Since nobody else has done it yet...
SUN, OCT 16 TIME (ET) TV LOCATION
San Francisco at Detroit 1:00 PM FOX Ford Field
St. Louis at Green Bay 1:00 PM FOX Lambeau Field
Carolina at Atlanta 1:00 PM FOX Georgia Dome
Indianapolis at Cincinnati 1:00 PM CBS Paul Brown Stadium
Buffalo at NY Giants 1:00 PM CBS MetLife Stadium
Jacksonville at Pittsburgh 1:00 PM CBS Heinz Field
Philadelphia at Washington 1:00 PM FOX FedEx Field
Houston at Baltimore 4:05 PM CBS M&T Bank Stadium
Cleveland at Oakland 4:05 PM CBS Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum
Dallas at New England 4:15 PM FOX Gillette Stadium
New Orleans at Tampa Bay 4:15 PM FOX Raymond James Stadium
Minnesota at Chicago 8:20 PM NBC Soldier Field
MON, OCT 17
Miami at NY Jets 8:30 PM ESPN MetLife Stadium
·Bye: Denver, Tennessee, Kansas City, Arizona, San Diego, Seattle
MBM failed us, why am I not surprised?
One more of week of Pittssuck vs someone. :(
Almost all my LFFL starting lineup is on a bye week, which is just as well for all the good they did me last week. I guess I have a hedge against a Bengals loss Sunday, since I have three Colts offensive players starting this weekend :mellow:
The odds/spreads seem to better reflect reality this week. Can't find an easy way to copy & paste them into a readable format, so here's a link: http://sportsdirect.usatoday.com/odds/usatoday/odds.aspx#nfl
Obviously flex scheduling hasn't started yet, or else Minnesota-Chicago would be switched with pretty much any of the late games (except for the Benedict Arnold Bowl).
I think my early game is going to be the Niners vs the Lions. That should be entertaining.
Quote from: Neil on October 12, 2011, 01:05:14 PM
Obviously flex scheduling hasn't started yet, or else Minnesota-Chicago would be switched with pretty much any of the late games (except for the Benedict Arnold Bowl).
Weeks 10-15 and 17 only per the NFL (although the same page says it starts in week 11).
http://www.nfl.com/schedules/tv/flexible
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10/16 1:00 ET At Green Bay -15 St. Louis 47.5
10/16 1:00 ET At Pittsburgh -12 Jacksonville 40
10/16 1:00 ET Philadelphia -1.5 At Washington 47
10/16 1:00 ET At Detroit -4 San Francisco 46.5
10/16 1:00 ET At Atlanta -4 Carolina 51
10/16 1:00 ET At Cincinnati -7 Indianapolis 41
10/16 1:00 ET At NY Giants -3 Buffalo 50
10/16 4:05 ET At Baltimore -7.5 Houston 44.5
10/16 4:05 ET At Oakland -6.5 Cleveland 44.5
10/16 4:15 ET At New England -7 Dallas 55
10/16 4:15 ET New Orleans -4.5 At Tampa Bay 49.5
10/16 8:30 ET At Chicago -3 Minnesota 42
Monday Night Football Line
10/17 8:35 ET At NY Jets -7 Miami 43.5
I like Detroit, Cincy, and New England to cover.
I am so fucking sick of the Jets Rex Ryan on Monday night. Good thing I have to hit the sack at 11pm.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 12, 2011, 06:38:29 PM
I am so fucking sick of the Jets Rex Ryan on Monday night. Good thing I have to hit the sack at 11pm.
The Monday Night games have been pretty bad this year, although I did enjoy the Lions last night.
I'm actually feeling a little confident about the Redskins game. They should pull a win despite being the underdog. If they win, I definitely think they'll go 8-8 this season.
And it's sad that 8-8 would be considered good for the Skins :(
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 12, 2011, 11:23:43 PM
I'm actually feeling a little confident about the Redskins game. They should pull a win despite being the underdog. If they win, I definitely think they'll go 8-8 this season.
And it's sad that 8-8 would be considered good for the Skins :(
If I were a bettin' man I'd definitely take the points in that game. Eagles haven't allowed less than 24 points in any game so far and the Redskins seem to be able to play just well enough to win.
I'd also take the points in Bills-Giants.
Who'd have thought that the biggest week 6 matchup would be the 49ers & Lions? :lol:
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 12, 2011, 11:23:43 PM
I'm actually feeling a little confident about the Redskins game. They should pull a win despite being the underdog. If they win, I definitely think they'll go 8-8 this season.
And it's sad that 8-8 would be considered good for the Skins :(
It would indeed have been sad in 1993...but by now it is just who they are under Snyder.
Quote from: derspiess on October 13, 2011, 09:22:44 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 12, 2011, 11:23:43 PM
I'm actually feeling a little confident about the Redskins game. They should pull a win despite being the underdog. If they win, I definitely think they'll go 8-8 this season.
And it's sad that 8-8 would be considered good for the Skins :(
If I were a bettin' man I'd definitely take the points in that game. Eagles haven't allowed less than 24 points in any game so far and the Redskins seem to be able to play just well enough to win.
I'd also take the points in Bills-Giants.
Who'd have thought that the biggest week 6 matchup would be the 49ers & Lions? :lol:
Hmm, I do have an Intrade account. But it doesn't look like you can bet on games there.
Stupid gambling laws. Damn Puritans trying to ruin everyone's fun :(
Tim Tebow to play the son of Bruce Willis in Die Hard 5! :lol:
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/10/12/2450637/broncos-qb-tim-tebow-being-considered.html
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Broncos QB Tim Tebow being considered to star in 'Die Hard' franchise
If the football thing doesn't work out, Tebow could take over Bruce Willis' role in the Die Hard series.
By LUISA YANEZ
[email protected]
The fifth movie in the Die Hard series — to be called A Good Day to Die Hard — will begin filming in January with Bruce Willis in the lead, maybe for the final time.
