The Languish Obama Approval Poll

[garbon]

Disapprove.  Big time.  Can hardly stand to look at the guy these days.  But most of the things I disapprove of the Republicans will also do so it does not really matter much.

This.

Although for the rest of the shysters, I'd say I'm disappointed but not surprised by Obama's inability to get even his own party on board.

[HVC]

Uh oh, valmy's turning separatist

[derspiess]

What did you want to find out? 

First, I wanted to find out if the 'final' results (poll voting here usually tapers off after a couple days) match the % I had in my mind based on conversations involving Obama.

Secondly, I wanted to see how much the Republic of Languishia results skew from numbers inside the US. 

Just pure curiosity.  I don't really have a secret agenda here.

That the board heavily frequented by foreigners would approve of Obama when over a candidate who's party is deeply out of synch with the rest of the industrialized world?

It's not about Romney, Dubya, or anyone else.  How hard is that for you guys to get through your heads?  It's about whether or not you approve of the job Obama has done. 

[garbon]

That the board heavily frequented by foreigners would approve of Obama when over a candidate who's party is deeply out of synch with the rest of the industrialized world?

It's not about Romney, Dubya, or anyone else.  How hard is that for you guys to get through your heads?  It's about whether or not you approve of the job Obama has done. 

Some people are unable to think without comparisons...analogies.

[DGuller]

To some extent, approval must be relative.  In order to have a realistic assessment of someone's performance, you have to compare it against a realistic benchmark.  How likely is it that somebody else, from the same or another party, could've done a better job?

[garbon]

I don't think that's how most appeal answer approval questions. After all, if you think that realistically that everyone out there would do a shit job (and some perhaps worse, some perhaps slightly better), does that mean you approve of the current person in the role?

[Razgovory]

It's not about Romney, Dubya, or anyone else.  How hard is that for you guys to get through your heads?  It's about whether or not you approve of the job Obama has done.

You can't say someone is good or bad without an implicit comparison to something else or else the statement is meaningless.  If I were to say "Derspeiss is a good person", I am in fact saying that he is good in relation to my standard for human beings which is informed by my observation of other human beings.  While if I say "the sun is a good sun" it is not really that meaningful since I've never lived under another sun.

[Razgovory]

I don't think that's how most appeal answer approval questions. After all, if you think that realistically that everyone out there would do a shit job (and some perhaps worse, some perhaps slightly better), does that mean you approve of the current person in the role?

Yes.

[Sheilbh]

I'm with Garbon.  This seems a lot of sophistic nonsense.

I approve.

[garbon]

Also not sure how I turned "people" into "appeal"

[Razgovory]

Also not sure how I turned "people" into "appeal"

By removing one "e" and one "o", then adding in two "a"s.  After that you mixed all the letters up.

[derspiess]

To some extent, approval must be relative.  In order to have a realistic assessment of someone's performance, you have to compare it against a realistic benchmark.  How likely is it that somebody else, from the same or another party, could've done a better job?

I'm simply asking if people here approve or disapprove of the job Obama has done.  If someone *has* to compare him to Bush or other past presidents in order to formulate an opinion, fine.  But to me it would come down to whether the president has advanced policies I agree with and think are important, how he has handled unexpected events, whether he has kept certain campaign promises, etc.

What I really don't understand is comparing him to Romney or other Republicans that have not held the office of President.  To me, that sounds like rationalizing.

[derspiess]

I'm with Garbon.  This seems a lot of sophistic nonsense.

I knew I should've turned off comments.

I approve.

That's all I asked for-- thank you.

[Berkut]

Approval rate can be misleading.  You can disapprove Obama's performance while never contemplating anything but voting for him again in 2012. 

Indeed. Voted disapprove, sure as hell won't vote for Romney though.

[grumbler]

I mildly disapprove of his job performance, but not enough to vote "disapprove" so I voted Jaronove.

Moar subtlety in polls, plz.