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Changing The Creepy Guy Narrative

Started by garbon, July 18, 2013, 08:39:33 AM

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Razgovory

I creep people of both sexes out just coming into the room.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

The Brain

Quote from: Razgovory on July 18, 2013, 01:39:32 PM
I creep people of both sexes out just coming into the room.

Can you do it from the street? You should be in porn.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

garbon

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 18, 2013, 01:38:44 PM
Speesh is saying that if that 20th woman stopped responding, the lounge lizard would eventually give up.

Not true, as he even said the problem would still likely continue, I guess he's arguing that some non-insignificant portion would give up, but the point seems moot and rather uninteresting given that we'll never be in a world where all targets rebuff the advances.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on July 18, 2013, 01:33:13 PM
Both guys came across as wankers. 

Oh I'm certainly not saying that anyone should emulate the writer (and his writing style is certainly grating in places) but I just thought it was an amusing scenario.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Admiral Yi

On a different note, living in a gay city like DC and being hit on by dudes really helps you understand the other perspective.

Jacob

Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on July 18, 2013, 01:33:13 PM
Both guys came across as wankers.

In your opinion did the writer come across as a wanker because of how he acted in the scenario in question, or because of how he described it when writing about it?

Ideologue

I did like it, garb.  I agree with the thesis and I enjoyed the story.

That said, I don't think the story illustrates the thesis well.  The woman was not unclear, and the man had no reasonable hope.  The only thing the story really illustrates is that assholes exist.  I'm not surprised.

What I've always been against like is lack of clarity, which is why Internet dating > trying to pick up women in real life.  So I'm fully onboard with the idea that women should have weapons-free against guys hitting on them, and vice versa.

I'm not even sure the woman I was talking to the other day was actually trying to pick me up, even though I understood her to be dropping hints about a dinner date, because my understanding will always be mediated through human limitations.
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Ideologue

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 18, 2013, 01:48:42 PM
On a different note, living in a gay city like DC and being hit on by dudes really helps you understand the other perspective.

That's true.  It ranges from validating to annoying to threatening.

All in all, though, I think it's a better way to live, but being neither a woman nor gay, that way is denied me.
Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

Barrister

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 18, 2013, 01:48:42 PM
On a different note, living in a gay city like DC and being hit on by dudes really helps you understand the other perspective.

Did they just walk up and hit on you?

A couple of times I've heard 'so and so gay dude was asking about you', but never hit on out of the blue.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Barrister on July 18, 2013, 01:56:48 PM
Did they just walk up and hit on you?

A couple of times I've heard 'so and so gay dude was asking about you', but never hit on out of the blue.

The urinal come on was pretty common.

MadImmortalMan

I got the "have you been working out?" line a few times from guys in SF.
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Jacob

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on July 18, 2013, 02:34:14 PM
I got the "have you been working out?" line a few times from guys in SF.

"Do you like to party?"

Maximus

Quote from: Jacob on July 18, 2013, 02:35:40 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on July 18, 2013, 02:34:14 PM
I got the "have you been working out?" line a few times from guys in SF.

"Do you like to party?"
"Would you like a blowjob?"

Admiral Yi

Hey Grab On, a homo question for you: do pitchers usually make the first move, or not necessarily?