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Title: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 07:04:20 PM
We're getting so close to finding the grail.  :cool:

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/41258
QuoteIs exoplanet a 'waterworld'?

Dec 16, 2009

A distant waterworld?

The best evidence yet of a planet beyond our solar system that is about the same size and temperature as the Earth has been released by a team of international astronomers. Preliminary measurements of the exoplanet's temperature, mass and radius suggest that it made almost entirely of liquid water – although it could have a small rocky core.

The exoplanet is called GJ 1214b and was spotted by David Charbonneau and colleagues at Harvard University along with researchers in the US, Denmark, Switzerland and France.

GJ 1214b circles a nearby "M dwarf" star that is much smaller than our Sun. The exoplanet is about 2.5 times the diameter of Earth and about 6.5 times Earth's mass.

It orbits its star once every 1.6 days at a distance of about 15 stellar radii. The Earth, by contrast, is about 215 solar radii from the Sun.
Liquid planet

Together, these parameters suggest that GJ 1214b has the same density of water – and Charbonneau told physicsworld.com that it is very likely that the exoplanet is made entirely of liquid water.

The team believes that the surface temperature of the exoplanet is somewhere between 120 and 280 °C. While this is well above the boiling point of water on Earth, Charbonneau says that the higher gravitational field – and hence pressure – would ensure liquid water.

Another possibility is that the planet has a small rocky core surrounded by a massive water ocean and finally an outer atmosphere of hydrogen and helium. However, this view cannot be verified because the team has not been able to study the composition of the planet in any detail.

That would require the use of a space telescope such as Hubble to look for tiny absorption and emission lines in starlight that passes through the exoplanet's atmosphere on its way to Earth. Charbonneau and colleagues have applied for time on Hubble and hope to do such a study next year.
Off the shelf

Although expensive instruments like Hubble will be required to learn more about GJ 1214b, the planet was in fact discovered using an array of eight "off-the-shelf" 16-inch telescopes installed at the F L Whipple Observatory on Mt Hopkins, Arizona. Dubbed the MEarth Observatory, the telescopes are robotically controlled to systematically study known M dwarf stars, which are much smaller and dimmer than the Sun.

GJ 1214b was detected by MEarth because its star's brightness varied when measured on successive days – because some of the starlight is blocked by the exoplanet. MEarth is led by Charbonneau, who described it as a "risky thing to do". However, it appears to be worth it because GJ 1214b was discovered just three months into the planned three-year observational run.
Fantastic stuff

Frederic Pont, an astronomer at the University of Exeter in the UK, thinks that MEarth is "a fantastic project" and that the discovery of GJ 1214b is "more convincing" than that of CoRoT 7b, which is the smallest known exoplanet.

Although GJ 1214b is larger than CoRoT 7b, it is cool enough to have liquid water – an important precursor for life. In addition, the evidence for GJ 1214b is much more conclusive than CoRoT 7b, the existence of which was based on data analysis techniques that have been questioned by some astronomers.

The research is reported in Nature.
About the author

Hamish Johnston is editor of physicsworld.com
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Jacob on December 16, 2009, 07:14:19 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 07:04:20 PM
We're getting so close to finding the grail.  :cool:

What do you mean?  It's not fucking around in space, it's in Avalon, awaiting King Arthur.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Faeelin on December 16, 2009, 07:25:51 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 16, 2009, 07:14:19 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 07:04:20 PM
We're getting so close to finding the grail.  :cool:

What do you mean?  It's not fucking around in space, it's in Avalon, awaiting King Arthur.

My understanding from Stargate is that the grail is fucking around in space, actually.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 07:26:06 PM
Quotegrail  (grl)
n.
1. Grail A cup or plate that, according to medieval legend, was used by Jesus at the Last Supper and that later became the object of many chivalrous quests. Also called Holy Grail.
2. often Grail The object of a prolonged endeavor.

I'm obviously using definition 2, the Grail in this instance being an Earth like planet that harbors life.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Ed Anger on December 16, 2009, 07:30:15 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 07:26:06 PM
Quotegrail  (grl)
n.
1. Grail A cup or plate that, according to medieval legend, was used by Jesus at the Last Supper and that later became the object of many chivalrous quests. Also called Holy Grail.
2. often Grail The object of a prolonged endeavor.

I'm obviously using definition 2, the Grail in this instance being an Earth like planet that harbors life.

No shit sherlock.

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Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 07:34:12 PM
He's fluent, but he's not a native speaker, he might not know.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Ed Anger on December 16, 2009, 07:35:22 PM
<insert additional facepalms>
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Eddie Teach on December 16, 2009, 07:37:43 PM
Ah, so the oceans were formed from the blood of Jesus?
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Sahib on December 16, 2009, 07:56:23 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 07:26:06 PM
Quotegrail  (grl)
n.
1. Grail A cup or plate that, according to medieval legend, was used by Jesus at the Last Supper and that later became the object of many chivalrous quests. Also called Holy Grail.
2. often Grail The object of a prolonged endeavor.

