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Started by Josephus, March 22, 2011, 09:27:34 PM

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crazy canuck

Quote from: HVC on October 17, 2025, 05:25:48 PMWhy do conservatives keep trying to rehabilitate Mulroney's image?


*edit* also, am I misremembering or wasn't Harper shilling for Mr. P not that long ago?

Conservatives are trying to rehabilitate Mulroney's image?
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In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

Jacob

Quote from: crazy canuck on October 17, 2025, 06:44:55 PMConservatives are trying to rehabilitate Mulroney's image?

Well, Soudas characterized him like this:

Quotethe bold ambition of Brian Mulroney

I have no strong opinion on Mulroney's legacy and any hypothetical rehabilitation scenario. But if someone thinks Mulroney was terrible, that could be seen as an attempt at rehabilitation.

viper37

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Quote from: HVC on October 17, 2025, 05:25:48 PM*edit* also, am I misremembering or wasn't Harper shilling for Mr. P not that long ago?
You are not.

One could say he was the party's leader, and Harper was trying to score a win for the party's leader against the old enemy.

And he still wants his party to win against the old enemy...
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Jacob on October 17, 2025, 06:57:32 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 17, 2025, 06:44:55 PMConservatives are trying to rehabilitate Mulroney's image?

Well, Soudas characterized him like this:

Quotethe bold ambition of Brian Mulroney

I have no strong opinion on Mulroney's legacy and any hypothetical rehabilitation scenario. But if someone thinks Mulroney was terrible, that could be seen as an attempt at rehabilitation.

Mulroney brought in Free Trade.  That was bold. 

People can think he was terrible all they weren't, but can we at least please limit ourselves to factual correct arguments rather than hyperbole.

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In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

viper37

Quote from: crazy canuck on October 17, 2025, 07:52:48 PM
Quote from: Jacob on October 17, 2025, 06:57:32 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 17, 2025, 06:44:55 PMConservatives are trying to rehabilitate Mulroney's image?

Well, Soudas characterized him like this:

Quotethe bold ambition of Brian Mulroney

I have no strong opinion on Mulroney's legacy and any hypothetical rehabilitation scenario. But if someone thinks Mulroney was terrible, that could be seen as an attempt at rehabilitation.

Mulroney brought in Free Trade.  That was bold. 

People can think he was terrible all they weren't, but can we at least please limit ourselves to factual correct arguments rather than hyperbole.


Free trade, GST, acid rain treaty with a Republican administration.
Despite him, the end of criminal abortions.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

crazy canuck

You're completing two things. You have to admit his policy initiatives were bold.  As Jacob pointed out, you may also think his policies were terrible.

Those are not inconsistent points of view.
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In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: HVC on October 17, 2025, 06:00:06 PMAnd it's close cousin gluttony leads to great food, what's your point? :lol:

Eliminating gluttony will eliminate good food.  Which we enjoy.

HVC

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Quote from: Admiral Yi on Today at 04:09:42 PM
Quote from: HVC on October 17, 2025, 06:00:06 PMAnd it's close cousin gluttony leads to great food, what's your point? :lol:

Eliminating gluttony will eliminate good food.  Which we enjoy.

You can't eliminate it, but you should control it unless you want a coronary :P same with greed. Laying people off for a few points higher EPS and the CEO bonus* that comes with it hardly seems equitable.

*and that's the real reason. Shareholder value be damned. If CEOs got rich by nose diving stocks and didn't face prosecution they'd be all over that too :P
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.