The movie's story line will be significant because its aim is to pass on the successful franchise to a younger actor, who will play action hero John McClane's son.
And among the names being floated to play Willis' son is Denver Broncos quarterback and former Florida Gator Tim Tebow.
The topic of Tebow came up Wednesday when Tom Rothman, co-chairman and CEO of Fox Filmed Entertainment announced the new film project exclusively on Wednesday on the syndicated sports show The Jim Rome Show, known as The Jungle.
"What do you think of Tebow in the lead?'' Rothman asked Rome and the listening audience. Rome did not give Tebow a thumbs up.
"He might be too nice," Rome said, referring to Tebow's wholesome reputation. "But no one would work harder to make it work." Rothmans says, regardless, he expects many young Hollywood actors to audition for the part. "We have to find just the right guy.''
Rothman admitted to Rome that with the latest movie, producers plan to bequeath the Die Hard franchise to a younger actor. Willis, now 56, starred in the first Die Hard in 1988 when he was in his early 30s.
Rothman said the latest plot has McClane, the veteran New York cop, traveling to the Soviet Union to rescue his son, who has run into trouble with authorities.
Father and son have a troubled relationship.
"They'll be trying to resolve their issues while fighting off bad guys,'' Rothman said. " And the movie will show that the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree.''
A Good Day to Die Hard is set for release on Valentine's Day 2013.
Quote from: Neil on October 12, 2011, 01:05:14 PM
(except for the Benedict Arnold Bowl).
:lol: Nice. I think I'll be pulling for the Raiders. They've got a chance to win the AFC West, whereas the Browns have almost no chance in the AFC North. Also, I think Holmgren is a dick and deserves to have more bad shit happen to him and his puppet squad of coaches.
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on October 14, 2011, 04:53:58 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 12, 2011, 01:05:14 PM
(except for the Benedict Arnold Bowl).
:lol: Nice. I think I'll be pulling for the Raiders. They've got a chance to win the AFC West, whereas the Browns have almost no chance in the AFC North. Also, I think Holmgren is a dick and deserves to have more bad shit happen to him and his puppet squad of coaches.
Yeah, the Raiders have to win the AFC West in order to keep the Chargers out of the playoffs.
Keepin it real on Al Davis
http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/7098616/rick-reilly-reflects-al-davis-commitment-honesty
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Commitment to Honesty
As you pass the casket at Maori funerals in New Zealand, you are encouraged to speak frankly to the dead man, sometimes even mentioning his faults, right out loud.
With all due respect to his life and legacy, I think we need a funeral like that for recently departed Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis -- a man I covered since I was 25.
Yes, Al Davis, 82, was a color-blind genius who changed the game. He was an original with guts and vision who "belongs on the pro football version of Mount Rushmore" (Adam Schefter, ESPN).
But somebody needs to come along and mention: He was about as warm as Rushmore granite, too. Utterly single-minded, he was a selfish egocentric who only liked you if you could help him. Mostly, Davis had all the charm of C. Montgomery Burns.
Yes, Al Davis' life should be celebrated. He was a maverick and an innovator, "the brains behind the AFL-NFL merger, the curator of the downfield passing game" (Bill Plaschke, Los Angeles Times).
But let's be sure to add: As ahead of the curve as he was in the '70s and '80s, he was that far behind in the last two decades. Davis had three winning seasons in the last 16. He was exactly like those Members Only jackets he wore -- fashionable once, dreadfully dated forever after.
Yes, Al Davis "was what all Raiders fans identified with" (SBNation.com).
And the rest of the league has had to live with them ever since. A Raiders jersey or jacket became gang uniform in Oakland and L.A. "The Black Hole" at Oakland games is about as disgusting a place as you can find. YouTube is lousy with guys in Raiders jerseys throwing haymakers. Now, there's talk that Davis' oldest son, Mark, may sell the Raiders to Philip Anschutz, who would move the team to Los Angeles. After what happened at Dodgers Stadium this year, you want to bring a thug element that would make Dodgers fans look like Our Gang? Better barricade I-5.
Yes, Al Davis had a "great eye for spotting talent" (SFExaminer.com), rescuing Jim Plunkett after the San Francisco 49ers waived him in 1977 and signing 13 Hall of Famers.
He was also the guy who spent a first-overall choice on QB JaMarcus Russell, the most booming bust in NFL history. Yet Davis fired his coach, Lane Kiffin, for choking at having Russell crammed down his throat. Davis mocked Kiffin for wanting to draft WR Calvin Johnson instead. Today, Russell is out of football and Johnson leads the NFL in touchdowns.
Yes, Al Davis was "infallibly loyal to his players and officials: to be a Raider was to be a Raider for life" (AP).
Except when he'd turn on them. He hired a former Raiders assistant, Tom Cable, as head coach, then fired him in 2010, the sixth coach he'd fired in nine seasons. He fired Mike Shanahan and never paid the remaining $250,000 on his contract. He fired Kiffin after less than two seasons and tried to weasel out on what remained of Kiffin's $6 million deal. He benched Hall of Fame RB Marcus Allen for two years for no other reason than jealousy, inspiring fans to wear "Free Marcus" T-shirts. Allen sued, then became the NFL Comeback Player of the Year in Kansas City. Prince of a guy, Al Davis.
Yes, Al Davis believed in "A Commitment to Excellence."
Yet he didn't demand it in himself. The facilities he put his teams in were among the shabbiest in the NFL. I covered the world champ '83 L.A. Raiders at an abandoned elementary school in El Segundo. I can remember Howie Long changing out of his pads in a dilapidated classroom. The Raiders' current headquarters in Oakland would make a lovely Goodwill store. And yet Davis constantly complained about the stadiums he was given -- the L.A. Coliseum and Oakland Alameda Coliseum -- to great profit. He suckered the city of Irwindale, Calif., out of $10 million with fake interest in moving his team there, then took $30 million from Oakland to come back.
