Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-25

[Legbiter]

And then what? He looks like a meek servile idiot smiling while those two humiliate him and his nation, and for what?

Patriot missiles and batteries. HIMARS ammo and launchers. Bradley parts and servicing, etc, etc. There has been this conveyor belt of European heads of states these last 10 days sizing up the Trump administration. The napkin math from these meetings in terms of diverted investment away from US weapons and direct foreign investment is probably a hefty sum.

The Americans will now retaliate in some fashion I'd guess. 

[Razgovory]

Trump wasn't offering any weapons.  In fact, he's not offering anything.  He wants something for nothing.  He's nothing more than a rent-seeking landlord.  

[Tamas]

And then what? He looks like a meek servile idiot smiling while those two humiliate him and his nation, and for what?

Patriot missiles and batteries. HIMARS ammo and launchers. Bradley parts and servicing, etc, etc. There has been this conveyor belt of European heads of states these last 10 days sizing up the Trump administration. The napkin math from these meetings in terms of diverted investment away from US weapons and direct foreign investment is probably a hefty sum.

The Americans will now retaliate in some fashion I'd guess.

There has been zero indication, let alone proof, that any of that was on the table at any point.

[Legbiter]

There has been zero indication, let alone proof, that any of that was on the table at any point.

Probably because all these are currently being produced and shipped to Ukraine as fast as they come off the factory floor. This is the spigot that got turned off disastrously during the Biden administration.

[Tonitrus]

https://therecord.media/hegseth-orders-cyber-command-stand-down-russia-planning

[Tamas]

There has been zero indication, let alone proof, that any of that was on the table at any point.

Probably because all these are currently being produced and shipped to Ukraine as fast as they come off the factory floor. This is the spigot that got turned off disastrously during the Biden administration.

I think what you are trying to say is that what was to be gained by agreeing to Trump's "deal" was the continuation of US support. Again: that was not part of the contract offered and Trump has made no commitment to that effect.

[Syt]

https://therecord.media/hegseth-orders-cyber-command-stand-down-russia-planning

I'm sure Russia will do likewise and not attack any US resources.

[Josquius]

https://therecord.media/hegseth-orders-cyber-command-stand-down-russia-planning

I'm sure Russia will do likewise and not attack any US resources.

They're on the same side now, working to undermine democracy and push far right lunacy, so....

[Legbiter]

I think what you are trying to say is that what was to be gained by agreeing to Trump's "deal" was the continuation of US support. Again: that was not part of the contract offered and Trump has made no commitment to that effect.

... 


JFC... 

[Syt]

https://therecord.media/hegseth-orders-cyber-command-stand-down-russia-planning

More from the Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-russia-hacking-cyber-security

[...]

The US policy change has also been established behind closed doors.

A recent memo at the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (Cisa) set out new priorities for the agency, which is part of the Department of Homeland Security and monitors cyber threats against US critical infrastructure. The new directive set out priorities that included China and protecting local systems. It did not mention Russia.

A person familiar with the matter who spoke to the Guardian on the condition of anonymity said analysts at the agency were verbally informed that they were not to follow or report on Russian threats, even though this had previously been a main focus for the agency.

The person said work that was being done on something "Russia-related" was in effect "nixed".

"Russia and China are our biggest adversaries. With all the cuts being made to different agencies, a lot of cyber security personnel have been fired. Our systems are not going to be protected and our adversaries know this," the person said.

The person added: "People are saying Russia is winning. Putin is on the inside now."

The New York Times has separately reported that the Trump administration has also reassigned officials at Cisa who were focused on safeguarding elections from cyberattacks and other attempts to disrupt voting.

Another person who previously worked on US Joint Task Forces operating at elevated classification levels to track and combat Russian cyber threats said the development was "truly shocking".

"There are thousands of US government employees and military working daily on the massive threat Russia poses as possibly the most significant nation state threat actor. Not to diminish the significance of China, Iran, or North Korea, but Russia is at least on par with China as the most significant cyber threat," the person said.

The person added:"There are dozens of discrete Russia state-sponsored hacker teams dedicated to either producing damage to US government, infrastructure, and commercial interests or conducting information theft with a key goal of maintaining persistent access to computer systems."

[The Minsky Moment]

https://therecord.media/hegseth-orders-cyber-command-stand-down-russia-planning

From Mr. Rah Rah Super Warrior to peace through unilateral disarmament in a fortnight.  Bravo.

Go tattoo God Wills Me to be a Pussy on yourself, Pete.

[Syt]

https://therecord.media/hegseth-orders-cyber-command-stand-down-russia-planning

From Mr. Rah Rah Super Warrior to peace through unilateral disarmament in a fortnight.  Bravo.

Cyberdefense is for basement dwelling computer NERDS! Real warriors don't deal with that shit!

[Jacob]

I hope that American democracy recovers, and at least some of those who are betraying their country right now are made to face the consequences of that betrayal.

[Syt]

Trump will just pardon them

[Grey Fox]

I hope that American democracy recovers, and at least some of those who are betraying their country right now are made to face the consequences of that betrayal.

Well, unless you flee, you and I will get a front seat view of it has part of the newest territory of the New Russian American Empire. Krasnov is finally delivering.