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Started by Josephus, March 22, 2011, 09:27:34 PM

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HVC

Interesting little fact I learned today, crownland makes up 89% of Canadian land. I always knew there was a lot of crown land, but I never really thought about how much it actually was. Wonder how that compares to other government controlled land in other countries. I'd guess Australia has a similar situation.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

crazy canuck

Quote from: HVC on October 04, 2025, 11:42:07 AMInteresting little fact I learned today, crownland makes up 89% of Canadian land. I always knew there was a lot of crown land, but I never really thought about how much it actually was. Wonder how that compares to other government controlled land in other countries. I'd guess Australia has a similar situation.

The legal rights attaching to crown lands in Canada are quite different from any other country. You are correct that Australia comes closest in concept but there are also significant differences.



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In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

Valmy

Quote from: HVC on October 04, 2025, 11:42:07 AMInteresting little fact I learned today, crownland makes up 89% of Canadian land. I always knew there was a lot of crown land, but I never really thought about how much it actually was. Wonder how that compares to other government controlled land in other countries. I'd guess Australia has a similar situation.

Makes sense. We have a similar situation in our Western States.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

crazy canuck

Report from the Canadian Press

QuoteConservative Leader Pierre Poilievre said the RCMP covered up what he calls scandals involving former prime minister Justin Trudeau, and said they would have otherwise led to criminal charges.

In a recent interview with YouTube channel Northern Perspective, Poilievre called the leadership of the RCMP "despicable" and added that many of the scandals of the Trudeau era "should have involved jail time."

Awarded 17 Zoupa points

In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

HVC

Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

crazy canuck

I am wondering why PP isn't even trying to hide his Trumpism anymore.  The need to appeal to the 30% or so of the Conservative Party members who are pro Trump ahead of the Leadership review?
Awarded 17 Zoupa points

In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

Zoupa


crazy canuck

Awarded 17 Zoupa points

In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

HVC

#23963
Scotiabank made 2.5 billion in net income for the third quarter. A 500 million increase year over year. They're celebrating by laying people off. TD is doing the same. Sign of recession to come, or just run of the mill corporate greed you decide.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Grey Fox

That's so high an increase it's likely unrepeatable for the next quarters and the banks are getting ahead of the shareholders demands.

Good old corpo greed.
Getting ready to make IEDs against American Occupation Forces.

"But I didn't vote for him"; they cried.

viper37

Quote from: HVC on October 17, 2025, 04:14:27 PMScotiabank made 2.5 billion in net income for the third quarter. A 500 million increase year over year. They're celebrating by laying people off. TD is doing the same. Sign of recession to come, or just run of the mill corporate greed you decide.
Clearly, we need to lower corporate income tax to give our corporation some breathing room.  They are on the verge of total collapse.

I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

viper37

I'm a former senior aide to Stephen Harper. Pierre Poilievre is dismantling the principled, trustworthy Conservative Party we tried to build 

Opinion piece from Dimitri Soudas.  He has expressed doubts about PP before, but never so vocally.

QuoteBy Dimitri Soudas Contributor
Dimitri Soudas is a political analyst for Radio-Canada. He was a director of communications and senior advisor under Stephen Harper and later executive director of the Conservative Party of Canada.


The Conservative Party that was shaped by the nation-building of Sir John A. Macdonald, the moral conviction of John Diefenbaker, the bold ambition of Brian Mulroney, and the steady discipline of Stephen Harper is far greater than any one man. It is a party rooted in history, principle, and purpose, a party built to serve the country, not the ego of a single leader. No individual, no matter how loud or popular, has the right to rewrite that legacy or distort it into something it was never meant to be.

Leader Pierre Poilievre is dismantling the principled, serious and credible Conservative Party Harper worked so hard to lead and bring to power, one of substance, maturity and integrity.

As a senior aide to Prime Minister Harper, I had the privilege to witness first-hand his leadership style: serious, principled, steady and deeply committed to the country's long-term interests. He was the embodiment of what Canadians should expect from a national leader, governing with discipline, competence and a profound respect for Canada's institutions.

He brought credibility to the Conservative movement, not through theatrics, but through thoughtful policy-making, fiscal prudence, and strategic vision. He was never swayed by short-term headlines or the chaos of the news cycle. Instead, he focused on results: balanced budgets, trade expansion, national security, and pragmatic federalism.

