2024 US Presidential Elections Megathread

[Josquius]

Electing a black woman as President would be an incredibly sweet revenge on the MAGA bastards. And in a way I suspect an  opponent like Trump is needed to have a chance doing that.

On the other hand, there will be a lot of misogynistic and racist strings the GOP will be able to play.

I'd like to hope this would count against them if they tried it- the racist sexists already being firmly in the Trump camp, whilst getting out the black vote was vital to the 2020 win in close states

[The Minsky Moment]

Not really surprising

Peter Thiel owns him ever since the Gawker incident.  And Thiel's agenda is to foment a complete collapse of the United States so he can implement his libertarian "free state" fantasies.  Trump is the perfect candidate.

[crazy canuck]

Yeah, not the sort of thing I would've thought to see at a RNC event, well. at least before they had Clint Eastwood talking to a chair.

But one thing you have to give the Republicans, they have identified the population who don't normally vote and got their attention.

[Valmy]

Electing a black woman as President would be an incredibly sweet revenge on the MAGA bastards. And in a way I suspect an  opponent like Trump is needed to have a chance doing that.

On the other hand, there will be a lot of misogynistic and racist strings the GOP will be able to play.

I'd like to hope this would count against them if they tried it- the racist sexists already being firmly in the Trump camp, whilst getting out the black vote was vital to the 2020 win in close states

Yeah. The black vote is the most important part of the Democratic base. If they don't turn out...you are in trouble. So whatever we do go with, enthusiasm from that voting block is vital.

[Jacob]

On the other hand, there will be a lot of misogynistic and racist strings the GOP will be able to play.

Yeah.

I wonder if, in retrospect, replaceing the old white dude with concerns about his age with non-white woman will turn out to be a clever move pushing giving the Democrats a solid boost, or whether it'll be seen as an own goal.

[celedhring]

Feels more like a Hail Mary at this point. Hope to be wrong.

[Valmy]

Feels more like a Hail Mary at this point. Hope to be wrong.

It is July. The election is in November. If the British can do the whole election in a month, we can work this out.

Besides in the old days we wouldn't have candidates at all until July before the November election and if that was enough time to run a whole campaign in the era of horses and printing presses, we can do it in the era of the internet.

[Razgovory]

Wouldn't it be nice if we could to the election in a month?

[Admiral Yi]

Yeah. The black vote is the most important part of the Democratic base. If they don't turn out...you are in trouble. So whatever we do go with, enthusiasm from that voting block is vital.

Surely college educated women are the most important part of the base.

[crazy canuck]

Feels more like a Hail Mary at this point. Hope to be wrong.

A Hail Mary is thrown when there is no other option.  There are a number of options currently but time is running out. 

The better football analogy is sticking with a game plan you know the other side has thoroughly scouted, has practiced against and will soundly defeat you as a result.  But you go stick with it anyway. 

The Republican's entire election strategy is built on a Biden is weak and Trump is strong message, that was developed before the debate.  The debate and the assassination attempt have played perfectly into the Republican strategy.

The Dems would be reckless to just stick to their game plan in these circumstances.

[crazy canuck]

Yeah. The black vote is the most important part of the Democratic base. If they don't turn out...you are in trouble. So whatever we do go with, enthusiasm from that voting block is vital.

Surely college educated women are the most important part of the base.

They Dems are not going to win with college educated voters only.  They need to get back to their working class base, and the Republicans are eating their lunch with that group.

[HVC]

"You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers working class. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons."

[frunk]

To me the problem isn't Biden, it's the rather bland and lackluster campaign that has been run.  Nobody is polling above Biden, so I don't expect the replacement to do any better without serious changes in focus and energy from the Democratic Party.

[Josquius]

Does purple mean mentally challenged?

[garbon]

To me the problem isn't Biden, it's the rather bland and lackluster campaign that has been run.  Nobody is polling above Biden, so I don't expect the replacement to do any better without serious changes in focus and energy from the Democratic Party.

Well we aren't going to get energy out of Biden.