Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[Razgovory]

Muslims should not be allowed to vote or hold citizenship in the West--once people realize that you will have less problems of that sort.

OVB's racism raises its ugly head once again.  Based on past experience, most of you will say nothing. Some of you will agree with him silently. And the most odious of you will come to his defence.

Why do you think that Muslims are a race?

[Norgy]

Why do you even think there are races, Raz?

[crazy canuck]

Muslims should not be allowed to vote or hold citizenship in the West--once people realize that you will have less problems of that sort.

OVB's racism raises its ugly head once again.  Based on past experience, most of you will say nothing. Some of you will agree with him silently. And the most odious of you will come to his defence.

Why do you think that Muslims are a race?

Muslims should not be allowed to vote or hold citizenship in the West--once people realize that you will have less problems of that sort.

OVB's racism raises its ugly head once again.  Based on past experience, most of you will say nothing. Some of you will agree with him silently. And the most odious of you will come to his defence.

Why do you think that Muslims are a race?

Right on cue

[Norgy]

Muslims should not be allowed to vote or hold citizenship in the West--once people realize that you will have less problems of that sort.

OVB's racism raises its ugly head once again.  Based on past experience, most of you will say nothing. Some of you will agree with him silently. And the most odious of you will come to his defence.

And some of us rise to the bait. Just like it was 2004 all over. Man, it feels good to be young.

[Razgovory]

Why do you even think there are races, Raz?

Races are perceived ancestry.  Islam is not ancestry.  

[Razgovory]

Right on cue

I didn't defend him, I asked you a question.  You've made this weird claim before.  Why do you think that Islam is a race.

[OttoVonBismarck]

Muslims should not be allowed to vote or hold citizenship in the West--once people realize that you will have less problems of that sort.

What sort of problem? Darkies?
Should Catholics be allowed citizen rights? The Orthodox? Or... lo, and behold, Jews? They have their homeland, let them go there, right?

A good % of Muslims I've ever interacted with have skin as light as mine. Not sure where this idea came from Islam is a black man's religion or something. Islam is a set of beliefs, has nothing to do with racial or ethnic background.

[garbon]

Muslims should not be allowed to vote or hold citizenship in the West--once people realize that you will have less problems of that sort.

OVB's racism raises its ugly head once again.  Based on past experience, most of you will say nothing. Some of you will agree with him silently. And the most odious of you will come to his defence.

I put him on ignore a long time ago. So it is true I won't say anything but that's because I don't see it.

[Norgy]

Why do you even think there are races, Raz?

Races are perceived ancestry.  Islam is not ancestry. 

That is nation, not race. Don't play ignorant and say that religion is not part of ancestry, it is in tradition and practice. And it usually came before any sense of cultural community because it managed to unite disparate people from smaller less coherent communities.
The semitic people also include the Aramaic speakers that converted to islamic faiths. Those that are often known as Arabs, Syriacs etc, right? Are they not by your pro-Israeli bombardment of idiocy also subject to anti-semitism? Or does that just apply to those of the Jewish faith?

If you are going to continue to go on this crusade, which is a poor choice of words, at least become somewhat eloquent in your racism. You are an amateur bigot. 

[OttoVonBismarck]

At the end of the day you can accept Muslims putting Islamic cultural parochial interests first and foremost and corrupting your elections, or you can accept these are not compatible ideologies with Western society. It's obvious which way Britain has chosen btw--I don't see any realistic future for Europe whatsoever.

The fears of the Great Replacement mongers who think Muslims will supplant Europeans--the demography of that doesn't really math out. Islam may increase as a share of the European population but it won't replace it. But many of the most odious elements of Islam appear to persist even in secularized Muslims. For example a lot of the pro-Hamas/Hezbollah antisemitic Muslim activists are very secular and are not theological fundamentalists. So believing this problem goes away with increased secularism is wishful thinking. The Muslim world, while not widely reported, has secularized meaningfully in percentage terms in the last 25 years.

Even relatively secular Muslim leaders are almost universally antisemitic and full of various other bigotries and anti-Western hatreds.

[Norgy]

How is that different from letting Evangelical whites corrupt yours?

[Razgovory]

Why do you even think there are races, Raz?

Races are perceived ancestry.  Islam is not ancestry. 

That is nation, not race. Don't play ignorant and say that religion is not part of ancestry, it is in tradition and practice. And it usually came before any sense of cultural community because it managed to unite disparate people from smaller less coherent communities.
The semitic people also include the Aramaic speakers that converted to islamic faiths. Those that are often known as Arabs, Syriacs etc, right? Are they not by your pro-Israeli bombardment of idiocy also subject to anti-semitism? Or does that just apply to those of the Jewish faith?

If you are going to continue to go on this crusade, which is a poor choice of words, at least become somewhat eloquent in your racism. You are an amateur bigot. 

No, religion is generally not part of ancestry.  When CC demonstrates his contempt for Christians he is not being racist.  Antisemitism doesn't include Arabs.  The term come from the 19th century Germany to refer exclusively to Jews.  It did not refer to the language (most Jews spoke either the language of their home country or Yiddish which is a Germanic language.)  Properly this is etymology fallacy.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etymological_fallacy

[The Brain]

Seems weird to paint a both in theory and practice universalist religion like Islam as being about race.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Seems weird to paint a both in theory and practice universalist religion like Islam as being about race.

It's racialisation, makes it easier to silence people that oppose the ideology. Its of course dangerous as you can make it work in any direction.

[Norgy]

Seems more weird to think there are races.