Obamacare and you

[crazy canuck]

Then without watching the video I'll vote "nut".

Basically, he says that health care in the U.S. is too expensive (other countries have equal or very similar level at much reduced costs) and that a number of factors contribute to it, not just one monolithic item (and that some things touted as cost drivers are almost negligible). Also, that reform will be long and hard.

Yes, but I think the big point he makes is that single payor systems are able to control costs much more efficiently as most people or entities in the US cannot negotiate for a competitive effective price on their own.

[merithyn]

Basically, he says that health care in the U.S. is too expensive (other countries have equal or very similar level at much reduced costs) and that a number of factors contribute to it, not just one monolithic item (and that some things touted as cost drivers are almost negligible). Also, that reform will be long and hard.

I thought he undercut his thesis with his comments about lack of bargaining ability.

You disagree with that part? I thought that that was a gimme.

[Admiral Yi]

You disagree with that part? I thought that that was a gimme.

I think he undercut his thesis about the complexity of the problem, the many contributing factors, the hard work to fix it, etc., by the way he talked about bargaining.

[Ed Anger]

I agree, and in the example I gave, I am 100% certain she is faking it.  To give you another example, she used to claim her back hurt so bad that she just laid in bed all night and weekend, which is odd since she used to bug me nonstop on Facebook about going out on my boat.

Ah, kentuckians and the so called 'crazy check'. They do love them some SSI checks.

[derspiess]

West Virginians, too.  See: http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/The_Wild_and_Wonderful_Whites_of_West_Virginia/70117032?sod=search-autocomplete

[Ed Anger]

West Virginians, too.  See: http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/The_Wild_and_Wonderful_Whites_of_West_Virginia/70117032?sod=search-autocomplete

I want a crazy check too. 

[The Brain]

*checks* Yup.

[merithyn]

I want a crazy check too. 

Not me. Even with the pittance that I make, that check isn't nearly enough to live on.

[derspiess]

I want a crazy check too. 

Not me. Even with the pittance that I make, that check isn't nearly enough to live on.

Then supplement your crazy check with re-selling prescription painkillers, like they do in Appalachia.

[Ed Anger]

I want a crazy check too. 

Not me. Even with the pittance that I make, that check isn't nearly enough to live on.

Your check would go to your husband. 

[Eddie Teach]

He's not crazy, just Canadian.

[merithyn]

I want a crazy check too. 

Not me. Even with the pittance that I make, that check isn't nearly enough to live on.

Your check would go to your husband. 

[Ed Anger]

They don't have time for your back talk down there.

[Ideologue]

That's a total joke to call it the "new welfare". There's a massive difference between the two.

Then what reason would you give for skyrocketing disability claims?

Technology and kinder society prevents the ordinary number of people from keeling over, dying.

[CountDeMoney]

Technology and kinder society prevents the ordinary number of people from keeling over, dying.

Republicans are trying their best, though.