Yes, Al Davis had "a deep love and passion for the game of football" (Oakland Raiders).
You sure couldn't tell in person. I sat in dozens of press boxes with Davis steaming in the back row, yelling, cussing and pounding his fists at the tiniest miscue. Even when he'd win, he looked miserable. I've known happier inmates.
Yes, Al Davis "made football a better game" (Mike Holmgren).
But not for everybody. He was as paranoid as a getaway driver. His PR staffs were routinely the most hamstrung in the league. Davis had no use for press or the fans they serviced. Once, at an AFC title game, a reporter he didn't recognize asked a question. Davis was livid. "Why should I talk to you?" he snarled. "I don't know where you're from! You could be from Florida! Or Afghanistan!" Perhaps Davis suspected the guy was as devious as he was. Once, as an assistant in San Diego, he posed as a reporter and asked a Buffalo Bill to diagram a play that had gone for a touchdown. He later used the play to score a touchdown -- against Buffalo.
Yes, Al Davis' catchy "Just win, baby" became a mantra that transcended sports.
Just win, baby, no matter who you trample to get there. The problem is, people take only so much trampling. In 1983, Davis could've had Stanford QB John Elway. Davis needed to work a three-way deal with Baltimore and Chicago, but the Bears despised him. So Broncos owner Edgar Kaiser, a man who knew less about football than Davis' housekeeper, snuck in at the last minute and got a player who would lead the team to five Super Bowls. Karma.
Yes, Al Davis could be "generous to a fault" (former Raider Warren Bankston). He took care of former Raiders who were hurting and even paid for the funeral of Kansas City Chief Derrick Thomas.
Yet after practices, Davis would routinely throw a towel down on the locker room floor and wait for somebody to clean his shoes. No please, no thank you. Just do it, baby. And grown men would.
Yes, Al Davis "bled silver and black" (CBS San Francisco).
Accent on the black.
QuoteOnce, as an assistant in San Diego, he posed as a reporter and asked a Buffalo Bill to diagram a play that had gone for a touchdown. He later used the play to score a touchdown -- against Buffalo.
Awesome :lol:
Yeah I thought it was really pathetic this guy who had been vilified and ripped in the press for all his insane hijinks suddenly became some sort of football icon as soon as he died.
I have to ask though: was flinging the ball deep really that big of an innovation even in the 60s? I thought back in the day most passes were designed to go for big yardage.
Finally able to see a game, apparently the American form of football is not something Australians care about. I got the gamepass weekly, and it's in great quality (I'm expecting a NFL overdosis).
The Seahawks are on a bye this week, I get to see the two most interesting games today (Det/SF and Dal/NE). Too bad CBS decided to show the Giants v Buffalo today, I was hoping for Houston and the Ravens.
Quote from: sbr on October 16, 2011, 12:02:53 PM
Too bad CBS decided to show the Giants v Buffalo today, I was hoping for Houston and the Ravens.
No doubleheader?
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 12:04:33 PM
Quote from: sbr on October 16, 2011, 12:02:53 PM
Too bad CBS decided to show the Giants v Buffalo today, I was hoping for Houston and the Ravens.
No doubleheader?
Fox has it this week.
Yep :(
Thank heaven for Sunday Ticket.
I've got the Giants vs Bills and the Lions vs 49ers. Pretty good games so far, especially the Bills with those big plays.
Watched a little of the Rams game. They should include the Benny Hill soundtrack when ever they play.
Green Bay should never be allowed to wear their throwbacks. Why do they insist on being so fucking stupid?
And the annual meltdown has begun. I knew the Eagles were going to crush the Skins.
Hey a pick for the Redskins. Looked up just in time to see that play. :)
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 01:47:09 PM
Green Bay should never be allowed to wear their throwbacks. Why do they insist on being so fucking stupid?
That is an ugly uniform.
Quote from: Valmy on October 16, 2011, 01:53:20 PM
And the annual meltdown has begun. I knew the Eagles were going to crush the Skins.
I enjoyed Kurt Coleman picking off the sex cannon. :)
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 16, 2011, 02:18:48 PM
I enjoyed Kurt Coleman picking off the sex cannon. :)
Sex Cannon status: Benched. :(
John Beck is in there slingin it into the ground. Which, to be fair, is better than slingin it to Eagles players.
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K. Coleman 3
http://www.youtube.com/embed/zfIt-EPfIyE
:)
Hey Derrick Mason already got banged up. Great. Back down to three WR's, I think, if he doesn't come back in.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 16, 2011, 03:10:58 PM
Hey Derrick Mason already got banged up. Great. Back down to three WR's, I think, if he doesn't come back in.
Is he hurt? He took a big hit, but that's what happens when you go over the middle.
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 03:13:24 PM
Is he hurt? He took a big hit, but that's what happens when you go over the middle.
He went to the bench immediately after the hit and had trainers hovering over him.
Bad pass by Schaub there.
If he doesn't come back (it didn't seem like it was a really bad injury, but you never know), the only active WRs on the roster that I'm aware of are Jacoby Jones, Kevin Walter, and Bryant Johnson. Same deal as last week, where they only had Jones, Walter, and Anderson (who was waived for Mason).
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 16, 2011, 03:14:16 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 03:13:24 PM
Is he hurt? He took a big hit, but that's what happens when you go over the middle.
He went to the bench immediately after the hit and had trainers hovering over him.
Bad pass by Schaub there.
Yeah. He'd been doing pretty well there. I sure was annoyed by that 15-yard run. Suggs has to keep contain.
Well, that's annoying. Mason's pretty tough though, so he'll probably play.
They sure got away with the intentional grounding there.
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 03:22:25 PM
They sure got away with the intentional grounding there.
