TV/Movies Megathread

[Valmy]

Messiah also closes Paul's story very well, imho.

After that it gets weird, but not weird enough to not make some good films about until the death of the God Emperor. After that it is too weird. At least IMO.

[Admiral Yi]

I didn't know Denis Villeneuve was a Quebeconite.

[Sheilbh]

Yeah, I'd expect this to become "an extended cinematic universe", unless something gets in the way.

I am entirely ok with that 

I'm kind of not

I love the Dune movies. I think their vibe is special. I'm not sure you can extend that into other areas without it just becoming very one note. Alternately I'm not sure you can do entirely different things with it without in some way undermining that and making it all less than the sum of its parts.

[Jacob]

They won't extend it and make it one-note, preserving Villeneuve and Frank Herbert's vision by entombing it in unchanging crystal. They'll make it generic Hollywood heroes journey with intermixed quips and high action and romance schlock; it'll turn into somewhere between Star Wars and a Super Hero movie with a dash of Game of Thrones (cruelty! betrayal!), only with a lot of duduk in the soundtrack.

[Sheilbh]

I know

[Valmy]

I didn't know Denis Villeneuve was a Quebeconite.

Oh yeah. I enjoy it when he and Timothée Chalamet go on their press tours in France.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gn_rHritEk

It is cool for me because I can really hear the difference between Denis' Quebec accent and the French accent.

[viper37]

I didn't know Denis Villeneuve was a Quebeconite.

The name didn't ring a bell?


[spoiler for Dune]








In the 2nd movie, there's a scene where the Fremen and Paul come out of Sandstorm.  That's a scene I've seen plenty of times in my youth, albeit out of snow.  Only a Québécois could have shot that

[crazy canuck]

Yeah, I'd expect this to become "an extended cinematic universe", unless something gets in the way.

I am entirely ok with that 

I'm kind of not

I love the Dune movies. I think their vibe is special. I'm not sure you can extend that into other areas without it just becoming very one note. Alternately I'm not sure you can do entirely different things with it without in some way undermining that and making it all less than the sum of its parts.

The story changes through the series, as do the main players, so I am not sure what you mean by one note.

[Josquius]

I didn't know Denis Villeneuve was a Quebeconite.

Oh yeah. I enjoy it when he and Timothée Chalamet go on their press tours in France.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gn_rHritEk

It is cool for me because I can really hear the difference between Denis' Quebec accent and the French accent.

Is villeneuve toning it down for the audience at all here?
As though... Gruff. He still sounds pretty "standard". Though from what I've heard most euro Francophones say about Quebecois is that if British English is French French then Quebecois is more comparable to Appalachian than standard American?

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Messiah also closes Paul's story very well, imho.

After that it gets weird, but not weird enough to not make some good films about until the death of the God Emperor. After that it is too weird. At least IMO.

You could probably make a few good movies of some type out of the last two books, but what would be the point since we don't have the Frank Herbert ending... plus indeed things being weird

[crazy canuck]

Why do people think things get weird?

[Sheilbh]

The story changes through the series, as do the main players, so I am not sure what you mean by one note.

I'm not sure story is even in the top 10 of why I enjoyed the Dune films

I get the story changes but I mean vibe - the aesthetic, the style, the mood and tone, the world it's built in.

I feel like it's easier to go from Star Wars (mass market adventure film for all the family) to then explore maybe the darker sides of that universe and it still works on a vibe level (Rogue One and, I've heard, Andor). I think it's more difficult to go from the Dune story to an extended universe - either the vibe stays which would become one note or it's really really jarringly different (a wisecracking Spice smuggler, say).

[Valmy]

Why do people think things get weird?

Things like all the all-female military organizations. Especially the one with the sex assassins. Herbert had some weird gender stuff going on.

[crazy canuck]

The story changes through the series, as do the main players, so I am not sure what you mean by one note.

I'm not sure story is even in the top 10 of why I enjoyed the Dune films

I get the story changes but I mean vibe - the aesthetic, the style, the mood and tone, the world it's built in.

I feel like it's easier to go from Star Wars (mass market adventure film for all the family) to then explore maybe the darker sides of that universe and it still works on a vibe level (Rogue One and, I've heard, Andor). I think it's more difficult to go from the Dune story to an extended universe - either the vibe stays which would become one note or it's really really jarringly different (a wisecracking Spice smuggler, say).

But that's just the thing, the Planet portrayed in the first book changes dramatically.  So there is no chance that There will be just one note.

And the planet changing dramatically is the least of the dramatic changes that occur.

[celedhring]

Bettlejuice x2

As far as nostalgiaxplotation goes, this isn't the worst of all. Slow in parts, but some brilliant stuff sprinkled here and there, with a really fun (if messy) last third. It's fanservicey but not to outrageous or sentimental levels. As expected the movie is at its best when Keaton is in it (and I feared they would overuse him compared to the first movie, but they don't), but Catherine O'Hara steals every scene she's in too.

Overall this is the best Burton movie since... Big Fish? (depends on your opinion on Wonka) which isn't saying much, but it's saying something. There are some little flashes of fun nasty Burton here and there (like the giallo homage scene, and some unexpected body horror stuff played totally for laughs).

The lengths they go to include Jeffrey Jones' character without including Jeffrey Jones himself are hilarious and I want to believe it's plain trolling