The Languish Obama Approval Poll

[garbon]

I'm with Garbon.  This seems a lot of sophistic nonsense.

I knew I should've turned off comments.

I approve.

That's all I asked for-- thank you.

Okay, really, wtf? Sheilbh and I agree that Dgul made ridiculous comments and you use this as an opportunity to act as though languish is your on private domain?  I don't think many of us really care what you asked for.

[DGuller]

I don't think that's how most appeal answer approval questions. After all, if you think that realistically that everyone out there would do a shit job (and some perhaps worse, some perhaps slightly better), does that mean you approve of the current person in the role?

Approval has to depend on reasonable expectations, and reasonable expectations have to depend on what is actually achievable.  If no person can do better, then probably the current person's performance is a good gauge of what is achievable.  If that's not satisfactory, then you need to change the system rather than the person.

[garbon]

I don't think that's how most appeal answer approval questions. After all, if you think that realistically that everyone out there would do a shit job (and some perhaps worse, some perhaps slightly better), does that mean you approve of the current person in the role?

Approval has to depend on reasonable expectations, and reasonable expectations have to depend on what is actually achievable.  If no person can do better, then probably the current person's performance is a good gauge of what is achievable.  If that's not satisfactory, then you need to change the system rather than the person.

I don't like to settle for less. "Approving" mediocrity because most of the contenders were mediocre is pathetic and certainly not a system I'd like to adopt.

[DGuller]

I don't like to settle for less. "Approving" mediocrity because most of the contenders were mediocre is pathetic and certainly not a system I'd like to adopt.

Setting expectations that cannot be achieved can make you feel tough and demanding, but in actuality that would just make you an idiot.  I can be very demanding and set a goal of 10% annual GDP growth, and disapprove of any president who fails it, but what would my disapproval actually mean?  Nothing at all, obviously, since a question that always has one answer is a meaningless question and informs of nothing.

[dps]

Approval rate can be misleading.  You can disapprove Obama's performance while never contemplating anything but voting for him again in 2012.

Oddly, I'm the exact opposite of that. 

[Berkut]

I don't think that's how most appeal answer approval questions. After all, if you think that realistically that everyone out there would do a shit job (and some perhaps worse, some perhaps slightly better), does that mean you approve of the current person in the role?

Approval has to depend on reasonable expectations, and reasonable expectations have to depend on what is actually achievable.  If no person can do better, then probably the current person's performance is a good gauge of what is achievable.  If that's not satisfactory, then you need to change the system rather than the person.

I disapprove of his job because I think he could have done better, if he was a better President.

[derspiess]

Okay, really, wtf?

Sheilbh and I agree that Dgul made ridiculous comments and you use this as an opportunity

I think I missed that.  I thought he was talking about the poll.

to act as though languish is your on private domain? 

I was going to say this thread sorta is my domain, but it doesn't look like we have mod powers any more over threads we start.  Doesn't look like we can do the "poll only-- no comments" thing either, now that I've checked

I don't think many of us really care what you asked for.

Meanie 

[garbon]

Okay, really, wtf?

Sheilbh and I agree that Dgul made ridiculous comments and you use this as an opportunity

I think I missed that.  I thought he was talking about the poll.

to act as though languish is your on private domain? 

I was going to say this thread sorta is my domain, but it doesn't look like we have mod powers any more over threads we start.  Doesn't look like we can do the "poll only-- no comments" thing either, now that I've checked

I don't think many of us really care what you asked for.

Meanie 

Well if it helps, it appears Raz posted that he wanted to know what you wanted.

[Admiral Yi]

It's very easy, as Speesh pointed out, if you break it into discrete decisions and agree or disagree with the choices made.

It's not a grade for results, which it sounds like most of you whingers are trying to force it into.

[Sheilbh]

I'm with Garbon.  This seems a lot of sophistic nonsense.

I knew I should've turned off comments.

I approve.

That's all I asked for-- thank you.

Okay, really, wtf? Sheilbh and I agree that Dgul made ridiculous comments and you use this as an opportunity to act as though languish is your on private domain?  I don't think many of us really care what you asked for.

I know

[Jacob]

Given what Obama had to work with, he's done a good job; I approve.

There's room for improvement, but he performed about how I expected.

[Ed Anger]

Ed Anger checklist:

Pro:

Had Osama killed
Killed a lot of brown people with drones

Con:

Doesn't know when to pull out of Karzai's butt
Michelle Obama's health food shit shrunk the size of Mars bars. BOO! HISS.

Slight Pro. Especially for a Democrat.

[CountDeMoney]

I don't think there's been a President that has accomplished as much as he has with as little as he has had to work with in the last 60 years.

Hell, even Reagan wasn't served such shit sandwich at the beginning.

APPROVED

[grumbler]

I disapprove of his job because I think he could have done better, if he was a better President.

That's pretty much exactly where I am.  I think he could have been a great president, had he reined in his ego long enough to get some experience in how Washington worked before he made his bid.  As it is, he is a wasted opportunity.  He is a smart guy, and a likable guy, but he is in way over his head and, thus, a poor president.

As disappointed in him as a president as I am, I get the vibes he will be a worse ex-president, though.

[Sheilbh]

Michelle Obama's health food shit shrunk the size of Mars bars. BOO! HISS.

They're trying to ban Snickers duo and kingsize chocolate bars over here too.  Bastards