:ultra:
The Texans are getting some shots on Flacco right now.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 16, 2011, 03:23:20 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 03:22:25 PM
They sure got away with the intentional grounding there.
:ultra:
The Texans are getting some shots on Flacco right now.
McKinnie would be advised not to turn everybody loose.
So, what's with all those personal fouls?
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 03:28:22 PM
So, what's with all those personal fouls?
Dunno. First two called on him this season, IIRC.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 16, 2011, 03:29:50 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 03:28:22 PM
So, what's with all those personal fouls?
Dunno. First two called on him this season, IIRC.
I didn't get a good look at the second one, but the first one was pretty flagrant.
Ray Rice should be careful talking smack to JJ Watt. Sure, Rice is the man, but Watt is a warrior in there.
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 03:31:48 PM
I didn't get a good look at the second one, but the first one was pretty flagrant.
He's probably pissed off about still being on the field during a drive that should have ended at the 40. ;)
And Mason surpasses Jacoby's receiving totals from last week. :lol: That didn't take long.
Schaub's looking speedy today. Heh.
Edit: moved to a post
Pass is thrown in the direction of Jacobi Jones. Punt upcoming.
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 03:42:02 PM
Pass is thrown in the direction of Jacobi Jones. Punt upcoming.
There you go Neil. Am I crazy, or are you seeing that too? Schaub isn't perfect, but the passes are just...off...when they head toward Jones. The dude seems to round everything off or something, and doesn't end up being quite where Schaub throws it.
Nice job, Jackson. Maybe try not to hang all over the WR next time, okay?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 16, 2011, 03:43:57 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 03:42:02 PM
Pass is thrown in the direction of Jacobi Jones. Punt upcoming.
There you go Neil. Am I crazy, or are you seeing that too? Schaub isn't perfect, but the passes are just...off...when they head toward Jones. The dude seems to round everything off or something, and doesn't end up being quite where Schaub throws it.
Nice job, Jackson. Maybe try not to hang all over the WR next time, okay?
Yeah. He had to come back on that, and then make a play. With a routerunner like Mason on there, he shouldn't even be on the field except as a decoy to run deep.
Wow. That wasn't even close. He barely got back to scrimmage, and I think Suggs took his legs out in the pile.
Lovely TD return from the Raiders, but the winner on that play was the raider fan who caught another Raider fan by the feet after he had fallen over the railing while celebrating. :lol:
Unfortunately, Mason might be limited in this one, since he only has a couple of days of practice.
I dislike not kicking the FG there. Still early, get some points.
Edit: Oooof. Huge facemask missed there.
Somebody needs to block on the line.
:blink: Holy shit. I like TD's, but just tossing it into the endzone so a lineman can pick it up isn't a good idea.
Terrible, terrible play by Reed. You need to get on that ball.
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 04:01:40 PM
Terrible, terrible play by Reed. You need to get on that ball.
Retarded TD aside, I'm still trying to figure out how Tate even got to that point in the first place. Looked like he had been stuffed at the LOS.
Okay this is getting ridiculous. Do they not understand that Barwin is a pass rusher?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 16, 2011, 04:05:00 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 04:01:40 PM
Terrible, terrible play by Reed. You need to get on that ball.
Retarded TD aside, I'm still trying to figure out how Tate even got to that point in the first place. Looked like he had been stuffed at the LOS.
Good second effort in the pile. He would have scored himself if he had held on.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 16, 2011, 04:07:45 PM
Okay this is getting ridiculous. Do they not understand that Barwin is a pass rusher?
It's like they don't understand how to block a 3-4.
That's a makeup no-call on the facemask, so they're even now.
Why is Ray Rice crying about a facemask that didn't happen? Easy to see on the replay.
Well, that Houston line has really come together after all these years, hasn't it? Remember when they were in the business of getting David Carr killed?
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 04:21:24 PM
Well, that Houston line has really come together after all these years, hasn't it? Remember when they were in the business of getting David Carr killed?
And they give up a sack. :lol:
It was crazy seeing someone on another board make a comment about how he wishes his team had an OL like the Texans. I still remember those commercials where it was Carr and the center out there all alone.
Doh. Foster with the drop.
Whoa. Joseph with a nice pick.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 16, 2011, 04:24:58 PM
Whoa. Joseph with a nice pick.
Yeah, he did a good job. Flacco really needs to work on not throwing high and behind his receviers. When they get tipped up like that, that's pretty much an automatic interception. Joseph actually had to work pretty hard to get that one though.
:lol: Look at all those "names" the Texans had down there in the endzone for that play. I hope Andre Johnson is back next week.
Jim Schwartz almost threw down with Jim Harbaugh after the game.
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 04:37:04 PM
Jim Schwartz almost threw down with Jim Harbaugh after the game.
Just saw that. Hilarious. I totally support coach fights.
Man, great motor on #94 running that one down.
What happened between the coaches exactly?
Quote from: Alcibiades on October 16, 2011, 04:52:30 PM
What happened between the coaches exactly?
Harbaugh was a little rough with Schwartz, and might have said something a little rude.
:blink:
Okay. Credit where it's due: Jones did a nice job getting open and making the catch. Nice throw by Schaub too.
This reminds me of the last time these two teams played. Baltimore is just having a bitch of a time pressuring Schaub, and those short turnaround routes are wide open.
edit: And as soon as I say that, a sack. And immediately afterwards, a long completion.
Texans are doing really good attacking the run.
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 05:18:27 PM
Texans are doing really good attacking the run.
No problem. Just throw bombs.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 16, 2011, 05:19:44 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 05:18:27 PM
Texans are doing really good attacking the run.
No problem. Just throw bombs.
If Flacco can avoid getting sacked.
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 05:20:19 PM
If Flacco can avoid getting sacked.
He did a nice job on that 3rd down play. Sure, it was an incompletion, but he avoided getting destroyed by the three guys who were coming for him, and all the bad things that come with that.
