Glaciers draining Antarctic basin destabilized, 4m level rise all but certain

[Norgy]

Scientific consensus vs grumbler and derspiess. 

[Sheilbh]

I mostly feel helpless on the issue of global warming and its effects.  I'm already a low-emissions person by developed world standards just by virtue of my income and lifestyle; thinking about it in depth makes me anxious; and I do find it pretty complicated to understand, other than that it's a major problem. 

So I have to admit I do unintentionally cabin it off in my mind and don't treat with the requisite seriousness, mostly as a mental protective measure.  I have a feeling others do this too.

Same.

[derspiess]

Scientific consensus vs grumbler and derspiess. 

I'm not making any arguments in this thread.

[Valmy]

Anyway if you do happen to seize power, let me be your driver.

God knows I would need one.

[Berkut]

I will give the benefit of the doubt and think it has to do with lack of knowledge. 

I think it has little to do with lack of knowledge and more to do with lack of immediacy. There is no immediate personal impact, so political tribal declarations and attempts at internet cleverness is more important than gaining an understanding of the facts of the matter.

+1

[Jacob]

Scientific consensus vs grumbler and derspiess. 

I'm not making any arguments in this thread.

Watt?

[Berkut]

While I don't want to excuse Russia, I cannot help but feel, at least a little bit, kind of "oh well" about whatever happens to the Ukraine.

Fundamentally, a state has to be strong enough to protect itself - at least at some nominal level that makes it's existence actually credible. The Ukraine is so thoroughly corrupt and screwed up that they seem to completely lack the ability to protect themselves from largely disorganized bandits, basically. Yes, I am aware that those are in fact a bunch of d-bags, some of which are being supported by Russia, if not actually Russian. But the reason that works is because the Ukraine is so incredibly weak that such a transparent farce is actually effective.

Russia is still the ogre here, but to some extent the Ukraine has largely defined itself as not being a viable political entity.

[Monoriu]

I have decided that I am not going to care about global warming.  There is nothing I can do that will have a material impact on the outcome. 

[Siege]

Climate Change: Fairy tales for the 21th century.

[derspiess]

I have decided that I am not going to care about global warming.  There is nothing I can do that will have a material impact on the outcome. 

Buy carbon offsets.  The ones I sell come with a fancy certificate made from hemp paper.

[Siege]

I should really get into the Green industry.
Those faggots are making billions!

[Valmy]

I missed you Siege 

[The Brain]

While I don't want to excuse Russia, I cannot help but feel, at least a little bit, kind of "oh well" about whatever happens to the Ukraine.

Fundamentally, a state has to be strong enough to protect itself - at least at some nominal level that makes it's existence actually credible. The Ukraine is so thoroughly corrupt and screwed up that they seem to completely lack the ability to protect themselves from largely disorganized bandits, basically. Yes, I am aware that those are in fact a bunch of d-bags, some of which are being supported by Russia, if not actually Russian. But the reason that works is because the Ukraine is so incredibly weak that such a transparent farce is actually effective.

Russia is still the ogre here, but to some extent the Ukraine has largely defined itself as not being a viable political entity.

You do realize that climate change will affect other countries than Ukraine?

[Capetan Mihali]

Russia is still the ogre here, but to some extent the Ukraine has largely defined itself as not being a viable political entity.

You do realize that climate change will affect other countries than Ukraine?

Ukraine's failure to defend against the continued encroachment of climate change is just further proof that it is no longer a viable political entity.  

[Razgovory]

Oh my, Grumbler is in fine form today.