I'm obviously using definition 2, the Grail in this instance being an Earth like planet that harbors life.

Meh. The temperatures are to high :(
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Fate on December 16, 2009, 08:03:02 PM
The Earth has hyperthermophiles that thrive at temperatures of up to 122°C. If there is sufficient pressure to keep water in its liquid phase, I wouldn't be surprised to see life existing at even higher temperatures.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on December 16, 2009, 08:27:23 PM
Is it Kevin Costner's homeworld?
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Jacob on December 16, 2009, 08:31:54 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 07:34:12 PM
He's fluent, but he's not a native speaker, he might not know.

:lol:

You're a fucking retard.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: PDH on December 16, 2009, 08:54:31 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 16, 2009, 08:31:54 PM
You're a fucking retard.
Given enough time, everyone on this board will make this post about something tim says.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Jacob on December 16, 2009, 09:03:18 PM
Quote from: PDH on December 16, 2009, 08:54:31 PMGiven enough time, everyone on this board will make this post about something tim says.

I'm pretty sure that happened back in '06.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Neil on December 16, 2009, 09:10:03 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 07:26:06 PM
Quotegrail  (grl)
n.
1. Grail A cup or plate that, according to medieval legend, was used by Jesus at the Last Supper and that later became the object of many chivalrous quests. Also called Holy Grail.
2. often Grail The object of a prolonged endeavor.

I'm obviously using definition 2, the Grail in this instance being an Earth like planet that harbors life.
How do you determine if a planet harbours life?
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 09:40:28 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 16, 2009, 08:31:54 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 07:34:12 PM
He's fluent, but he's not a native speaker, he might not know.

:lol:

You're a fucking retard.
:huh: Just trying to be nice.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 09:41:06 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 16, 2009, 09:10:03 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 07:26:06 PM
Quotegrail  (grl)
n.
1. Grail A cup or plate that, according to medieval legend, was used by Jesus at the Last Supper and that later became the object of many chivalrous quests. Also called Holy Grail.
2. often Grail The object of a prolonged endeavor.

I'm obviously using definition 2, the Grail in this instance being an Earth like planet that harbors life.
How do you determine if a planet harbours life?
Spectral analysis of the atmosphere.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: katmai on December 16, 2009, 09:46:01 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 07:34:12 PM
He's fluent, but he's not a native speaker, he might not know.

I've met Jake in person and yes his grasp of the English language after something like 20 years in Canada is surprisingly bad!


:P
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Caliga on December 16, 2009, 09:49:37 PM
Dudes, come on.... Timmy was trying to be considerate. :mellow:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: katmai on December 16, 2009, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: Caliga on December 16, 2009, 09:49:37 PM
Dudes, come on.... Timmy was trying to be considerate. :mellow:

This is Languish, we don't do that. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Caliga on December 16, 2009, 09:53:05 PM
Timmy is a kind hearted young man.  You and Jacob should be ashamed of yourselves.  :mad:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Neil on December 16, 2009, 09:54:03 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 09:41:06 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 16, 2009, 09:10:03 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 07:26:06 PM
Quotegrail  (grl)
n.
1. Grail A cup or plate that, according to medieval legend, was used by Jesus at the Last Supper and that later became the object of many chivalrous quests. Also called Holy Grail.
2. often Grail The object of a prolonged endeavor.

I'm obviously using definition 2, the Grail in this instance being an Earth like planet that harbors life.
How do you determine if a planet harbours life?
Spectral analysis of the atmosphere.
Wouldn't work.  Next.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Grallon on December 16, 2009, 09:57:44 PM
Quote from: Caliga on December 16, 2009, 09:53:05 PM
Timmy is a kind hearted young man.  You and Jacob should be ashamed of yourselves.  :mad:


Yeah!  And he's got a great smile!  Should he convert he'd become one of the elite gay squad - Terrors of the universe!

Seriously boys, lay off the lad will ya?!  He's got a good heart!





G.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: katmai on December 16, 2009, 10:00:24 PM
Considering my post was a sarcastic dig at jacob, both Cal and Grallon need to lighten up. :lol:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Caliga on December 16, 2009, 10:03:24 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 16, 2009, 10:00:24 PM
Considering my post was a sarcastic dig at jacob, both Cal and Grallon need to lighten up. :lol:
No!  :mad:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 16, 2009, 10:04:54 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 16, 2009, 10:00:24 PM
Considering my post was a sarcastic dig at jacob, both Cal and Grallon need to lighten up. :lol:
The second things heat up he cuts 'n' runs. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: katmai on December 16, 2009, 10:06:56 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 16, 2009, 10:04:54 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 16, 2009, 10:00:24 PM
Considering my post was a sarcastic dig at jacob, both Cal and Grallon need to lighten up. :lol:
The second things heat up he cuts 'n' runs. :rolleyes:

No really I wasn't even trying to make fun of Timmay, he does well enough at that on his own.

