Quick Quagmire Poll (Iran, Mar 26 - 31)

Started by Jacob, March 26, 2026, 09:30:11 PM

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Will Trump put boots on the ground in Iranian territory in the next three months?

No. The troop movement is purely posturing. He will not use ground troops in Iranian territory.
2 (6.7%)
Yes, but only special forces quick strikes before withdrawing and similar. No ground will be held.
8 (26.7%)
Yes, he will take and hold Iranian territory with limited objectives. He'll stick to those objectives and not be drawn further in.
4 (13.3%)
Yes. He'll strike with a limited force and limited objectives, but one thing will lead to another and the American commitment will continue to grow into large, messy deployment.
14 (46.7%)
Yes, but he'll somehow rustle up the forces for a major deployment to take and hold ground at a large scale.
1 (3.3%)
No, because the conflict will come to an end before such a scenario becomes necessary.
1 (3.3%)

Total Members Voted: 30

Voting closed: March 31, 2026, 09:30:11 PM

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crazy canuck

#60
May 19, 2026, 09:29:27 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 19, 2026, 09:26:53 AMAssuming the US is out the picture, were PRC to invade Taiwan, I suspect that the most likely European response would be, in substance, this is really regrettable, but let's go along with whatever outcome minimizes economic disruption.

Yep, there would be strongly worded diplomatic messages of deep regret, for about a week.  That is the extent of the ability of Europe to project power.
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In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

PJL

#62
May 19, 2026, 11:05:32 AM
To be fair, this is not just an issue at the national leader/politics level issue but a voter issue as well. As long as the voters can get the bread and circuses at a fair price, any notion of helping out others in getting their freedoms that disrupts that, can go to hell. We have seen this amply enough in the last few years at various elections. The only exception would be if they are the ones threatened.

Sheilbh

#63
May 19, 2026, 11:08:50 AM
Quote from: PJL on May 19, 2026, 11:05:32 AMTo be fair, this is not just an issue at the national leader/politics level issue but a voter issue as well. As long as the voters can get the bread and circuses at a fair price, any notion of helping out others in getting their freedoms that disrupts that, can go to hell. We have seen this amply enough in the last few years at various elections. The only exception would be if they are the ones threatened.
Although also very much an issue of national leaders/politics as our exposure and dependencies are not purely neutral apolitical facts. They are the result of Chinese policy and industrial strategy. There are alternatives but they'll take time, focus and may be more costly so there's a trade-off politicians aren't willing to make or even articulate to the public. See for example Japan's successful policy of building an entire supply chain of raw earths that is not exposed to China - which took 15 years of fairly steady policy between state and business.
Let's bomb Russia!

Norgy

#64
May 19, 2026, 03:56:05 PM
Ironically, a lot of the bread and circus policies in Europe are a result of PRC industrial policy. Unionised European labour is more pricey than Chinese labour. And de-industrialised Europe does need some bread and circus.  :ph34r:
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