Son of Hunger Games Assistant Director kills 7 in rampage

[Ed Anger]

Blondes are evil.

[CountDeMoney]

I will agree that blondes are difficult to bag out in the wild.  Much more cunning and intuitive, you can't separate one from the herd as well.

[Ed Anger]

You need bait. Hundred dollar bills. Blondes are attracted to hundreds.

[Malthus]

His "manifesto"

http://www.scribd.com/doc/225936731/Untitled

Dammit, when I read the rantings of a maniac, I expect them to be less boring. 

[Darth Wagtaros]

I find this so frustrating. Lower your damn standards and get laid. He went to college and didn't get laid? How the hell does this happen?!

Easily in my case.

[Siege]

did Amanda Hess vote for Comrade Obama?

[Valmy]

I find this so frustrating. Lower your damn standards and get laid. He went to college and didn't get laid? How the hell does this happen?!

Pretty easily in my case

But, to be fair, I clearly was not as focused on this goal as he was.

[The Brain]

So?  Lots of people are 22 year old virgins.  Right?

I would expect not.

Damn.  I was a virgin until 23.  I didn't realize that was that big of a deal.

How was your spree?

[CountDeMoney]

Guns don't kill people, penises do.

Elliot Rodger's California shooting spree: further proof that misogyny kills
Attributing the deaths of six people and wounding of several others in Isla Vista to 'a madman' ignores a stark truth about our society
Jessica Valenti
theguardian.com

We should know this by now, but it bears repeating: misogyny kills.

On Friday night, a man – identified by police as Elliot Rodgers – allegedly seeking "retribution" against women whom he said sexually rejected him went on a killing spree in Isla Vista, California, killing six people and sending seven more to the hospital with serious gunshot injuries. Three of the bodies were reportedly removed from Rodger's apartment.

Before the mass murder he allegedly committed, 22-year-old Rodger – also said to have been killed Friday night – made several YouTube videos complaining that he was a virgin and that beautiful women wouldn't pay attention to him. In one, he calmly outlined how he would "slaughter every single spoiled, stuck-up, blond slut I see".

According to his family, Rodger was seeking psychiatric treatment. But to dismiss this as a case of a lone "madman" would be a mistake.

It not only stigmatizes the mentally ill – who are much more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators of it – but glosses over the role that misogyny and gun culture play (and just how foreseeable violence like this is) in a sexist society. After all, while it is unclear what role Rodger's reportedly poor mental health played in the alleged crime, the role of misogyny is obvious.

In his final video, Rodger opined:

    College is the time when everyone experiences those things such as sex and fun and pleasure, but in those years I've had to rot in loneliness, it's not fair ... I don't know why you girls aren't attracted to me but I will punish you all for it.

Rodger, like most young American men, was taught that he was entitled to sex and female attention. (Only last month, a young woman was allegedly stabbed to death for rejecting a different young man's prom invitation.) He believed this so fully that he described women's apathy toward him as an "injustice" and a "crime".

    You forced me to suffer all my life, now I will make you all suffer. I waited a long time for this. I'll give you exactly what you deserve, all of you. All you girls who rejected me, looked down upon me, you know, treated me like scum while you gave yourselves to other men.

Rodger was reportedly involved with the online men's rights movement: allegedly active on one forum and said to have been following several men's rights channels on YouTube. The language Rodger used in his videos against women – like referring to himself as an "alpha male" – is common rhetoric in such circles.

These communities are so virulently misogynist that the Southern Poverty Law Center, an organization that tracks hate groups, has been watching their movements for years.

Yet, as the artist Molly Crabapple pointed out on Twitter: "White terrorism is always blamed on guns, mental health – never poisonous ideology."

If we need to talk about this tragic shooting in terms of illness, though, let's start with talking about our cultural sickness – a sickness that refuses to see misogyny as anything other than inevitable.

It was reported on Saturday that Rodger's family had contacted the police about his violent and strange videos "weeks" before the shooting The family attorney said that police interviewed Rodger and thought he was a "perfectly polite, kind and wonderful human".

I have to wonder how much police dismissed Rodger's video rants because of the expectation that violent misogyny in young men is normal and expected.

"Dismissing violent misogynists as 'crazy' is a neat way of saying that violent misogyny is an individual problem, not a cultural one," feminist blogger Melissa McEwan tweeted.

The truth is that there is no such thing as a lone misogynist – they are created by our culture, and by communities that tells them that their hatred is both commonplace and justified.

So when we say that these things are unstoppable, what we are really saying is that we're unwilling to do the work to stop them. Violence against women does not have to be inevitable, but it is almost always foreseeable: what matters is what we do about it.

Rodger, like most young American men, was taught that he was entitled to sex and female attention.

I didn't get that memo.  Anybody get it?  Other than Ed?

[Ideologue]

Is it misogyny when a man leaves a woman who has gotten too fat or too old for his tastes?

[grumbler]

Rodger, like most young American men, was taught that he was entitled to sex and female attention.

I didn't get that memo.  Anybody get it?  Other than Ed?

Not me. Damn!  I thought I had to work pretty hard to get laid.  If only I'd known.

Wait... were the girls taught this, as well?  If not, somebody fucked up.

[Ed Anger]

I didn't get shit.

[Admiral Yi]

According to his family, Rodger was seeking psychiatric treatment. But to dismiss this as a case of a lone "madman" would be a mistake.

It not only stigmatizes the mentally ill...

You can't make this stuff up.

[Ideologue]

What I've seen from feminist writers and commenters is a conflation of four different categories of behavior:

1)not taking no for an answer;
2)awkward pick-up attempts (no one complains about successful ones);
3)the natural hurt feelings that come from rejection, either from awkward pick-up attempts, or from the collapse of an actual, preexisting relationship; and
4)distorted thinking resulting from social/sexual isolation (and often, as exemplified in this case, an underlying serious mental illness).

All of which can and should be discussed as separate issues rather than as one great big issue under the heading "men are taught to feel entitled to sex," which is almost on its face retarded.

[CountDeMoney]

According to his family, Rodger was seeking psychiatric treatment. But to dismiss this as a case of a lone "madman" would be a mistake.

It not only stigmatizes the mentally ill...

You can't make this stuff up.

I guess you didn't get the memo, either.

You know, what I've noticed throughout all the knee-jerk reactionary bullshit over this shooting, from the feminists to the PUA community, is the one angle that nobody's talking about:  that maybe, just maybe, women should take a single lesson away from this incident and be more sensitive and accommodating to clumsy, socially awkward and mildly dangerous potential suitors. 
Hell, the life you save may be your own.