:D
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Caliga on December 16, 2009, 10:07:56 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 16, 2009, 10:04:54 PM
The second things heat up he cuts 'n' runs. :rolleyes:
Who, Timmy?  It's past his bedtime :)
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 10:27:15 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 16, 2009, 09:46:01 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 07:34:12 PM
He's fluent, but he's not a native speaker, he might not know.

I've met Jake in person and yes his grasp of the English language after something like 20 years in Canada is surprisingly bad!


:P

My Dad's been here for 40 years and speaks English now better then he speaks Spanish, but that doesn't mean I don't stump him sometimes with obscure vocab or refrences.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 10:28:08 PM
Quote from: Caliga on December 16, 2009, 10:07:56 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 16, 2009, 10:04:54 PM
The second things heat up he cuts 'n' runs. :rolleyes:
Who, Timmy?  It's past his bedtime :)
It's 12:28pm here, lunch break.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Jacob on December 16, 2009, 10:37:09 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 10:27:15 PMMy Dad's been here for 40 years and speaks English now better then he speaks Spanish, but that doesn't mean I don't stump him sometimes with obscure vocab or refrences.

Not everyone is as stupid as your dad.

If I had for a moment thought you were trying to be deliberately insulting I would have given you props.  It was pretty funny.  But you seem to not get it at all, which is why I have to stand by calling you a fucking retard.  Saying that you're trying to be nice just cements that fact.

I don't doubt that you have a good heart, but you're a good-hearted retard.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: katmai on December 16, 2009, 10:41:04 PM
Oh watch out Jake, now you'll have Caliga and Grallon on you!
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 10:44:19 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 16, 2009, 10:37:09 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 10:27:15 PMMy Dad's been here for 40 years and speaks English now better then he speaks Spanish, but that doesn't mean I don't stump him sometimes with obscure vocab or refrences.

Not everyone is as stupid as your dad.

If I had for a moment thought you were trying to be deliberately insulting I would have given you props.  It was pretty funny.  But you seem to not get it at all, which is why I have to stand by calling you a fucking retard.  Saying that you're trying to be nice just cements that fact.

I don't doubt that you have a good heart, but you're a good-hearted retard.

What the fuck's your problem? Where the hell do you get off calling my Dad stupid? Just because he isn't interested in Medieval mythology doesn't mean jack. You act like an okay guy most of the time, but then you pull shit like this and remind people you're the biggest jerk on the whole god damn board.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 10:45:26 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 16, 2009, 10:41:04 PM
Oh watch out Jake, now you'll have Caliga and Grallon on you!
I don't need anyone to protect me from an uppity butter cookie.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: katmai on December 16, 2009, 10:46:19 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 10:45:26 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 16, 2009, 10:41:04 PM
Oh watch out Jake, now you'll have Caliga and Grallon on you!
I don't need anyone to protect me from an uppity butter cookie.

:lol:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 16, 2009, 10:53:34 PM
I've only seen Jake being a dickhead to Timmy.  I can't figure it out.  It's like Timmy is kryptonite.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: DontSayBanana on December 16, 2009, 10:53:41 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 16, 2009, 10:37:09 PM
Not everyone is as stupid as your dad.

If I had for a moment thought you were trying to be deliberately insulting I would have given you props.  It was pretty funny.  But you seem to not get it at all, which is why I have to stand by calling you a fucking retard.  Saying that you're trying to be nice just cements that fact.

I don't doubt that you have a good heart, but you're a good-hearted retard.

Doesn't this post kinda cement your position as a puppy-kicker, then? :unsure:

:P
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Camerus on December 16, 2009, 11:21:26 PM
Thunderdome!   :w00t:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Monoriu on December 16, 2009, 11:42:20 PM
I've met Jake and I can confirm that he is as fluent as any native speaker  :hug:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: katmai on December 16, 2009, 11:48:26 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on December 16, 2009, 11:42:20 PM
I've met Jake and I can confirm that he is as fluent as any native speaker  :hug:

how would a Chinaman know? Hmmm!
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Fireblade on December 16, 2009, 11:57:28 PM
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on December 16, 2009, 11:21:26 PM
Thunderdome!   :w00t:

Seconded!

THUNDERDOME!
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Jacob on December 17, 2009, 12:05:48 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 10:44:19 PMWhat the fuck's your problem? Where the hell do you get off calling my Dad stupid? Just because he isn't interested in Medieval mythology doesn't mean jack.

