Changing The Creepy Guy Narrative

[The Brain]

I don't.

Maybe you were thinking I was like Mart with his feet?

Ethnic gay sex is pretty fucking kinky.

Is Sweden still in the 19th century? Here in the 21st, it is pretty common.

You're just trolling now.

Serious question.

We already established in this thread that most or all people like kinky fuckery, so it being common says next to nothing about it being kinky or not.

Well whoever established that has trouble with english:

relating to, having, or appealing to unconventional tastes especially in sex

OK grumbler.

Can you explain for me then what definition of kinky we're using so that I can understand you? Only fair if you are going to say I'm kinky when I think I'm not.

If you don't know kinky when you see it then you are beyond help.

[Ed Anger]

Ed does the anti woman sthick= cheeky and fun

Spicy does it= ABOMINATION

[garbon]

I don't.

Maybe you were thinking I was like Mart with his feet?

Ethnic gay sex is pretty fucking kinky.

Is Sweden still in the 19th century? Here in the 21st, it is pretty common.

You're just trolling now.

Serious question.

We already established in this thread that most or all people like kinky fuckery, so it being common says next to nothing about it being kinky or not.

Well whoever established that has trouble with english:

relating to, having, or appealing to unconventional tastes especially in sex

OK grumbler.

Can you explain for me then what definition of kinky we're using so that I can understand you? Only fair if you are going to say I'm kinky when I think I'm not.

If you don't know kinky when you see it then you are beyond help.

I'm trying to understand kinky as you see it.

[Caliga]

Ed does the anti woman sthick= cheeky and fun

Spicy does it= ABOMINATION

That's because nobody takes you seriously.

[garbon]

Ed does the anti woman sthick= cheeky and fun

Spicy does it= ABOMINATION

That's because nobody takes you seriously.

And Cal is an expert on that.

[The Brain]

I don't.

Maybe you were thinking I was like Mart with his feet?

Ethnic gay sex is pretty fucking kinky.

Is Sweden still in the 19th century? Here in the 21st, it is pretty common.

You're just trolling now.

Serious question.

We already established in this thread that most or all people like kinky fuckery, so it being common says next to nothing about it being kinky or not.

Well whoever established that has trouble with english:

relating to, having, or appealing to unconventional tastes especially in sex

OK grumbler.

Can you explain for me then what definition of kinky we're using so that I can understand you? Only fair if you are going to say I'm kinky when I think I'm not.

If you don't know kinky when you see it then you are beyond help.

I'm trying to understand kinky as you see it.

Wait, do you want a productive conversation?

[Caliga]

And Cal is an expert on that.

Actually people seem to take some of what I say seriously, since on some subjects I get spiess-like reactions.

[garbon]

Yes, deconstruct it for me.

[garbon]

And Cal is an expert on that.

Actually people seem to take some of what I say seriously, since on some subjects I get spiess-like reactions.

Well true, I do take your HR comments seriously.

[The Brain]

And Cal is an expert on that.

Actually people seem to take some of what I say seriously, since on some subjects I get spiess-like reactions.

I am often offended by your brewing and planting comments.

[Caliga]

I am often offended by your brewing and planting comments.

Likewise, your comments about nuclear engineering often cause me great consternation.

[Jacob]

Ed does the anti woman sthick= cheeky and fun

Spicy does it= ABOMINATION

Well, it's clear that you're doing it purely for the reaction, whatever your personal beliefs.

With derSpiess the line between sincerity and trolling is harder to pick out.

[merithyn]

I'm just saying that the women who do respond positively to this behavior encourage the behavior & make it worse for the majority who do not.

So you're laying the blame for creeps being creeps at women rather than the creeps. Who don't you think the creeps should be held responsible for their own actions?

But I'm sorry to challenge the notion that no women bear any responsibility for any of their own problems.

... but that's not what you're doing, nor are you sorry

While I don't agree with him, I understand what he's trying to say... I think. The problem is that he's blaming everyone with a vagina for the actions of a few who aren't offended by a particular thing.

So basically, so long as some women like squid, every woman is going to be given squid - forcibly if need be - until no one likes them. Because that's the logical way to do things.

[Camerus]

Both guys came across as wankers. 

[Admiral Yi]

While I don't agree with him, I understand what he's trying to say... I think. The problem is that he's blaming everyone with a vagina for the actions of a few who aren't offended by a particular thing.

So basically, so long as some women like squid, every woman is going to be given squid - forcibly if need be - until no one likes them. Because that's the logical way to do things.

No, that's not it.  It's an information asymmetry problem.

1 in 20 women will respond positively to the subway lounge lizard (for the sake of argument).  The lounge lizard can't tell which women belong to that group.  So the lounge lizard will keep doing his thing, bothering 19/20 women, because he knows that somewhere along the way he will run into that 20th woman.

Speesh is saying that if that 20th woman stopped responding, the lounge lizard would eventually give up.