitely chuckling about it.

Anyone else got some examples of this?

[Grey Fox]

In the US that movie is Rated R+

Ontario censor(rating) board doesn't censor much! As Liberal as the Quebec one.

[Ed Anger]

I liked it in Rodger Rabbit when Donald supposedly calls Daffy a nigger.

[derspiess]

Snow White has some dark stuff in it that would never make it into kids movies these days.  Like the evil queen telling her henchman to murder Snow White and bring her heart back in a box.  He couldn't do it, so he brought back a pig's heart (OMG animal cruelty).

[DGuller]

Snow White has some dark stuff in it that would never make it into kids movies these days.  Like the evil queen telling her henchman to murder Snow White and bring her heart back in a box.  He couldn't do it, so he brought back a pig's heart (OMG animal cruelty).

The version with Groundskeeper Willy was a lot milder.

[Eddie Teach]

In the US that movie is Rated R+

No, it's rated G.

[celedhring]

In Dumbo they get high on "soap".

[Ed Anger]

In Dumbo they get high on "soap".

General Stillwell loved that movie.

[Neil]

I loved the Great Mouse Detective when I was a kid.

At any rate, it was a different time back then.  People were less obsessed with protecting children from reality back then, and the 24-hour news cycle and the internet hadn't yet created the perpetual outrage machine.  It's also important to note that the Disney animated musicals weren't the juggernauts that they became after The Little Mermaid, and that Disney wasn't the slick megacorporation we're used to today.  The movie was considered a modest success making 20-odd million dollars, so expectations were lower.  And the movie was authorized and under production in a time when Disney was essentially still run by Disney's son-in-law.  The clean, polished corporate suits would spend the next decade eliminating that sort of thing from the company.

I think that a lot of children's movies have little jokes for the adults, but you'll probably never see another sequence like that in a new film.

[Syt]

Animaniacs were good at it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIzi8YjYpak

[crazy canuck]

I loved the Great Mouse Detective when I was a kid.

At any rate, it was a different time back then.  People were less obsessed with protecting children from reality back then, and the 24-hour news cycle and the internet hadn't yet created the perpetual outrage machine.  It's also important to note that the Disney animated musicals weren't the juggernauts that they became after The Little Mermaid, and that Disney wasn't the slick megacorporation we're used to today.  The movie was considered a modest success making 20-odd million dollars, so expectations were lower.  And the movie was authorized and under production in a time when Disney was essentially still run by Disney's son-in-law.  The clean, polished corporate suits would spend the next decade eliminating that sort of thing from the company.

I think that a lot of children's movies have little jokes for the adults, but you'll probably never see another sequence like that in a new film.

Yeah, I was going to say Malthus' "large double take" didnt register at all back in the day.  One more indication this generation of kids are being raised in sterile enviornment.  They cant go out on their own, they cant play unless it has been prearranged by adults and they cant see anything that would trouble them (until they get to the privacy of their rooms and log onto the internet themselves....).

[Malthus]

I loved the Great Mouse Detective when I was a kid.

At any rate, it was a different time back then.  People were less obsessed with protecting children from reality back then, and the 24-hour news cycle and the internet hadn't yet created the perpetual outrage machine.  It's also important to note that the Disney animated musicals weren't the juggernauts that they became after The Little Mermaid, and that Disney wasn't the slick megacorporation we're used to today.  The movie was considered a modest success making 20-odd million dollars, so expectations were lower.  And the movie was authorized and under production in a time when Disney was essentially still run by Disney's son-in-law.  The clean, polished corporate suits would spend the next decade eliminating that sort of thing from the company.

I think that a lot of children's movies have little jokes for the adults, but you'll probably never see another sequence like that in a new film.

Yeah, I was going to say Malthus' "large double take" didnt register at all back in the day.  One more indication this generation of kids are being raised in sterile enviornment.  They cant go out on their own, they cant play unless it has been prearranged by adults and they cant see anything that would trouble them (until they get to the privacy of their rooms and log onto the internet themselves....).

Don't agree - when the movie came out in 1986, I was already an adut; and though I didn't see it until now, I'd have found it just as hilarious then as now.

Also, kid's animation on TV can get downright bizzare these days (Adventure Time, anyone?). It is mostly the juxtaposition of Disney movie - with a stripping mouse - that creates the doubletake. Bugs Bunny did stuff like that all the time, but in Disney?

[Valmy]

I loved that movie.  The villain was just so very very evil. 

[Malthus]

I loved that movie.  The villain was just so very very evil.

Voice by ... Vincent Price! 

[Neil]

I loved the Great Mouse Detective when I was a kid.

At any rate, it was a different time back then.  People were less obsessed with protecting children from reality back then, and the 24-hour news cycle and the internet hadn't yet created the perpetual outrage machine.  It's also important to note that the Disney animated musicals weren't the juggernauts that they became after The Little Mermaid, and that Disney wasn't the slick megacorporation we're used to today.  The movie was considered a modest success making 20-odd million dollars, so expectations were lower.  And the movie was authorized and under production in a time when Disney was essentially still run by Disney's son-in-law.  The clean, polished corporate suits would spend the next decade eliminating that sort of thing from the company.

I think that a lot of children's movies have little jokes for the adults, but you'll probably never see another sequence like that in a new film.

Yeah, I was going to say Malthus' "large double take" didnt register at all back in the day.  One more indication this generation of kids are being raised in sterile enviornment.  They cant go out on their own, they cant play unless it has been prearranged by adults and they cant see anything that would trouble them (until they get to the privacy of their rooms and log onto the internet themselves....).

Don't agree - when the movie came out in 1986, I was already an adut; and though I didn't see it until now, I'd have found it just as hilarious then as now.

Also, kid's animation on TV can get downright bizzare these days (Adventure Time, anyone?). It is mostly the juxtaposition of Disney movie - with a stripping mouse - that creates the doubletake. Bugs Bunny did stuff like that all the time, but in Disney?

But that's the whole point.  Disney wasn't 'Disney' yet.  The sterile megacorp hadn't yet been constructed, and the culture war hadn't reached the point where people would fight and die over that scene.

I remember seeing that movie in the theatre as a boy, and not finding it troublesome or unusual.  It was a bad-guy bar, so why wouldn't there be slightly-clad women dancing around?  After all, Jabba's palace was three years earlier, so it's not like it was a surprise to a child of the 80s that evil places were full of dancing girls.