Okay, I'll make it non-insulting for this one post.  My problem:

You insulted me.  Not only did you insult me, but you did it ignorantly which makes it worse not better.  Assuming that I don't understand the concept in question is patronizing.  Quoting the dictionary at me to be helpful, like you would to your Korean ESL students, is patronizing.  Making a sweeping assumption about my English skills because "he's not a native speaker" compounds the insult.

So I insulted you back.  That's it.

Making assumptions about me based on your dad is not insulting, just entirely besides the point.  As an aside, if you don't want people to insult your dad you shouldn't bring him up as a justification when someone's tearing into you.  I mean, really?

The thing is, I wasn't particularly offended by the substance of the insult.  In fact, as I said, if you'd meant to be a jerk I would've given you props for being clever.  It was kind of funny.  But you blithely missed the whole point which is why I chose the insult I did in return.

Oh and... you're getting some of the details backwards.  You didn't suggest that I didn't understand the "medieval mythology" usage of "grail" so whether your father cares about that subject is irrelevant.

QuoteYou act like an okay guy most of the time, but then you pull shit like this and remind people you're the biggest jerk on the whole god damn board.

Thank you :hug:

Given the number of people on this board who spend all their posting time deliberately competing to be the biggest asshole that's quite a compliment; especially if we consider that they're native speakers and I'm not ;)

It makes me think that I'm doing okay at this whole English thing :bowler:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Syt on December 17, 2009, 12:08:09 AM
Quote from: Caliga on December 16, 2009, 09:53:05 PM
Timmy is a kind hearted young man.  You and Jacob should be ashamed of yourselves.  :mad:

:yes:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Jacob on December 17, 2009, 12:10:57 AM
Quote from: Fireblade on December 16, 2009, 11:57:28 PMSeconded!

THUNDERDOME!

A good idea, however:

1. This is not TBR.  I don't think they do Thunderdomes out here.  Though maybe it would be okay.

2. Timmy in a Thunderdome?  I mean "uppity buttercookie"?  That'd be like sending a cripple to compete in a kick-boxing match.  Even I would feel sorry for him.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Jacob on December 17, 2009, 12:14:58 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 16, 2009, 10:53:34 PM
I've only seen Jake being a dickhead to Timmy.  I can't figure it out.  It's like Timmy is kryptonite.

It's not Timmy specifically, it's blithe idiocy.  The good intentions and puppy dog like eagerness doesn't mitigate, it compounds.  I like Timmy well enough when he doesn't engage in it, but he is the foremost practitioner on languish.  I react fairly strongly to it elsewhere as well, so it's not really personal.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Razgovory on December 17, 2009, 12:19:14 AM
We all have our enemies.  Some more then others.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Fireblade on December 17, 2009, 12:35:57 AM
Quote from: Jacob on December 17, 2009, 12:10:57 AM
Quote from: Fireblade on December 16, 2009, 11:57:28 PMSeconded!

THUNDERDOME!

A good idea, however:

1. This is not TBR.  I don't think they do Thunderdomes out here.  Though maybe it would be okay.

2. Timmy in a Thunderdome?  I mean "uppity buttercookie"?  That'd be like sending a cripple to compete in a kick-boxing match.  Even I would feel sorry for him.

:rolleyes: My money's on Timmy.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Jacob on December 17, 2009, 12:58:02 AM
Quote from: Fireblade on December 17, 2009, 12:35:57 AM:rolleyes: My money's on Timmy.

You have money?  When did that happen?
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Martinus on December 17, 2009, 01:37:05 AM
I'm completely on Jake's side in this. My reaction would have been the same. Kudos for not falling to the carebear mafia's pressure.

As a side note, I just love grallon coming to the defense of Tim on account of possibly getting to fuck him in the end. Though, I guess he needs to hedge his bets - one needs to be a retard to get fucked by grallon.  :cool:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Jaron on December 17, 2009, 01:50:06 AM
Tim is a cripple.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 17, 2009, 01:51:16 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 17, 2009, 01:37:05 AM
I'm completely on Jake's side in this.
Way to kick a man when he's down. :pinch:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Jacob on December 17, 2009, 02:23:06 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 17, 2009, 01:51:16 AMWay to kick a man when he's down. :pinch:

:lol:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Razgovory on December 17, 2009, 02:32:45 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 17, 2009, 01:51:16 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 17, 2009, 01:37:05 AM
I'm completely on Jake's side in this.
Way to kick a man when he's down. :pinch:

Zing.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Martinus on December 17, 2009, 02:35:09 AM
Quote from: Jacob on December 17, 2009, 02:23:06 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 17, 2009, 01:51:16 AMWay to kick a man when he's down. :pinch:

:lol:

I knew my endorsement of your bitchiness will be welcomed. :D
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: garbon on December 17, 2009, 02:37:34 AM
Is butter cookie an insult? I mean I get that it is an undesirable snack...
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Sheilbh on December 17, 2009, 02:47:07 AM
Quote from: Jacob on December 17, 2009, 12:14:58 AM
It's not Timmy specifically, it's blithe idiocy.  The good intentions and puppy dog like eagerness doesn't mitigate, it compounds.  I like Timmy well enough when he doesn't engage in it, but he is the foremost practitioner on languish.  I react fairly strongly to it elsewhere as well, so it's not really personal.
I can see this.  Broadly I'm with Marti and Jake.