Some doctor on the Texans boards is saying those stretches Schaub is doing on the sidelines are for an injured back.
I didn't like that call.
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 05:27:53 PM
I didn't like that call.
I don't either. Holding while the ball is in the air should be PI, yes? Normally I would say there's no need fuck with Jacoby's route since he won't run it and make the catch anyway, but he's actually having a pretty good game.
Nice play by Pollard there. Foster should still have caught that.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 16, 2011, 05:33:01 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 05:27:53 PM
I didn't like that call.
Normally I would say there's no need fuck with Jacoby's route since he won't run it and make the catch anyway, but he's actually having a pretty good game.
I don't think that ball was catchable for him anyways, but what can you do.
Nice play by Pollard there. That's a pretty big play. Leach had a good first quarter too, but since then Houston has really been closing down on the run lanes.
Hm. Dominique Barber, special teams guy, being carted off. Wonder what happened to him.
That's a really good catch, but not a first down.
Edit: Uh. WTF. Okay Ravens fans can never, ever cry about the refs again. Hey nice delay of game too.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 16, 2011, 05:58:52 PM
That's a really good catch, but not a first down.
Edit: Uh. WTF. Ravens fans can never, ever cry about the refs again.
The result was right, but it looked to me like he got a toe down. The one angle that was behind him showed his toe coming right close to the ground, and even though no turf chips got tossed up, it still looks like it's down. All the other angles made it look like he stepped on Gorrer's foot.
The spot was total horseshit though. No matter what, the right call was a turnover on downs, although I guess that the extra yards might have made a longer, harder field goal. And those three points are basically the end of the game.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 16, 2011, 04:22:56 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 04:21:24 PM
Well, that Houston line has really come together after all these years, hasn't it? Remember when they were in the business of getting David Carr killed?
And they give up a sack. :lol:
It was crazy seeing someone on another board make a comment about how he wishes his team had an OL like the Texans. I still remember those commercials where it was Carr and the center out there all alone.
Doh. Foster with the drop.
That sounds hilarious, what were they for?
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 06:06:11 PM
The result was right, but it looked to me like he got a toe down. The one angle that was behind him showed his toe coming right close to the ground, and even though no turf chips got tossed up, it still looks like it's down. All the other angles made it look like he stepped on Gorrer's foot.
The spot was total horseshit though. No matter what, the right call was a turnover on downs, although I guess that the extra yards might have made a longer, harder field goal. And those three points are basically the end of the game.
Also tack on another 5 for the delay of game that was absolutely ignored. It's not changing the outcome, but no more bitching about the refs.
Edit:
QuoteThat sounds hilarious, what were they for?
I think they were ESPN commercials for....something. It was like "Missing something!?" and there's Carr taking the snap from the center with no other Texans players on the screen. Pretty funny commercial. Maybe some sort of phone app or that bottom line ticker thing you can put on your computer.
There was another one for a Texas based grocery store (H-E-B) where Carr is just carrying all his groceries with no bags, with shit dropping everywhere, etc, because he "doesn't like sacks," or something similar.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 16, 2011, 06:10:58 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 06:06:11 PM
The result was right, but it looked to me like he got a toe down. The one angle that was behind him showed his toe coming right close to the ground, and even though no turf chips got tossed up, it still looks like it's down. All the other angles made it look like he stepped on Gorrer's foot.
The spot was total horseshit though. No matter what, the right call was a turnover on downs, although I guess that the extra yards might have made a longer, harder field goal. And those three points are basically the end of the game.
Also tack on another 5 for the delay of game that was absolutely ignored. It's not changing the outcome, but no more bitching about the refs.
Delay of game? They get a second past when the playclock runs out, and the clock was a fraction of a second behind. As soon as the two-minute warning hits, it's an automatic timeout. If that's the one you're talking about, that's a good no-call.
I thought that was a good game. It was a real nailbiter right up to the last 6 minutes or so.
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 06:14:14 PM
Delay of game? They get a second past when the playclock runs out, and the clock was a fraction of a second behind. As soon as the two-minute warning hits, it's an automatic timeout. If that's the one you're talking about, that's a good no-call.
Oh no, it's fine. I'm cool with the playclock hitting zero with no fl...wait what?
Again: No Raven whining about the refs anymore. :sleep: It's a good W for them, and I'm not about to say the missed calls would make a difference because there's no way to know, but STFU about the league fixing anything against the Ravens.
Woo! Hernandez!
Who the hell is Hernandez?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 16, 2011, 06:17:14 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 06:14:14 PM
Delay of game? They get a second past when the playclock runs out, and the clock was a fraction of a second behind. As soon as the two-minute warning hits, it's an automatic timeout. If that's the one you're talking about, that's a good no-call.
Oh no, it's fine. I'm cool with the playclock hitting zero with no fl...wait what?
That's the system, and it's like that for every team in the league. There's always an extra half-second to a second before the flag is thrown.
QuoteAgain: No Raven whining about the refs anymore. :sleep: It's a good W for them, and I'm not about to say the missed calls would make a difference because there's no way to know, but STFU about the league fixing anything against the Ravens.
I reserve the right to complain about the refs, especially when the Ravens play the Steelers in Pittsburgh.
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 06:23:54 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 16, 2011, 06:17:14 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 06:14:14 PM
Delay of game? They get a second past when the playclock runs out, and the clock was a fraction of a second behind. As soon as the two-minute warning hits, it's an automatic timeout. If that's the one you're talking about, that's a good no-call.
Oh no, it's fine. I'm cool with the playclock hitting zero with no fl...wait what?
That's the system, and it's like that for every team in the league. There's always an extra half-second to a second before the flag is thrown.
Sort of. According to Berkut the official in charge of watching the clock watches the clock hit zero then looks to see if the ball has been snapped. If it hasn't a flag is thrown, so there can be a delay after the clock hits zero.
