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2024 US Presidential Elections Megathread

Started by Syt, May 25, 2023, 02:23:01 AM

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Barrister

Sometimes I hate being right.

This is one of those times.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Zoupa

Quote from: DGuller on November 05, 2024, 10:07:49 PMI'm calling it, there is just nothing going Kamala's way, nothing at all.  Every update is just an additional nail in her coffin.  The left really needs to get its shit together and decide whether it wants to win elections or signal its virtues.

Y'all need to chill.

HVC

Quote from: frunk on November 05, 2024, 10:44:04 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on November 05, 2024, 10:35:50 PMTwo key lessons for Democrats from this:
1. Lie, lie, lie. Tell everyone what they want to hear, even if it's contradictory. Don't bother with honesty.
2. Promise to brutalize others. Americans don't want brotherly love. They want you to hurt the out group, and will pay you for it.

Don't forget voter suppression, gerrymandering, fearmongering, billionaires spreading slander and stupidity, book banning and hollowing out of public education to keep people ignorant.

I'm sure there's others.

One answer. Robot overlords.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

HVC

Quote from: Barrister on November 05, 2024, 10:48:03 PMSometimes I hate being right.

This is one of those times.

Looks like you're getting your house and senate majority too.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Zoupa

None of the swing states have been called. I don't get the freakout here.

Admiral Yi


HVC

Quote from: Zoupa on November 05, 2024, 10:51:28 PMNone of the swing states have been called. I don't get the freakout here.

If you wait too long to panic you go down with the ship :P
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

DGuller

I hope this isn't how the Democratic soul-searching will go.  I had lunch with my co-worker today.  Both of us voted D without a second thought, but both of us felt like the left was moving away from us. 

Obviously given the alternative it could've moved a whole lot further and we would've still voted D without a thought, but there are people to the right of us.  Surely if we feel alienated enough to at least feel resentment, some other people will feel alienated enough to be open to a pitch from a cult recruiter.

It's a numbers game.  I can't fathom how you can be on the fence, but whether I can or can't doesn't change the fact that some are.  Shit like DEI may be what nudge some to listen to a podcast or two, and then start listening more, and then maybe watch some Fox News.

The Minsky Moment

She's running behind in the some of the college towns in the midwest.  Not by huge percentage margins, but by enough to costs here thousands of votes per county.  Ironic but it seems that the pro-Palestinian campus activists and their allies are taking the same side as Otto in this election.  I expect they both will be badly disappointed but for different reasons.  We'll see soon enough.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

DGuller

Quote from: Zoupa on November 05, 2024, 10:51:28 PMNone of the swing states have been called. I don't get the freakout here.
You don't need to wait until you're in a delivery room before getting a pretty good idea that you're going to have a baby at some point.  We know enough about how human bodies work to see how the situation will develop from early signs.

The Minsky Moment

The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

HVC

Quote from: DGuller on November 05, 2024, 10:53:40 PMI hope this isn't how the Democratic soul-searching will go.  I had lunch with my co-worker today.  Both of us voted D without a second thought, but both of us felt like the left was moving away from us. 

Obviously given the alternative it could've moved a whole lot further and we would've still voted D without a thought, but there are people to the right of us.  Surely if we feel alienated enough to at least feel resentment, some other people will feel alienated enough to be open to a pitch from a cult recruiter.

It's a numbers game.  I can't fathom how you can be on the fence, but whether I can or can't doesn't change the fact that some are.  Shit like DEI may be what nudge some to listen to a podcast or two, and then start listening more, and then maybe watch some Fox News.

Given my vast political knowledge ( :P ) I don't think it's the DEI stuff necessarily. Sure it might swing some of the fringe ends, but the main motivator is I think people are angry (or at least moody). Things are getting more expensive and wages aren't keeping up. The GOP is the party for angry people, as emblematized by the orange whiner in chief.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Grey Fox

It doesn't matter. There won't be elections anymore.
Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

HVC

Quote from: Grey Fox on November 05, 2024, 11:07:43 PMIt doesn't matter. There won't be elections anymore.

Nah, there's another 1 or 2 republican president before that happens.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 05, 2024, 10:54:50 PMShe's running behind in the some of the college towns in the midwest.  Not by huge percentage margins, but by enough to costs here thousands of votes per county.  Ironic but it seems that the pro-Palestinian campus activists and their allies are taking the same side as Otto in this election.  I expect they both will be badly disappointed but for different reasons.  We'll see soon enough.

The goal of the anti-anti-Trumpers has been, and always will be, that in order to defeat the Republican Party you have to destroy the Democratic Party first.  They have been rather adamant on this point.

While it's noble to see to see they're more worried about Palestinian healthcare than their own, I really don't think it's going to be the win they think it is. 

Oh yeah, and this nation hates negroes and women in charge of shit. Derp. Been telling you people that for fucking years.  The fuck you people expect.