Surprised by G's positioning.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: katmai on December 17, 2009, 02:56:09 AM
Quote from: garbon on December 17, 2009, 02:37:34 AM
Is butter cookie an insult? I mean I get that it is an undesirable snack...

I don't think so, hence why I found it funny.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Tamas on December 17, 2009, 02:57:39 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 17, 2009, 01:37:05 AM
My reaction would have been the same.

No shit.
Your reaction was the same when I mentioned on MSN that I couldn't enjoy Dexter because the lead actor kept reminding me of his role in Six Feet Under.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: katmai on December 17, 2009, 02:58:45 AM
Dexter is stupid.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Barrister on December 17, 2009, 03:04:05 AM
Quote from: Jacob on December 17, 2009, 12:05:48 AM
Given the number of people on this board who spend all their posting time deliberately competing to be the biggest asshole that's quite a compliment; especially if we consider that they're native speakers and I'm not ;)

I have never once tried to be the bigger asshole on this board. :mellow:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: katmai on December 17, 2009, 03:05:53 AM
Quote from: Barrister on December 17, 2009, 03:04:05 AM
Quote from: Jacob on December 17, 2009, 12:05:48 AM
Given the number of people on this board who spend all their posting time deliberately competing to be the biggest asshole that's quite a compliment; especially if we consider that they're native speakers and I'm not ;)

I have never once tried to be the bigger asshole on this board. :mellow:

Don't you forget it lips.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 17, 2009, 03:12:27 AM
Quote from: garbon on December 17, 2009, 02:37:34 AM
Is butter cookie an insult? I mean I get that it is an undesirable snack...

Jacob's a Dane isn't he?
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Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Jacob on December 17, 2009, 03:12:49 AM
Quote from: Barrister on December 17, 2009, 03:04:05 AMI have never once tried to be the bigger asshole on this board. :mellow:

And you feel it's necessary to state this because otherwise people might think I meant you?
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Martinus on December 17, 2009, 03:44:58 AM
Quote from: Barrister on December 17, 2009, 03:04:05 AM
Quote from: Jacob on December 17, 2009, 12:05:48 AM
Given the number of people on this board who spend all their posting time deliberately competing to be the biggest asshole that's quite a compliment; especially if we consider that they're native speakers and I'm not ;)

I have never once tried to be the bigger asshole on this board. :mellow:

Too modest. I think your "I will have to report you to the authorities" thread was close. :P
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Martinus on December 17, 2009, 03:46:25 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 17, 2009, 03:12:27 AM
Quote from: garbon on December 17, 2009, 02:37:34 AM
Is butter cookie an insult? I mean I get that it is an undesirable snack...

Jacob's a Dane isn't he?

I don't know what's more sad - when Tim makes a pun and noone finds it funny, or when he then proceeds to explain it and it is still not funny.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: garbon on December 17, 2009, 03:55:31 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 17, 2009, 03:46:25 AM
I don't know what's more sad - when Tim makes a pun and noone finds it funny, or when he then proceeds to explain it and it is still not funny.

Is Jacob : an uppity Lego?  :boff:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Camerus on December 17, 2009, 04:04:49 AM
For Dane-bashing excellence, Ed Anger can show us the way.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Martinus on December 17, 2009, 04:16:24 AM
Isn't Dane-hatred something terrorists do?
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Caliga on December 17, 2009, 06:24:17 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 17, 2009, 01:37:05 AM
As a side note, I just love grallon coming to the defense of Tim on account of possibly getting to fuck him in the end. Though, I guess he needs to hedge his bets - one needs to be a retard to get fucked by grallon.  :cool:
That's why I came to Timmy's defense too.  :cool:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Caliga on December 17, 2009, 06:26:36 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 17, 2009, 03:46:25 AM
I don't know what's more sad - when Tim makes a pun and noone finds it funny, or when he then proceeds to explain it and it is still not funny.
I thought it was clever. -_-  Settle down there, Kielbasa.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Neil on December 17, 2009, 07:03:44 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 17, 2009, 03:44:58 AM
Too modest. I think your "I will have to report you to the authorities" thread was close. :P
And the funny thing is that you started a thread about how anybody who didn't report criminals to the authorities was monster, just this week.  I guess when you thought about it in terms of throwing a faggot off a boat, Beeb was right and you were wrong.

