2024 US Presidential Elections Megathread

[Syt]

So the Dems should give up on being a party?

We should act like a party that has lost a crushing electoral defeat fair and square.

Like the GOP in 2020?

[Oexmelin]

I think staying put as the institutional guardrails of the USA constitutional order are being dismantled is not a sound strategy.

What is a better one?

Stop being so fucking passive.

[The Minsky Moment]

Yi Trump didn't follow any of the rules you are suggesting.  He didn't shut up and didn't moderate, he did the exact opposite. And it didn't stop him him from winning

The democrats aren't going to convince voters they deserve to govern by rolling over and hiding.🫣

[Admiral Yi]

I think staying put as the institutional guardrails of the USA constitutional order are being dismantled is not a sound strategy.

What is a better one?

Stop being so fucking passive.

Ah, so more protests.

[DGuller]

Guller did you see the Jersey numbers?
Check out Passaic and Bergen.

Guys, something's wrong here, let's figure out what.  This is scary.

[Tamas]

I really hope that Democrat introspection would be an open and honest one, and not a sarcastic one like "we should lie without shame, our women should be back in the kitchen", and so on.

They've lost grip on an important constituency, and clearly they didn't get enough in return.  We may not have too many more free and fair elections, let's try to extract the right lessons this time.

What the fuck is there to analyse here? How the fuck can you win if what Donald Trump offers is what the American people want? Promise deportations? Collect some felonies?

Dont tell me about economic policies and such, Harris had those while Trump had Almon Palmers or is size. One was largely ignored the other dominated even the leftist media I listen to.

[jimmy olsen]

I really hope that Democrat introspection would be an open and honest one, and not a sarcastic one like "we should lie without shame, our women should be back in the kitchen", and so on.

They've lost grip on an important constituency, and clearly they didn't get enough in return.  We may not have too many more free and fair elections, let's try to extract the right lessons this time.

I mean, the biggest shift was with hispanic men and Trump is openly saying he's going to round them up into camp and deport them.

Can we really do much when people just willfully vote against their own self interest like that?

[DontSayBanana]

Guller did you see the Jersey numbers?
Check out Passaic and Bergen.

Van Drew won comfortably, and that's all you need to know.

I really hope that Democrat introspection would be an open and honest one, and not a sarcastic one like "we should lie without shame, our women should be back in the kitchen", and so on.

They've lost grip on an important constituency, and clearly they didn't get enough in return.  We may not have too many more free and fair elections, let's try to extract the right lessons this time.

The lesson here is people are self-interested scum. I want to move out of Cumberland (Trump country) because the yokels are already so insufferable.

[DGuller]

I guess we can't do anything.  Let's feel superior about ourselves, we at least know how to do that.

[Josquius]

So presuming Trump wins this - how long until Trump is declared mentally unfit and President Vance can take over? 

2 1/2 years so he can have 10 years in power.

[Syt]

I really hope that Democrat introspection would be an open and honest one, and not a sarcastic one like "we should lie without shame, our women should be back in the kitchen", and so on.

They've lost grip on an important constituency, and clearly they didn't get enough in return.  We may not have too many more free and fair elections, let's try to extract the right lessons this time.

I mean, the biggest shift was with hispanic men and Trump is openly saying he's going to round them up into camp and deport them.

Can we really do much when people just willfully vote against their own self interest like that?

I'm increasingly convinced that while voters generally want to be better off after elections, currently a lot of them prefer feeling better about themselves (and if it means being worse off while "the right people" are even more worserer off, then that's worth it).

[DGuller]

Guller did you see the Jersey numbers?
Check out Passaic and Bergen.

Van Drew won comfortably, and that's all you need to know.

I really hope that Democrat introspection would be an open and honest one, and not a sarcastic one like "we should lie without shame, our women should be back in the kitchen", and so on.

They've lost grip on an important constituency, and clearly they didn't get enough in return.  We may not have too many more free and fair elections, let's try to extract the right lessons this time.

The lesson here is people are self-interested scum. I want to move out of Cumberland (Trump country) because the yokels are already so insufferable.

The south of New Jersey has always been Alabama.  Bergen county, however, is exactly the kind of demographic that Democrats should be capturing:  suburban highly educated folks that probably commute to NYC.  To be almost even with Trump there?  There is clearly a message there.

[Zoupa]

I guess we can't do anything.  Let's feel superior about ourselves, we at least know how to do that.

Let's hear some ideas from you. Go.

[garbon]

I guess we can't do anything.  Let's feel superior about ourselves, we at least know how to do that.

If the people want to eat shit, who are we to stop them?

[garbon]

So the Dems should give up on being a party?

We should act like a party that has lost a crushing electoral defeat fair and square.

I didn't realise that is what you meant. Of course, I agree that we shouldn't be saying the election wasn't fair. But I thought that was a given.