Ebola and other Epidemics, Inadequate Healthcare Threatens Millions

Started by mongers, March 23, 2014, 04:48:59 PM

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mongers

Quote from: derspiess on October 01, 2014, 04:37:43 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 01, 2014, 04:12:11 PM
Yeah, they're an odd bunch, that's a group of them on a forum I sometimes frequent. They always act like the latest concern is the big one, the calamity that'll prove them right, in a way it's like wish fulfilment.  <_<

It's fun to witness sometimes.  I have a Facebook friend I went to high school with and she is a big time prepper.  Anytime the electricity goes out she's all like "GET USED TO IT PEOPLE".

Yeah, it's a weird mindset, I suspect it eventually makes some of the ill in the long run. Oh and the tendency seems to for some women to be of that way minded. :gasp:
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Ed Anger

Quote from: derspiess on October 01, 2014, 04:04:23 PM
So apparently the preppers are in full hoarding mode, thanks to this Texas case. 

Ed: how many months' food do you have stockpiled??

Enough
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Admiral Yi


CountDeMoney


mongers

Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 01, 2014, 05:44:50 PM
A survival ration commercial just aired on CNN.  :lol:

What really winds them up, is if you suggest they put their faith in their fellow man, they're so wound-up in the little invented worlds, counting their gas canisters, bottles of water and canned food, they don't ever see anything positive left in the wider world.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

CountDeMoney

Quote from: mongers on October 01, 2014, 05:50:59 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 01, 2014, 05:44:50 PM
A survival ration commercial just aired on CNN.  :lol:

What really winds them up, is if you suggest they put their faith in their fellow man, they're so wound-up in the little invented worlds, counting their gas canisters, bottles of water and canned food, they don't ever see anything positive left in the wider world.

Shit, I get that job in Vermont, my ass is going to be hoarding like a motherfucker.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: mongers on October 01, 2014, 05:50:59 PM
What really winds them up, is if you suggest they put their faith in their fellow man, they're so wound-up in the little invented worlds, counting their gas canisters, bottles of water and canned food, they don't ever see anything positive left in the wider world.

Why all the vitriol?  They're not harming you.  Or anyone for that matter.

Ed Anger

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Josephus

Civis Romanus Sum<br /><br />"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011

mongers

Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 01, 2014, 06:03:02 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 01, 2014, 05:50:59 PM
What really winds them up, is if you suggest they put their faith in their fellow man, they're so wound-up in the little invented worlds, counting their gas canisters, bottles of water and canned food, they don't ever see anything positive left in the wider world.

Why all the vitriol?  They're not harming you.  Or anyone for that matter.

That's not vitriol, but I hope a reasonably accurate sumation of some of their worldviews. Pity the overriding emotion, as what they put 'faith' in is self-limiting and self-defeating.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Fate

Pretty depressing story on how Mr. Duncan got Ebola. He helped carry his pregnant, ebola infected neighbor to the hospital where she was turned away because there was no space.

Quote from: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/world/africa/ebola-victim-texas-thomas-eric-duncan.html

MONROVIA, Liberia — A man who flew to Dallas and was later found to have the Ebola virus was identified by senior Liberian government officials on Wednesday as Thomas Eric Duncan, a resident of Monrovia in his mid-40s.

Mr. Duncan, the first person to develop symptoms outside Africa during the current epidemic, had direct contact with a woman stricken by Ebola on Sept. 15, just four days before he left Liberia for the United States, the woman's parents and Mr. Duncan's neighbors said.

In a pattern often seen here in Monrovia, the Liberian capital, the family of the woman, Marthalene Williams, 19, took her by taxi to a hospital with Mr. Duncan's help on Sept. 15 after failing to get an ambulance, said her parents, Emmanuel and Amie Williams. She was convulsing and seven months pregnant, they said.

Turned away from a hospital for lack of space in its Ebola treatment ward, the family said it took Ms. Williams back home in the evening, and that she died hours later, around 3 a.m.

Mr. Duncan, who was a family friend and also a tenant in a house owned by the Williams family, rode in the taxi in the front passenger seat while Ms. Williams, her father and her brother, Sonny Boy, shared the back seat, her parents said. Mr. Duncan then helped carry Ms. Williams, who was no longer able to walk, back to the family home that evening, neighbors said.