Harper spoke less, but when he did, it mattered. He built a unified party that reflected the broad spectrum of conservative values, from fiscal responsibility to national unity, without sacrificing seriousness or integrity. In an era of rising populism and political noise, Harper remains a reminder of what real leadership looks like: thoughtful, focused, principled, and unwavering in service to the country.

Harper was able to unite fiscal conservatives, social conservatives, progressive conservatives, libertarian conservatives, Red Tories and Blue Tories into a serious, policy-driven coalition grounded in discipline, pragmatism and national interest, a legacy now being unravelled by 
Poilievre's politics of spectacle and division.

This week, Poilievre accused Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of committing what he described as the worst possible offence for a head of government, violating the Criminal Code and escaping justice. He claimed that Trudeau's free vacation from the Aga Khan was a clear-cut criminal breach and that the RCMP deliberately chose not to lay charges.

Poilievre went further, declaring that Trudeau should have been criminally charged and sent to jail. He went as far as accusing the RCMP leadership of being "despicable" and actively shielding the Liberal government from prosecution.

In a rule-of-law democracy, no opposition leader should ever call for a prime minister or any political rival to be jailed. It undermines confidence in our justice system, our federal police and ultimately the Crown. That kind of rhetoric isn't strength, it's recklessness and it shows a leadership approach that remains rooted in grievance rather than governance.

Months after losing the federal election, Poilievre seems not to have learned the lessons of his electoral defeat.
For all the fiery slogans and viral clips, Canadians saw through the performance. What they needed was a prime minister-in-waiting. What they got was a man addicted to opposition, stuck in partisan combat, incapable of transformation and unwilling to rise above the instincts that had always held him back.
Voters wanted maturity, reassurance and vision. He gave them grievance. He ran as the angry Question Period debater, not the steady hand of a G7 nation. The result? Swing voters waited for growth that never came.
His message was reduced to punchlines. "Carbon Tax Carney" and "Sneaky Mark Carney" may have earned social media points, but it insulted the intelligence of voters craving real dialogue on housing, inflation, crime, immigration, climate and affordability. As Carney put forward a detailed, albeit debatable, vision, Poilievre delivered slogans and sneers. Canadians rightly asked: if this is how he acts in opposition, how would he behave in power?
Worst of all, Poilievre failed to build a team. A party rich with talent was never showcased. No foreign affairs lead. No visible finance minister. No credible plans for trade, immigration, or defence. It was a one-man show and when the curtain rose, there was no cast, just more spotlight on him.
The most baffling part? Trudeau's record was wide open. Canadians were ready to hear a compelling case. But Poilievre couldn't deliver one. He had the opportunity to prosecute a decade of Liberal failures, and instead leaned on hyperbole, exaggeration and recycled sound bites. The contrast never sharpened. The plan never appeared. He delivered none of it.

His latest comments show once again he has failed to make the leap from critic to leader.
Canadians are tired of the anger. The mockery. The volume. They need calm, confidence, and answers. Yet, despite warnings from advisers, polls, and "common sense," he is still giving them attacks, blame and fury.

In the last election, Canadians didn't reject conservative ideas. They rejected Pierre Poilievre.
Months later, there's little evidence he has reflected, adapted, or grown. If anything, he seems more committed than ever to the very approach that cost him credibility with the voters he most needed to win.


Doubtful that Dimitri Soudas is speaking alone.  Harper is also fed up by Poilièvre's antics costing the party any election chances.  They want him out of the leadership position.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

HVC

#23967
Why do conservatives keep trying to rehabilitate Mulroney's image?


*edit* also, am I misremembering or wasn't Harper shilling for Mr. P not that long ago?
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: HVC on October 17, 2025, 04:14:27 PMScotiabank made 2.5 billion in net income for the third quarter. A 500 million increase year over year. They're celebrating by laying people off. TD is doing the same. Sign of recession to come, or just run of the mill corporate greed you decide.

You do realize "greed" is the reason people get hired as well, don't you?

HVC

Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 17, 2025, 05:58:39 PM
Quote from: HVC on October 17, 2025, 04:14:27 PMScotiabank made 2.5 billion in net income for the third quarter. A 500 million increase year over year. They're celebrating by laying people off. TD is doing the same. Sign of recession to come, or just run of the mill corporate greed you decide.

You do realize "greed" is the reason people get hired as well, don't you?

And it's close cousin gluttony leads to great food, what's your point? :lol:
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.