BREAKING NEWS - Malaysian airliner crashes on Russian-Ukrainian border

[derspiess]

Who sent the black boxes to Russia in the first place?

I believe it was the pro-Russian militants in Ukraine who sent them, since they had control over the area where the crash occurred and were pictured surveying their damage.

I'm almost surprised they didn't hide or destroy the black box and claim they couldn't find it.

[Hansmeister]

but to add insult to injury for you people, black as well,

At least he is not a gypsy.

[Grey Fox]

Apparently nothing. Just as when anything else happens in the world.  He has nothing to do and nothing to say.

Isn't that refreshing. An American president who lets the world sort their shit without him.

[garbon]

Apparently nothing. Just as when anything else happens in the world.  He has nothing to do and nothing to say.

Isn't that refreshing. An American president who lets the world sort their shit without him.

[derspiess]

Apparently nothing. Just as when anything else happens in the world.  He has nothing to do and nothing to say.

Isn't that refreshing. An American president who lets the world sort their shit without him.

Yes.  By all means, world, proceed without us.  We're tired and broke.  Just don't come crying to us when "someone needs to do something".

[derspiess]

Looks like flights are now avoiding Ukraine, though I'd still be nervous if my flight path skirted the eastern border with Russia.




Also I like the shaded oval around Ukraine, as if the relative lack of plane icons weren't enough clue to where it is.

[Valmy]

It looks like they are avoiding Finland and Norway as well.  I guess they just use Reindeer taxis to get around.

[Viking]

They seem to be avoid israel and syria too, and in iraq, they all seem to follow one narrow corridor.

[Viking]

It looks like they are avoiding Finland and Norway as well.  I guess they just use Reindeer taxis to get around.

Re Airtravel in norway. If that is a snapshot on the hour there will be few if any aircraft airborn in norway, 5 minutes into the hour at least 20. The flights between Oslo, Trondheim, Stavanger, Bergen, Kristiansand and Aalesund all are 55 minutes or less. Usually the ones too and from Oslo take off on the hour every hour.

[Malthus]

Wouldn't the black box just show that there was no technical issue before the aircraft was hit by a missle?

If it was sent to Moscow, we can expect it to produce a signed confession in a couple of days. 

[dps]

They seem to be avoid israel and syria too, and in iraq, they all seem to follow one narrow corridor.

In Iraq, there's not really much to fly to outside that corridor, at least as far a population centers go.

[Razgovory]

Apparently nothing. Just as when anything else happens in the world.  He has nothing to do and nothing to say.

Then again, given his abysmal track records, it is probably for the best that he has given up on the job.

It wasn't an American plane and no Americans were killed.  I can't really imagine what he has to say.  This seems like a "Btw, we hate Obama, he's shiftless and feckless.  Don't forget!"

[Razgovory]

I'm curious how Europe will react to this.  After all, most of the dead of Western Europeans.

What would be an appropriate response in your opinion?

A harder line against Russia, more sanctions.

[CountDeMoney]

Wouldn't the black box just show that there was no technical issue before the aircraft was hit by a missle?

If it was sent to Moscow, we can expect it to produce a signed confession in a couple of days. 

First recorded case of black boxes dying from Polonium-210.

[Malthus]

How is this for chutzpah? Putin blames Ukraine because the plane went down in Ukrainian terrory - this, while he's arming and supporting the rebels who most likely shot it down, and whose goal is to dispute Ukrainian control over that same territory!

"And without doubt the government of the territory on which it happened bears responsibility for this frightening tragedy," he said, adding that he had urged the Russian authorities to do everything possible to help with the investigation into the incident.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/17/putin-ukraine-malaysia_n_5597094.html