And Harbaugh is an ass, that is at least the second time I have seen him in a scuffle with another coach after a game.
Quote from: sbr on October 16, 2011, 06:42:57 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 06:23:54 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 16, 2011, 06:17:14 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 06:14:14 PM
Delay of game? They get a second past when the playclock runs out, and the clock was a fraction of a second behind. As soon as the two-minute warning hits, it's an automatic timeout. If that's the one you're talking about, that's a good no-call.
Oh no, it's fine. I'm cool with the playclock hitting zero with no fl...wait what?
That's the system, and it's like that for every team in the league. There's always an extra half-second to a second before the flag is thrown.
Sort of. According to Berkut the official in charge of watching the clock watches the clock hit zero then looks to see if the ball has been snapped. If it hasn't a flag is thrown, so there can be a delay after the clock hits zero.
Yeah, that's how it works. But by the time he's looked, the ref has already called the two minute warning.
You guys lay off Tim. Hernandez is an awesome tight end.
And he happens to be on my LFFL team.
Quote from: sbr on October 16, 2011, 06:44:36 PM
And Harbaugh is an ass, that is at least the second time I have seen him in a scuffle with another coach after a game.
Really? Who was the other one?
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 06:46:12 PM
Quote from: sbr on October 16, 2011, 06:44:36 PM
And Harbaugh is an ass, that is at least the second time I have seen him in a scuffle with another coach after a game.
Really? Who was the other one?
Pete Carrol at USC. It wasn't as bad as this one and scuffle might even be too strong a word but there was definetely an incident.
Quote from: derspiess on October 16, 2011, 06:45:27 PM
You guys lay off Tim. Hernandez is an awesome tight end.
And he happens to be on my LFFL team.
Fantasy football is gay.
Quote from: derspiess on October 16, 2011, 06:45:27 PM
You guys lay off Tim. Hernandez is an awesome tight end.
And he happens to be on my LFFL team.
Any time that Tim makes an appearance in a football thread, he must face total and complete degradation. Patriotard assholes have no place in this world.
I think I got my game in LFFL. Brandon Jacobs getting injured worked to my advantage.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 16, 2011, 06:53:15 PM
Fantasy football is gay.
I dunno. It was a lot more fun before the football media and the league put their whole marketing muscle behind it. Now, I can't watch the NFL network without 6 dozen commercials for NFL.com fantasy football and they have whole shows about it. And the funny thing is that any other kind of gambling, the NFL would come down like a ton of bricks.
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 07:01:53 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 16, 2011, 06:53:15 PM
Fantasy football is gay.
I dunno. It was a lot more fun before the football media and the league put their whole marketing muscle behind it. Now, I can't watch the NFL network without 6 dozen commercials for NFL.com fantasy football and they have whole shows about it. And the funny thing is that any other kind of gambling, the NFL would come down like a ton of bricks.
I've noticed that FF leads to bandwagoneering. And not watching a game for enjoyment, just watching the damn stat boxes.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 16, 2011, 07:05:50 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 07:01:53 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 16, 2011, 06:53:15 PM
Fantasy football is gay.
I dunno. It was a lot more fun before the football media and the league put their whole marketing muscle behind it. Now, I can't watch the NFL network without 6 dozen commercials for NFL.com fantasy football and they have whole shows about it. And the funny thing is that any other kind of gambling, the NFL would come down like a ton of bricks.
I've noticed that FF leads to bandwagoneering. And not watching a game for enjoyment, just watching the damn stat boxes.
Yeah, that's true. NFL Red Zone owes it's existence to the fantasy craze.
:hmm: I wonder how many hits Cutler is going to take in this one.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 16, 2011, 07:23:56 PM
:hmm: I wonder how many hits Cutler is going to take in this one.
A kajillion. That line is an abomination.
Wow.
They've already burned a timeout 36 seconds into the game.
e:
QuoteA kajillion. That line is an abomination.
Yeah it's pretty ugly. I decided last week that Cutler isn't the pussy some Bears fans seem to imply.
QuoteThey've already burned a timeout 36 seconds into the game.
Mike Singletary shakes his head.
It also doesn't help that Roy Williams is a total ineffective chump.
Holy crap.
Well I guess that's one way to do it. Nice play.
Edit: Haha Cutler: "Yeah 50 yard touchdown pass on the numbers, nbd"
"Jared Allen...Culinary Institute"
:lol:
The Vikings really need to get their shit together.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 16, 2011, 08:01:50 PM
The Vikings really need to get their shit together.
Yeah, it's pretty ugly. McNabb isn't really that good anymore, but he's also got almost no help from anyone on the team whose initials aren't AP.
Quote from: Neil on October 16, 2011, 08:06:38 PM
Yeah, it's pretty ugly. McNabb isn't really that good anymore, but he's also got almost no help from anyone on the team whose initials aren't AP.
Had to go on a smoke run that took longer than usual due to fucking with people on rice rockets (driving 20-25mph in a 35 with them behind me), but I got back in time to see a sweet ~18 yard punt and now a nice catch for another Bears TD. But hey! The Vikes got 3!
Oh the stupid London game is next week? I'd forgotten about that.
As dissapointing as the skins can be, at least theyre not the vikings.
even mcnabbs mom walked out of the game :lol:
i still thinks the skins can manage 8-8.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 16, 2011, 10:47:29 PM
As dissapointing as the skins can be, at least theyre not the vikings.
:(
Quote from: Barrister on October 16, 2011, 11:04:03 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 16, 2011, 10:47:29 PM
As dissapointing as the skins can be, at least theyre not the vikings.
:(
:console:
At least the Vikings arent the Rams. Or Dolphins. Or Colts.
Quote from: derspiess on October 13, 2011, 09:22:44 AM
If I were a bettin' man I'd definitely take the points in that game. Eagles haven't allowed less than 24 points in any game so far and the Redskins seem to be able to play just well enough to win.