In celebration of your wrongness, you should kill yourself today.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Neil on December 17, 2009, 07:05:20 AM
Quote from: Caliga on December 17, 2009, 06:26:36 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 17, 2009, 03:46:25 AM
I don't know what's more sad - when Tim makes a pun and noone finds it funny, or when he then proceeds to explain it and it is still not funny.
I thought it was clever. -_-  Settle down there, Kielbasa.
I was somewhat amused too.

Still, it's good to see that Jake's as racist as the rest of us.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Grey Fox on December 17, 2009, 07:13:51 AM
This thread is amazing. How a simple pun joke by Jake transformed into this. Languish : amazing.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: katmai on December 17, 2009, 07:23:52 AM
Quote from: Caliga on December 17, 2009, 06:24:17 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 17, 2009, 01:37:05 AM
As a side note, I just love grallon coming to the defense of Tim on account of possibly getting to fuck him in the end. Though, I guess he needs to hedge his bets - one needs to be a retard to get fucked by grallon.  :cool:
That's why I came to Timmy's defense too.  :cool:

You wanna fuck Timmay and yet you claim you aren't gay...
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Caliga on December 17, 2009, 07:42:48 AM
His leg really turns me on.  That, and his Puerto Rican heritage :perv:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: PDH on December 17, 2009, 08:28:43 AM
I'm with Jake. Tim is a retard.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 17, 2009, 08:29:35 AM
Quote from: Caliga on December 17, 2009, 07:42:48 AM
His leg really turns me on.  That, and his Puerto Rican heritage :perv:
Lol, you got visibly queasy when you saw it.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Caliga on December 17, 2009, 08:30:26 AM
Dude, you're gonna shatter everyone's image of me as uber-manly.  :cry:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Neil on December 17, 2009, 09:25:23 AM
Quote from: Caliga on December 17, 2009, 08:30:26 AM
Dude, you're gonna shatter everyone's image of me as uber-manly.  :cry:
Actually, I think of you kind of like a big raccoon in Roman armour.  You march all over the place and bring order to the barbarians so you can eat their garbage.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Ed Anger on December 17, 2009, 09:27:48 AM
Quote from: Neil on December 17, 2009, 09:25:23 AM
Quote from: Caliga on December 17, 2009, 08:30:26 AM
Dude, you're gonna shatter everyone's image of me as uber-manly.  :cry:
Actually, I think of you kind of like a big raccoon in Roman armour.  You march all over the place and bring order to the barbarians so you can eat their garbage.

:XD:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Grallon on December 17, 2009, 09:31:52 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 17, 2009, 01:37:05 AM
Though, I guess he needs to hedge his bets - one needs to be a retard to get fucked by grallon.  :cool:


Oh look, the shrilly soubrette is waving her duster where the wind blows, as usual. :P




G.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Caliga on December 17, 2009, 09:36:19 AM
Quote from: Neil on December 17, 2009, 09:25:23 AM
Actually, I think of you kind of like a big raccoon in Roman armour.  You march all over the place and bring order to the barbarians so you can eat their garbage.
:lmfao:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Valmy on December 17, 2009, 09:49:19 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 09:40:28 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 16, 2009, 08:31:54 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 07:34:12 PM
He's fluent, but he's not a native speaker, he might not know.

:lol:

You're a fucking retard.
:huh: Just trying to be nice.

Seriously?  He said it was in Avalon awaiting King Arthur and your response to that is to then assume he doesn't know what the Holy Grail is?  Does that make any sense?

Logically he would assume you were zinging him back because nobody would assume somebody who just made a joke about something knows nothing about it.  That would be idiotic.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Martinus on December 17, 2009, 09:54:52 AM
What's especially idiotic (in particular considering Tim purports to be a history teacher) is Timmay's apparent assumption that the figurative usage of the "Holy Grail" (as an object of long search) is somehow English-language-specific.

It's not some idiomatic expression that only makes sense in one language, like "red herring" - it's a universal cultural reference which is pretty straightforward (like "Trojan horse" for example).

If a person knows what the Holy Grail is, anyone sane would assume they also know the figurative meaning of the term, even if they can't speak a word in English.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Grallon on December 17, 2009, 09:57:01 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on December 17, 2009, 02:47:07 AM


Surprised by G's positioning.



Mine was a general comment on how Tim is the butt of everyone's jokes here - not on the particulars of this thread.  I don't care one way or another who is smarter, dumber, bigger, wealthier, etc

Although since you require an opinion I could remark that Jake was his arrogant self - but then again he wouldn't be the Jacob we enjoy if he wasn't yes?




G.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 17, 2009, 10:01:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 17, 2009, 09:49:19 AM
Seriously?  He said it was in Avalon awaiting King Arthur and your response to that is to then assume he doesn't know what the Holy Grail is?  Does that make any sense?

I never said he didn't know what the actual grail was. The way he wrote (the emphasis in the first clause) it made it seem like a serious statement, I can't hear his tone of voice.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Valmy on December 17, 2009, 10:21:43 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 17, 2009, 10:01:24 AM
I never said he didn't know what the actual grail was. The way he wrote (the emphasis in the first clause) it made it seem like a serious statement, I can't hear his tone of voice.

