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2024 US Presidential Elections Megathread

Started by Syt, May 25, 2023, 02:23:01 AM

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Syt

Oh, and even if Harris wins - with the Republicans winning Senate majority it will be more gridlock. Yay!
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Admiral Yi

270 just called PA for Donnie.  It's officially over.

DGuller

Quote from: Syt on November 06, 2024, 01:34:43 AMSo presuming Trump wins this - how long until Trump is declared mentally unfit and President Vance can take over?  :ph34r:
Given what we've seen so far, even if Trump suffers a stroke and pisses his pants, Republicans around him would be too timid to do anything.

Syt

Oh this is going to be a fun 4 years (or more!).
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: Grey Fox on November 05, 2024, 10:29:18 PMI'm trying to keep being optimistic but I'm failing.

This is how fascism comes to America. In the end, Putin & Xi won. They can have their Empires back.

In the end China won the cold war.

Admiral Yi

My advice to Democrats now is to just shut up for four years.  Every single thing we say just convinces Trump voters even more they are right.

The Minsky Moment

#3201
Quote from: Zoupa on November 06, 2024, 01:26:14 AMSo uh what happens with all the pending court cases? Isn't there supposed to be sentencing for the rapes, the felonies, the stealing of documents and the Georgia stuff?



All the federal cases are gone.

The NY case would not usually involve a jail sentence. Judge Merchan will not trigger a constitutional showdown by imposing one.

The Georgia case is still alive in theory but expect to see the Ga Supreme Court tank it.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

garbon

Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 06, 2024, 01:47:03 AMMy advice to Democrats now is to just shut up for four years.  Every single thing we say just convinces Trump voters even more they are right.

So the Dems should give up on being a party? :hmm:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Tamas

Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 06, 2024, 01:47:03 AMMy advice to Democrats now is to just shut up for four years.  Every single thing we say just convinces Trump voters even more they are right.

Silence will convince them even more.

What can you do when most people want a fucked up felon like Trump?

Tamas

OK so twice a woman run against Trump once a man. Can we say America is not ready for women to leave the kitchen?

Admiral Yi

Quote from: garbon on November 06, 2024, 01:50:19 AMSo the Dems should give up on being a party? :hmm:

We should act like a party that has lost a crushing electoral defeat fair and square.

Oexmelin

I think staying put as the institutional guardrails of the USA constitutional order are being dismantled is not a sound strategy.
Que le grand cric me croque !

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Oexmelin on November 06, 2024, 02:01:48 AMI think staying put as the institutional guardrails of the USA constitutional order are being dismantled is not a sound strategy.

What is a better one?

The Minsky Moment

Guller did you see the Jersey numbers?
Check out Passaic and Bergen.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

DGuller

I really hope that Democrat introspection would be an open and honest one, and not a sarcastic one like "we should lie without shame, our women should be back in the kitchen", and so on.

They've lost grip on an important constituency, and clearly they didn't get enough in return.  We may not have too many more free and fair elections, let's try to extract the right lessons this time.