I'd also take the points in Bills-Giants.
Good thing I'm not a bettin' man. I guess Bills-Giants was a push, at least.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 16, 2011, 10:47:29 PM
As dissapointing as the skins can be, at least theyre not the vikings.
even mcnabbs mom walked out of the game :lol:
i still thinks the skins can manage 8-8.
Fortunately that just might be good enough to win the NFC East this year.
How about the Sex Cannon there in Warshington Val? :lol:
If the Colts have the first draft choice, do you guys think they pick Luck or Trade down?
Sure, they need a replacement QB but they don't need a bluechip QB.
Their owner came out and said they would draft Luck if they had the chance. I'll look for a link.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 17, 2011, 11:04:50 AM
How about the Sex Cannon there in Warshington Val? :lol:
That is what you get with Grossman. He looks fine for a few games then bad Grossman shows up and shits the bed.
Quote from: Valmy on October 17, 2011, 11:11:12 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 17, 2011, 11:04:50 AM
How about the Sex Cannon there in Warshington Val? :lol:
That is what you get with Grossman. He looks fine for a few games then bad Grossman shows up and shits the bed.
He made a mediocre in coverage safety look like Ed Reed. :lol:
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 17, 2011, 11:15:32 AM
He made a mediocre in coverage safety look like Ed Reed. :lol:
So we brought out Beck and his magical underpants and he started throwing the ball into the ground. It was an improvement.
Well, it looks like the refs have decided to end the Jets losing streak. I don't know how you can non-call that, unless you're dazzled by Revis' star power.
I got home and turned the game on just in time to see a go ahead TD pass fly through Brandon Marshall's hands. Who's the Miami QB? Did they say Moore? As in Matt Moore?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 17, 2011, 08:28:09 PM
I got home and turned the game on just in time to see a go ahead TD pass fly through Brandon Marshall's hands. Who's the Miami QB? Did they say Moore? As in Matt Moore?
Yup.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 17, 2011, 08:29:42 PM
Yup.
Ah okay. I see we've got a real offensive shootout on our hands here, looking a the box score. 19 total yards for the Jets? Good god.
Quote from: Valmy on October 17, 2011, 11:03:54 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 16, 2011, 10:47:29 PM
As dissapointing as the skins can be, at least theyre not the vikings.
even mcnabbs mom walked out of the game :lol:
i still thinks the skins can manage 8-8.
Fortunately that just might be good enough to win the NFC East this year.
I think Giants will win it and Skins come in2nd. if the Skins place third it will be because they cant beat the other NFC east teams.
Holy shit. A Dolphin actually caught a ball without dropping it.
Woohoo, NOLO lost. :)
Despite all indications to the contrary, I have a good feeling about the Palmer trade to Oakland actually happening :)
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 17, 2011, 08:35:22 PM
I think Giants will win it and Skins come in2nd. if the Skins place third it will be because they cant beat the other NFC east teams.
As much as I hate to say it I think Dallas is the best team in the division...but hopefully they continue to choke each game away.
Quote from: derspiess on October 18, 2011, 08:58:36 AM
Despite all indications to the contrary, I have a good feeling about the Palmer trade to Oakland actually happening :)
""AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Carson Palmer to the Raiders now official. Compensation expected to be a 1 in 2012 and a conditional 1 in 2013.""
Quote from: JacobL on October 18, 2011, 09:36:02 AM
Quote from: derspiess on October 18, 2011, 08:58:36 AM
Despite all indications to the contrary, I have a good feeling about the Palmer trade to Oakland actually happening :)
""AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Carson Palmer to the Raiders now official. Compensation expected to be a 1 in 2012 and a conditional 1 in 2013.""
:)
Last week I was telling someone that at this point Palmer might have more leverage if he threatened to show up-- The Bengals would have to either play him & disrupt the momentum Dalton has helped build or pay him big bucks just to sit on the bench.
Ridiculous trade! :lol:
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Wow the Bengals just got two first round picks for Carson Palmer? :lmfao:
That's a pretty awesome trade for Cincy. :lol:
No kidding. Maybe next they can trade McFadden for some magic beans.
:bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: Fuck it, I'm one bad move from being done with them. I thought Al dying would be a glimmer of hope and a move toward fewer retarded, team/franchise breaking decisions. WRONG! The awfulness continues, and if anything escalates.
Quote from: Neil on October 18, 2011, 11:35:54 AM
No kidding. Maybe next they can trade McFadden for some magic beans.
Didn't they want Ochocinco? The Pats would be willing to trade him for Ochocinco I bet! :yes:
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on October 18, 2011, 01:00:35 PM
:bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: Fuck it, I'm one bad move from being done with them. I thought Al dying would be a glimmer of hope and a move toward fewer retarded, team/franchise breaking decisions. WRONG! The awfulness continues, and if anything escalates.
:console: I guess it doesn't help things to know we've only used Gradkowski for half a game thus far.
Anyway, I think/hope Palmer will do well with a change of scenery. He's a great guy & sometimes moving to a different team sparks whatever a QB has left in the tank.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 18, 2011, 01:08:25 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 18, 2011, 11:35:54 AM
No kidding. Maybe next they can trade McFadden for some magic beans.
Didn't they want Ochocinco? The Pats would be willing to trade him for Ochocinco I bet! :yes:
I had not watched Chad play much this year until last Sunday, and-- yikes. He's still forgetting his routes. If he weren't so distracted by himself he'd already have a hall of fame career by now.
The quitter is gone. :)
And Mike Brown doing good? Unpossible.
For their 2012 1st round pick from the Raiders, the Bengals select...
"A block of cheese"
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 18, 2011, 03:54:25 PM
For their 2012 1st round pick from the Raiders, the Bengals select...
"A block of cheese"
I wonder if it comes with a stipulation that you have to use it on the guy with the fastest 40 time?