You couldn't tell he was being sarcastic?!  Really?  Alright...but if you were trying to zing him back you did a great job.

I just have a hard time believing it since it was such an incredibly well played and insulting jab.  Is Tim some sort of savant of internet flames?  So gifted he does not even have to try?
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Martinus on December 17, 2009, 10:37:04 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 17, 2009, 10:21:43 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 17, 2009, 10:01:24 AM
I never said he didn't know what the actual grail was. The way he wrote (the emphasis in the first clause) it made it seem like a serious statement, I can't hear his tone of voice.

You couldn't tell he was being sarcastic?!  Really?  Alright...but if you were trying to zing him back you did a great job.

I just have a hard time believing it since it was such an incredibly well played and insulting jab.  Is Tim some sort of savant of internet flames?  So gifted he does not even have to try?

Idiot savant, that is. He has an ability to infuriate many people without even trying.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Malthus on December 17, 2009, 10:44:16 AM
Quote from: Neil on December 17, 2009, 09:25:23 AM
Quote from: Caliga on December 17, 2009, 08:30:26 AM
Dude, you're gonna shatter everyone's image of me as uber-manly.  :cry:
Actually, I think of you kind of like a big raccoon in Roman armour.  You march all over the place and bring order to the barbarians so you can eat their garbage.

:lmfao:

You win the thread.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: MadImmortalMan on December 17, 2009, 02:08:33 PM
Awesome thread.  :lol:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Jacob on December 17, 2009, 04:45:37 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 17, 2009, 07:05:20 AMStill, it's good to see that Jake's as racist as the rest of us.

Wait... what?

I mean, maybe I am but what in this thread indicates that?  Did you mean Tim and his buttercookie-bigotry?
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: The Brain on December 17, 2009, 04:50:18 PM
You can't make jokes in writing. Doesn't work that way.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: LaCroix on December 17, 2009, 04:56:33 PM
Quote from: The Brain on December 17, 2009, 04:50:18 PM
You can't make jokes in writing. Doesn't work that way.

so, what they say about you is true? :area52:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: derspiess on December 17, 2009, 05:17:44 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 17, 2009, 09:25:23 AM
Quote from: Caliga on December 17, 2009, 08:30:26 AM
Dude, you're gonna shatter everyone's image of me as uber-manly.  :cry:
Actually, I think of you kind of like a big raccoon in Roman armour.  You march all over the place and bring order to the barbarians so you can eat their garbage.

Neil wins the thread.


edit: Oh, and now that I've gone back & read the rest of the thread, I now know the best way to insult Jake :shifty:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: DontSayBanana on December 17, 2009, 05:26:33 PM
Yeah, seriously... it might be a fight between Jake and Tim, but Neil wins.  Jake's got the vitriol down, but he seriously loses some points for losing it over random shit posted on Languish.  I call that oversensitivity.  Geez, even the Quebecois here don't lose it over stuff like that.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: frunk on December 17, 2009, 05:59:35 PM
I've never noticed Tim to get sarcasm.  To not know that he's sarcasm impaired and to get seriously pissed off at him because of it seems like a gross overreaction.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: grumbler on December 17, 2009, 06:24:28 PM
Quote from: frunk on December 17, 2009, 05:59:35 PM
I've never noticed Tim to get sarcasm.  To not know that he's sarcasm impaired and to get seriously pissed off at him because of it seems like a gross overreaction.
Jake's comment wasn't sarcasm, it was the well-known Languish meme of pretending, as a gag, to interpret something someone says literally.

To not get that isn't as excusable as not getting sarcasm.  Sarcasm can be subtle.  Deliberate literalism is as subtle as a jackhammer.

Having said that, I don't know why Jacob went off like that.  Timmay is like earthquakes and volcanoes and hurricanes.  Getting upset at any of them is a complete waste of time.  I think Tim just caught Jacob at a bad moment, and that Jake will look at this thread in a coupla hours and go "what was I thinking?"
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Neil on December 17, 2009, 06:24:48 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 17, 2009, 04:45:37 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 17, 2009, 07:05:20 AMStill, it's good to see that Jake's as racist as the rest of us.
Wait... what?

I mean, maybe I am but what in this thread indicates that?  Did you mean Tim and his buttercookie-bigotry?
You're picking on a member of a visible minority.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: PDH on December 17, 2009, 06:28:06 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 17, 2009, 06:24:48 PM

You're picking on a member of a visible minority.

Making fun of retards is not bigotry.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Camerus on December 17, 2009, 06:49:47 PM
I just took the Holy Grail of dumps.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Ed Anger on December 17, 2009, 06:57:49 PM
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on December 17, 2009, 06:49:47 PM
I just took the Holy Grail of dumps.

