Changing The Creepy Guy Narrative

[merithyn]

"Would you like a blowjob?"

Of course, you're hit on all the time by gay men... usually our waiters. 

[Eddie Teach]

They don't care that he's having dinner with mom?

[Admiral Yi]

Of course, you're hit on all the time by gay men... usually our waiters. 

The hockey doo is like catnip to gay men.

[Malthus]

The problem isn't the guys who have "no problem" with getting shot down by 19 girls. The problem is with the guys who definitely have a problem with being shot down.

I don't know. I think there is still something wrong at the dudes who catcall women insofar as it makes those women uncomfortable.

Catcalling isn't a legitimate pass. No wolf-whistling construction worker seriously hopes that the leggy blonde passing on the sidewalk is going to actually give him her number. 

What makes the guy in the article creepy isn't that he asked her what she was reading etc., it is that he didn't stop doing it when she clearly indicated she wasn't interested.

Seems all in the same vein of behavior though (although cat calls are further down the spectrum) of giving non-desired attention.  Even from moment one (headphones on, reading book, drawn in posture, on public transport!), it was pretty clear that she wasn't looking to start a chat session.

Meh. I've had women (and men) ask me about the book I was reading on the subway, in some cases merely because they were a fan of the authour or something ("You are reading The Master and Margarita? That's, like, my favorite book!" one lady remarked a year or so ago when I was re-reading it ... given she was about 25 years younger than me, and was with her boyfriend, I doubt she was hitting on me  ).

That doesn't bother me in the least: in fact, it can be cool.

What makes it uncool, and fast, is if they have an obvious ulterior motive, and (this is the important part) won't take a hint to go away if you aren't interested in their ulterior motive. I once had to actually get off the subway well before my stop to avoid some hardcore "witnessing" that started as an ostensibly friendly chat about what I was reading. 

[The Brain]

You know what I hate? Beggars.

[Camerus]

Both guys came across as wankers.

In your opinion did the writer come across as a wanker because of how he acted in the scenario in question, or because of how he described it when writing about it?

The writing style has a lot to do with it, but I found his whole approach a bit "precious" and affected.

[The Brain]

How many "creeps" are wingmen for retarded knights in shining armor types?

[Eddie Teach]

The man is being held responsible. He gets his feelings hurt regularly and occasionally has to deal with some gay twit writer. Should he be punished worse than that for the crime of trying to talk to somebody?

[merithyn]

How many "creeps" are wingmen for retarded knights in shining armor types?

That would actually be a pretty neat little scheme, if pulled off well.

[Phillip V]

If you be polite to a creep, he is more likely to rape/murder you.

[mongers]

Guess I'll have to reconsider my modus operandi. 

[garbon]

You know what I hate? Beggars.

Sometimes you just gotta be magnanimous.

[Josquius]

I've seen bitching about this sort of thing elsewhere recently. Its weird considering most advice for guys is that they need to try and go against their natural instsinct and do more of this stuff, not less.

[MadBurgerMaker]

I've seen bitching about this sort of thing elsewhere recently. Its weird considering most advice for guys is that they need to try and go against their natural instsinct and do more of this stuff, not less.

The advice is to harass women until some dork comes to save them?

[Jacob]

I've seen bitching about this sort of thing elsewhere recently. Its weird considering most advice for guys is that they need to try and go against their natural instsinct and do more of this stuff, not less.

Really? It's weird to you? You can't distinguish between harassment and hitting on someone in a non-harassing way?