[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[HVC]

Potash, which I recently learned is a real word, US tariffs are down to 10% from 25%. Time to levy an export tax of 15%.

No matter what Economic illumini Yi says there's no alternative source for 2025.

They also get 40-50% of their aluminum and nickel from us too, apparently . Probably a bunch more raw materials. 

[Josephus]

So looks like Trump is pausing tariffs on all items covered in the trade agreement until April 2.

See at this point, as my ex used to say, "Either shit or get off the pot." It's like, hmmm....Trump is using this so he and his cronies can play the market; buy a bunch of shit when NASDAQ is down because of his tariff threats and then "pause" so they go back up again and they can sell.

But as our Foreign Minister Melanie Joly (who, incidentally is nothing like my ex) said, and I paraphrase We can't keep doing this every fucking month. We need to say, look, either stop all this shit about tariffs or we will continue ours. Do we restock our shelves with American wine?

In Ontario Ford has imposed a 25 per cent export tax on electricity to three neighbouring states. Does he rescind them now? And do it again next month?

[Josephus]

One thing about Trudeau. About a month or so ago, I said history will judge him kindly; and one or two of you disagreed (using a mild word).

I think he will.

I think he's handled Trump well both now and the last go around. He handled COVID well, and he did OK with Ukraine. He's a good crisis manager (except when it comes to managing his party and caucus--but that's another story)

And less you think I'm being partisan, I think the same of Premier Ford. I hate the guy, I think he's corrupt as the devil, BUT---I think he does well in crises.

[HVC]

Yeah Trudeau, for all his faults, has good media training.

And I kind of joked about ford for PM, but if and when he ever runs I think he'd do well in the polls.

[crazy canuck]

One thing about Trudeau. About a month or so ago, I said history will judge him kindly; and one or two of you disagreed (using a mild word).

I think he will.

I think he's handled Trump well both now and the last go around. He handled COVID well, and he did OK with Ukraine. He's a good crisis manager (except when it comes to managing his party and caucus--but that's another story)

And less you think I'm being partisan, I think the same of Premier Ford. I hate the guy, I think he's corrupt as the devil, BUT---I think he does well in crises.

Yeah, the great irony is that Trump created the circumstances in which Trudeau will now be fondly remembered.  Some might even wonder why we were even angry with him in the first place.

[mongers]

Yeah, the great irony is that Trump created the circumstances in which Trudeau will now be fondly remembered.  Some might even wonder why we were even angry with him in the first place.

Yes, nobody has the right to be angry with someone who has hair that nice.  *



* Incidentally this smilie isn't used enough on the forum.

[viper37]

He handled COVID well

After he was pushed by Premiers.

[Jacob]

Yeah, the great irony is that Trump created the circumstances in which Trudeau will now be fondly remembered.  Some might even wonder why we were even angry with him in the first place.

Trudeau certainly had weak points and certainly made mistakes, some of them egregious. Nonetheless, I think a significant percentage of the animus against him was (and is) created and driven by organized social media campaigns.

[Neil]

Has Trudeau really handled Trump all that well?  I will grant that he's been in a very difficult position, but he's been so publicly insulting towards a man who is so famously thin-skinned.  It seems like Canada has had a harder time than Mexico in managing Trump's foolishness, and I think the lack of personal connection between Trump and Trudeau is partially to blame. 

[HVC]

I've seen different premiers take the pulpit the last few weeks (Ford, Eby*, and Kinew, off the top of my head). Has  Smith said anything?

Also, while not a premier Charlie Angus had a good speech.

* my phone really doesn't like Eby as a name.

[HVC]

Has Trudeau really handled Trump all that well?  I will grant that he's been in a very difficult position, but he's been so publicly insulting towards a man who is so famously thin-skinned.  It seems like Canada has had a harder time than Mexico in managing Trump's foolishness, and I think the lack of personal connection between Trump and Trudeau is partially to blame. 

The moment Ivanka looked lovingly at Trudeau their relationship was doomed.

[crazy canuck]

Has Trudeau really handled Trump all that well?  I will grant that he's been in a very difficult position, but he's been so publicly insulting towards a man who is so famously thin-skinned.  It seems like Canada has had a harder time than Mexico in managing Trump's foolishness, and I think the lack of personal connection between Trump and Trudeau is partially to blame. 

I am coming around to the view that it is much better to take him on than roll over and show your belly.

And, you think this is because of a lack of personal connection.  I gotta ask, what have you been smoking?

[Zoupa]

lol. PP: the eternal loser.

[DontSayBanana]

Has Trudeau really handled Trump all that well?  I will grant that he's been in a very difficult position, but he's been so publicly insulting towards a man who is so famously thin-skinned.  It seems like Canada has had a harder time than Mexico in managing Trump's foolishness, and I think the lack of personal connection between Trump and Trudeau is partially to blame. 

You're saying he failed by not cozying up to Trump? Dude, Trump is a rabid raccoon... it doesn't matter how much you try to cozy up to him, he'll bite your head off for something. Look at Paul Manafort, Steve Bannon, Anthony Scaramucci... you don't think it was a better call to rip the band-aid off early?

You can't actually be Trump's friend, just someone that hasn't pissed him off yet.

[Valmy]

The Mexican government is acting with hostility I haven't seen since the 1980s. Or really since his first term. They aren't exactly managing him smoothly.