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 18, 2011, 03:54:25 PM
For their 2012 1st round pick from the Raiders, the Bengals select...
"A block of cheese"
If that block of cheese can run for 4+ yards a carry against weak run defenses & can go at least 4 or 5 years without being arrested, it would be an upgrade over the current starting RB. :ph34r:
Palmer will be starting on Sunday against the Chiefs: http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/32816334
They really don't like Kyle Boller.
Should I start Hasselbeck against the Texans or Palmer against the Chiefs? :hmm:
Hasselback
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 19, 2011, 01:01:08 PM
They really don't like Kyle Boller.
Well, they've spent a shitton on Carson, so feel they need to get him in there ASAP. We'll see how well that works for them, but I'm guessing not that well. Still, when you have a run game that potent, it helps a lot.
Still, it makes you wonder. If the Raiders have no faith whatsoever in Boller, he probably shouldn't be on the team.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 19, 2011, 02:30:20 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on October 19, 2011, 02:04:14 PM
Hasselback
The Chiefs suck though.
Palmer doesn't know the offence and has been out of football.
But then again, we could be trying to trick you, because of your Brady-loving ways. You never know.
I like the fact that Harbaugh took responsibility for the coach vs. coach smackdown.
Quote from: Neil on October 19, 2011, 02:38:53 PM
Palmer doesn't know the offence and has been out of football.
I would have to think he'd have some familiarity with whatever offense Hue Jackson is running in Oakland, given the history the two have. And I'm sure they'll start out with some simplified sets & plays for his first game. Hell, it's against the Chiefs defense. You could probably get away with running the same play the entire game.
Agree though that if they have that little faith in Boller he shouldn't be on the team. Might as well grab some UFA QB and pay him the league minimum.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 19, 2011, 02:47:13 PM
I like the fact that Harbaugh took responsibility for the coach vs. coach smackdown.
Given that he started it, he certainly ought to.
Lol, Herm just called Romo's throw a "Fail Mary" :XD:
I must confess I get Herm Edwards and Tony Dungy confused with each other-- until they start talking. Herm's the kind of guy who would scare me even if he was yelling at the guy next to me, while Dungy makes me drowsy before he's finished with his first sentence.
Quote from: derspiess on October 19, 2011, 03:26:48 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 19, 2011, 02:38:53 PM
Palmer doesn't know the offence and has been out of football.
I would have to think he'd have some familiarity with whatever offense Hue Jackson is running in Oakland, given the history the two have. And I'm sure they'll start out with some simplified sets & plays for his first game. Hell, it's against the Chiefs defense. You could probably get away with running the same play the entire game.
Agree though that if they have that little faith in Boller he shouldn't be on the team. Might as well grab some UFA QB and pay him the league minimum.
Divisional games are always tougher though. If it was Bengals vs. Chiefs I would say 'no worries', but Raiders is different. Then again, I suppose the running game will help.
Quote from: derspiess on October 19, 2011, 03:59:45 PM
I must confess I get Herm Edwards and Tony Dungy confused with each other-- until they start talking. Herm's the kind of guy who would scare me even if he was yelling at the guy next to me, while Dungy makes me drowsy before he's finished with his first sentence.
:lol: Yeah, Tony makes me wonder sometimes if he's just constantly taking sedatives.
You know, I'm surprised that Herm isn't working at some level in football right now.
Tony Dungy's holier than thou act annoys me.
<_<
Seven Texans starters are on the injury report for this week (not including Mario Williams, who is on IR now). Cushing, Casey, Johnson, Joseph, Manning, Ryans, and Schaub. Cushing and Joseph are probables with full practice, the rest are questionable with limited or no practice.
Holy fuck. Williams, Cushing, Ryans, Joseph and Manning. Isn't that pretty much all the good vets on the team? When's the bye?
Pretty much. Antonio Smith is still there, and he's having a solid season, but that's about it for uninjured (or as much as possible in the NFL). The bye isn't until week 11, so no help there.
Redskins will start Beck next game. How long until he screws up enough and they put the Sex Cannon back in?
Quote from: Neil on October 19, 2011, 04:40:55 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 19, 2011, 03:59:45 PM
I must confess I get Herm Edwards and Tony Dungy confused with each other-- until they start talking. Herm's the kind of guy who would scare me even if he was yelling at the guy next to me, while Dungy makes me drowsy before he's finished with his first sentence.
:lol: Yeah, Tony makes me wonder sometimes if he's just constantly taking sedatives.
You know, I'm surprised that Herm isn't working at some level in football right now.
I think guys are starting to realize how good they have it with TV jobs and how bad NFL head coaching jobs really are. Gruden, Cowher, Dungy, Edwards (I assume there are others but I can't think of any) could have almost any NFL job they wanted but seem very content to stay on the sane side of things and remain in front of the camera. I wouldn't be surprised to see one or more of them end up with a college job before they take another NFL one.
It probably doesn't help that most of the head coach jobs that come open are for basketcase teams. Who wants to coach in Miami, after all? But yeah, a fired head coach is getting paid big money not to coach, so for guys like Edwards, TV is a dream come true. I know for a fact that's why Billick didn't try to get a job for a few years after getting fired and became a commentator. Jim Mora is another one, and Denny Green is on TV these days too. I really like Steve Mariucci on the NFL Network. Dick Vermeil was part of ESPN's second-string unit, and a pretty good colour guy. And of course there was Madden.
Mangina is being paid 3.2 million/yr for the next two years by the Browns so he ain't going anywhere either.
Is he actually doing any broadcasting? He seems like he's just disappeared.
Quote from: Neil on October 20, 2011, 07:53:36 AM
Is he actually doing any broadcasting? He seems like he's just disappeared.
ESPN.
Quote from: Neil on October 20, 2011, 07:53:36 AM
Is he actually doing any broadcasting? He seems like he's just disappeared.
I heard him on some radio show a couple days ago.