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Changing The Creepy Guy Narrative

Started by garbon, July 18, 2013, 08:39:33 AM

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The Brain

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I don't. :blush:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Maybe you were thinking I was like Mart with his feet?

Ethnic gay sex is pretty fucking kinky.

Is Sweden still in the 19th century? Here in the 21st, it is pretty common.

You're just trolling now.

Serious question.

We already established in this thread that most or all people like kinky fuckery, so it being common says next to nothing about it being kinky or not.

Well whoever established that has trouble with english:

relating to, having, or appealing to unconventional tastes especially in sex

OK grumbler.

Can you explain for me then what definition of kinky we're using so that I can understand you? Only fair if you are going to say I'm kinky when I think I'm not.

If you don't know kinky when you see it then you are beyond help.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Ed Anger

Ed does the anti woman sthick= cheeky and fun

Spicy does it= ABOMINATION

:D
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garbon

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I don't. :blush:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Maybe you were thinking I was like Mart with his feet?

Ethnic gay sex is pretty fucking kinky.

Is Sweden still in the 19th century? Here in the 21st, it is pretty common.

You're just trolling now.

Serious question.

We already established in this thread that most or all people like kinky fuckery, so it being common says next to nothing about it being kinky or not.

Well whoever established that has trouble with english:

relating to, having, or appealing to unconventional tastes especially in sex

OK grumbler.

Can you explain for me then what definition of kinky we're using so that I can understand you? Only fair if you are going to say I'm kinky when I think I'm not.

If you don't know kinky when you see it then you are beyond help.

I'm trying to understand kinky as you see it. :)
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Caliga

Quote from: Ed Anger on July 18, 2013, 12:37:58 PM
Ed does the anti woman sthick= cheeky and fun

Spicy does it= ABOMINATION

:D
That's because nobody takes you seriously. :)
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garbon

Quote from: Caliga on July 18, 2013, 12:39:04 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 18, 2013, 12:37:58 PM
Ed does the anti woman sthick= cheeky and fun

Spicy does it= ABOMINATION

:D
That's because nobody takes you seriously. :)

:yes:

And Cal is an expert on that.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

The Brain

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I don't. :blush:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Maybe you were thinking I was like Mart with his feet?

Ethnic gay sex is pretty fucking kinky.

Is Sweden still in the 19th century? Here in the 21st, it is pretty common.

You're just trolling now.

Serious question.

We already established in this thread that most or all people like kinky fuckery, so it being common says next to nothing about it being kinky or not.

Well whoever established that has trouble with english:

relating to, having, or appealing to unconventional tastes especially in sex

OK grumbler.

Can you explain for me then what definition of kinky we're using so that I can understand you? Only fair if you are going to say I'm kinky when I think I'm not.

If you don't know kinky when you see it then you are beyond help.

I'm trying to understand kinky as you see it. :)

Wait, do you want a productive conversation?
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Caliga

Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:39:30 PM
And Cal is an expert on that.
Actually people seem to take some of what I say seriously, since on some subjects I get spiess-like reactions.
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garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Quote from: Caliga on July 18, 2013, 12:42:01 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:39:30 PM
And Cal is an expert on that.
Actually people seem to take some of what I say seriously, since on some subjects I get spiess-like reactions.

Well true, I do take your HR comments seriously.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

The Brain

Quote from: Caliga on July 18, 2013, 12:42:01 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:39:30 PM
And Cal is an expert on that.
Actually people seem to take some of what I say seriously, since on some subjects I get spiess-like reactions.

I am often offended by your brewing and planting comments.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Caliga

Quote from: The Brain on July 18, 2013, 12:43:22 PM
I am often offended by your brewing and planting comments.
Likewise, your comments about nuclear engineering often cause me great consternation.
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Jacob

Quote from: Ed Anger on July 18, 2013, 12:37:58 PM
Ed does the anti woman sthick= cheeky and fun

Spicy does it= ABOMINATION

:D

Well, it's clear that you're doing it purely for the reaction, whatever your personal beliefs.

With derSpiess the line between sincerity and trolling is harder to pick out.

merithyn

Quote from: Jacob on July 18, 2013, 12:36:21 PM
Quote from: derspiess on July 18, 2013, 12:24:53 PMI'm just saying that the women who do respond positively to this behavior encourage the behavior & make it worse for the majority who do not.

So you're laying the blame for creeps being creeps at women rather than the creeps. Who don't you think the creeps should be held responsible for their own actions?

QuoteBut I'm sorry to challenge the notion that no women bear any responsibility for any of their own problems.

... but that's not what you're doing, nor are you sorry :huh:

While I don't agree with him, I understand what he's trying to say... I think. The problem is that he's blaming everyone with a vagina for the actions of a few who aren't offended by a particular thing.

So basically, so long as some women like squid, every woman is going to be given squid - forcibly if need be - until no one likes them. Because that's the logical way to do things. :)
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Camerus

Both guys came across as wankers. 

Admiral Yi

Quote from: merithyn on July 18, 2013, 01:26:20 PM
While I don't agree with him, I understand what he's trying to say... I think. The problem is that he's blaming everyone with a vagina for the actions of a few who aren't offended by a particular thing.

So basically, so long as some women like squid, every woman is going to be given squid - forcibly if need be - until no one likes them. Because that's the logical way to do things. :)

No, that's not it.  It's an information asymmetry problem.

1 in 20 women will respond positively to the subway lounge lizard (for the sake of argument).  The lounge lizard can't tell which women belong to that group.  So the lounge lizard will keep doing his thing, bothering 19/20 women, because he knows that somewhere along the way he will run into that 20th woman.

Speesh is saying that if that 20th woman stopped responding, the lounge lizard would eventually give up.