[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[Josephus]

I like how Canada is "heavily centralized" and how commies are the majority in "left-wing" canadian political parties lol.

When i was 21 I wanted to vote for a communist candidate. But i couldn't decide between the Marxist-Leninist party or the Trotskyist party 

[viper37]

I like how Canada is "heavily centralized" and how commies are the majority in "left-wing" canadian political parties lol.

When i was 21 I wanted to vote for a communist candidate. But i couldn't decide between the Marxist-Leninist party or the Trotskyist party 

You got the NDP to carry the flag

[viper37]

I like how Canada is "heavily centralized" and how commies are the majority in "left-wing" canadian political parties lol.

You want to make the argument Canada is a decentralized country? Please, go ahead.

Socialists are in control of the Liberal Party and the New Democratic Party and the Bloc Québécois.
That they choose to call themselves "social-democrats" is the same as nazis calling themselves "patriots", ie, it has zero links to reality.

[crazy canuck]

Out of curiosity, how are you defining the word "socialist" in that sentence?

[Josephus]

I like how Canada is "heavily centralized" and how commies are the majority in "left-wing" canadian political parties lol.

You want to make the argument Canada is a decentralized country? Please, go ahead.

Socialists are in control of the Liberal Party and the New Democratic Party and the Bloc Québécois.
That they choose to call themselves "social-democrats" is the same as nazis calling themselves "patriots", ie, it has zero links to reality.

I'm not sure socialism is what you think it means.

[Valmy]

I like how Canada is "heavily centralized" and how commies are the majority in "left-wing" canadian political parties lol.

You want to make the argument Canada is a decentralized country? Please, go ahead.

Socialists are in control of the Liberal Party and the New Democratic Party and the Bloc Québécois.
That they choose to call themselves "social-democrats" is the same as nazis calling themselves "patriots", ie, it has zero links to reality.

What exactly is the reality? Is the Liberal Party really about eliminating private property Marxist style? Because they seem like a rather bland third way party to me.

Or do you mean the idea proposed in the early 19th century where socialists simply means they put social welfare over economic interests a la Louis Blanc?

[Grey Fox]

It's an insane take by Viper. The NDP has strong socialist ideals. The Liberal party is the party of doing business on the government's dime & the BQ is aligned to whatever the party is in power in Quebec city, currently the CAQ. Viper's favourite.

[Jacob]

The NDP has mild socialist ideals. They are for progressive taxation and social support schemes.

If they were strong socialists they'd at the very least want to nationalize some industries and up the tax rates significantly more than they are now.

[Grey Fox]

Yeah and it sucks. Fucking leadership bowing to the Liberal idea that the tent must be grown by going right.

[Jacob]

Conservative MP Calls on Leadership Candidates to Consider 'Legal Restrictions' on Abortion

Arnold Viersen circulates petition calling on Conservative leadership candidates to take a position on laws restricting abortions

One of Canada's federal Conservative MPs is calling on the party's leadership candidates to take a position on whether or not they support "legal restrictions" to criminalize abortion.

Arnold Viersen, the Conservative MP for Peace River–Westlock, included the demand in a petition to constituents posted on his website.

"As a pro-life member of Parliament who speaks regularly on life issues, I want to make sure that the leadership candidates bring forward policies and debate ideas around life in the womb," Viersen wrote.

"Every day 300 babies die in Canada because of abortion," the Conservative MP's petition claims, adding a call for leadership candidates to prioritize "concrete measures" that will reduce or eliminate abortions in Canada.

"As pro-lifers, we want to see that 300 number become 0," Viersen wrote.

"Some might propose legal restrictions," Viersen explained, though he added he is also aware of "countries that have been able to significantly reduce the abotion rate without changing the criminal law."

While Viersen gives no source for his "300" number, that statistic does not accurately reflect data on abortions from the Canadian Institute for Health Information.

In addition to changing laws to restrict abortions, Viersen's petition also calls on Conservatives to defend anti-abortion activists from "escalating discrimination in Canada," pointing to anti-abortion groups on "university campuses" and organizations "focused on women in crisis pregnancy situations."

Viersen also wants candidates to stand in favour of Conservative MPs when they sponsor anti-abortion private members bills.

Previously, PressProgress reported that Viersen donated hundreds of dollars to Canada's largest anti-abortion organization with taxpayer funds.

Neither Viersen nor the Conservative Party responded to requests for comment from PressProgress.

https://pressprogress.ca/conservative-mp-calls-on-leadership-candidates-to-consider-legal-restrictions-on-abortion/

I guess abortion is not a fully closed book in the Conservative Party yet. I'm looking forward to seeing how the different leadership candidates position themselves in relation to this petition and the issue.

[crazy canuck]

 Note the suggestion that the state should prevent criticism of anti abortion groups when they come on campus.  This is the logical extension of the logic that freedom of expression includes freedom from criticism. It is a significant danger to freedom of expression in Canada.  Not to mention the separate and critically important commitment to academic freedom necessary for a university to be a university. 

[Grey Fox]

Every time I see Conservative MPs talk about abortion, I cannot avoid thinking that's the way we'll finally achieve Quebec independence.

[crazy canuck]

Every time I see Conservative MPs talk about abortion, I cannot avoid thinking that's the way we'll finally achieve Quebec independence.

I think that is a natural consequence of the conservative party of Canada being so beholden to the caucus located in Alberta and Saskatchewan.  Which we now know is where the majority of the Trumpists are located.

[HVC]

Every time I see Conservative MPs talk about abortion, I cannot avoid thinking that's the way we'll finally achieve Quebec independence.

Nah, most of anglo Canada is pro abortion, but it gets votes in Texas of the north so they'll keep plugging away.

[crazy canuck]

Jacob inspired me to take a look at our early days in this thread and one thing to tell my past self - never say never

...I will never vote NDP...