Somebody stole my shtick.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Neil on December 17, 2009, 07:23:25 PM
Quote from: PDH on December 17, 2009, 06:28:06 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 17, 2009, 06:24:48 PM

You're picking on a member of a visible minority.

Making fun of retards is not bigotry.
Jacob wouldn't be making fun of him if he wasn't Mexican.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: PDH on December 17, 2009, 07:37:18 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 17, 2009, 07:23:25 PM

Jacob wouldn't be making fun of him if he wasn't Mexican.

I think Jake is big enough to make fun of any retard, no matter what insignificant ethnicity they are.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Barrister on December 17, 2009, 07:43:55 PM
If it's racist to hate the Danes, well then you can call me a racist.   :cool:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Neil on December 17, 2009, 07:47:09 PM
Quote from: PDH on December 17, 2009, 07:37:18 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 17, 2009, 07:23:25 PM
Jacob wouldn't be making fun of him if he wasn't Mexican.
I think Jake is big enough to make fun of any retard, no matter what insignificant ethnicity they are.
I don't think so.  Tim isn't even the biggest retard in this thread, as Martinus has posted.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Monoriu on December 17, 2009, 08:32:37 PM
I personally think that Jacob has done a favour for Tim.  It is better to learn this lesson on an internet message board than in the real world.  Imagine Tim quoting the dictionary to his boss  :hug:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Jacob on December 17, 2009, 09:09:42 PM
Quote from: derspiess on December 17, 2009, 05:17:44 PMedit: Oh, and now that I've gone back & read the rest of the thread, I now know the best way to insult Jake :shifty:

Have at it :)

It was the "I was trying to be nice" clueless patronizing that triggered it, not the substance of the slight.  I don't think you have it in you to be as clueless as Tim.

Because as I've said, if he'd actually meant to be insulting it would've been clever and thus worthy of respect.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 17, 2009, 09:12:33 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on December 17, 2009, 08:32:37 PM
I personally think that Jacob has done a favour for Tim.  It is better to learn this lesson on an internet message board than in the real world.  Imagine Tim quoting the dictionary to his boss  :hug:
Actually, that's part of my job, teaching my co-teachers better conversational English.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Jacob on December 17, 2009, 09:20:41 PM
Quote from: grumbler on December 17, 2009, 06:24:28 PMHaving said that, I don't know why Jacob went off like that.  Timmay is like earthquakes and volcanoes and hurricanes.  Getting upset at any of them is a complete waste of time.

There was no upset, only entertainment :)

It's probably a similar kind of entertainment to the one you get out of the long arguments and counter-arguments here on Languish.

QuoteI think Tim just caught Jacob at a bad moment, and that Jake will look at this thread in a coupla hours and go "what was I thinking?"

Nah.  I know exactly what I was thinking; to whit: "what a fucking retard."  I believe I said something similar in my first response.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: grumbler on December 17, 2009, 10:07:30 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 17, 2009, 09:20:41 PM
Quote from: grumbler on December 17, 2009, 06:24:28 PMHaving said that, I don't know why Jacob went off like that.  Timmay is like earthquakes and volcanoes and hurricanes.  Getting upset at any of them is a complete waste of time.

There was no upset, only entertainment :) 
Okay.  It was more of a Languish moment than a Jacob moment, then.  I misunderstood.

Kinda funny to look at your title in light of this thread.  :P
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: DontSayBanana on December 18, 2009, 12:03:17 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on December 17, 2009, 08:32:37 PM
I personally think that Jacob has done a favour for Tim.  It is better to learn this lesson on an internet message board than in the real world.  Imagine Tim quoting the dictionary to his boss  :hug:

Outside of Hong Kong, that may not actually get you sent to "The Torcher Chamber" (my former boss is never going to live that one down :P ).  It may get you fired, but not necessarily.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: garbon on December 18, 2009, 12:04:01 AM
I said banana the other day.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: DontSayBanana on December 18, 2009, 12:04:51 AM
Quote from: garbon on December 18, 2009, 12:04:01 AM
I said banana the other day.

Fight the power. :hug:
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: garbon on December 18, 2009, 12:12:42 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on December 18, 2009, 12:04:51 AM
Fight the power. :hug:

Siempre!
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Syt on December 18, 2009, 12:41:43 AM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freegolfinfo.com%2Fforums%2Fupfiles%2F140290%2FA42BDFDDB9064B48929A787A6A4E32B5.jpg&hash=8c150548f7e830f904b48d39d693e8422b06a4ac)
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: Caliga on December 18, 2009, 06:21:43 AM
I had a UPS delivery on Tuesday and the deliveryperson was actually a decent looking MILF.
Title: Re: Ocean planet discovered
Post by: KRonn on December 18, 2009, 08:58:10 AM
Syt, good one!    :D