"He was holding her by the legs, the pa was holding her arms and Sonny Boy was holding her back," said Arren Seyou, 31, who witnessed the scene and occupies the room next to Mr. Duncan's.

Sonny Boy, 21, also started getting sick about a week ago, his family said, around the same time that Mr. Duncan first started showing symptoms.

In a sign of how furiously the disease can spread, an ambulance had come to their house on Wednesday to pick up Sonny Boy. Another ambulance picked up a woman and her daughter from the same area, and a team of body collectors came to retrieve the body of yet another woman — all four appeared to have been infected in a chain reaction started by Marthalene Williams.

A few minutes after the ambulance left, the parents got a call telling them that Sonny Boy had died on the way to the hospital.

Mr. Duncan had lived in the neighborhood, called 72nd SKD Boulevard, for the past two years, living by himself in a small room that he rented from the Williams couple. He had told that them and his neighbors that his son lived in the United States, played baseball, and was trying to get him to come to America.

For the past year, Mr. Duncan had worked as a driver at Safeway Cargo, the Liberian customs clearance agent for FedEx, said Henry Brunson, the company's manager.

In an office with a large FedEx sign outside the building in downtown Monrovia, Mr. Brunson said that Mr. Duncan quit abruptly on Sept. 4, giving no reason. But Mr. Brunson said he knew that Mr. Duncan had family members in the United States as well.

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"His sister came from the United States and he asked for a day off so that he could go meet her at the Mamba Point Hotel," Mr. Brunson said, mentioning a hotel popular among foreigners. "He quit a few weeks after that."

The way Mr. Duncan appears to have been infected with the Ebola virus is typical in Monrovia, where the epidemic is spreading rapidly and most people are dying at home because of a lack of ambulances and Ebola treatment centers. At home, they spread the virus to family and friends who are taking care of them.

Ms. Williams's family said they had no choice but to take her back home after being turned away from John F. Kennedy Memorial Hospital, first at its maternity ward and then at its Ebola center. While she was sick at home, she appeared to have also infected a neighbor, Sarah Smith, whose corpse was picked up Wednesday.

Neighbors said that an ailing Ms. Williams used to visit Ms. Smith, who lived in a pink house next door. After Ms. Smith fell ill, a friend of hers living nearby started coming over to take care of her. That friend, Marie Wread, did chores for Ms. Smith, including washing her clothes.

On Wednesday, a visibly ill Ms. Wread was taken by ambulance to a hospital; her daughter, Mercy, 9, joined her in the ambulance, though she was not showing symptoms herself. Other neighbors, fearful of the growing contagion in their neighborhood, had insisted angrily that Mercy be taken away.

While Ms. Williams appears to have been the first patient in her area of the neighborhood, members of a local volunteer Ebola task force say they believe that the virus was brought in by an outsider. Ms. Williams rarely left home because of her pregnancy, they said. But a cousin who came to visit Ms. Williams later died of Ebola after apparently being infected by her mother, who is now in a Ebola treatment center, members of the task force said.

"That's how Ebola came here," said Mark Kpoto, 21, a task force member.




I understand his desire travel to America ASAP given what he'd just experienced.

garbon

Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 01, 2014, 05:57:02 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 01, 2014, 05:50:59 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 01, 2014, 05:44:50 PM
A survival ration commercial just aired on CNN.  :lol:

What really winds them up, is if you suggest they put their faith in their fellow man, they're so wound-up in the little invented worlds, counting their gas canisters, bottles of water and canned food, they don't ever see anything positive left in the wider world.

Shit, I get that job in Vermont, my ass is going to be hoarding like a motherfucker.

Well hopefully of something useful. Doubt hoarding board games will help much.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: garbon on October 01, 2014, 07:24:43 PM
Well hopefully of something useful. Doubt hoarding board games will help much.

You're not invited to the fallout shelter.  :mad:

Ed Anger

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

garbon

Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 01, 2014, 07:32:37 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 01, 2014, 07:24:43 PM
Well hopefully of something useful. Doubt hoarding board games will help much.

You're not invited to the fallout shelter.  :mad:

Cold, dawg, cold. :(
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.