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Sarah Palin to Resign as Alaska Governor

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Delusional.

Quote from: Valmy on July 03, 2009, 02:48:42 PM
Delusional.

Misogynist.

Breaking News 3:47 PM ET:
Sarah Palin to Resign as Alaska Governor

Quote from: Valmy on July 03, 2009, 02:48:42 PM
Delusional.

:yes:

Saturday Night Live ratings are secure for at least the next three years.

Quote from: Valmy on July 03, 2009, 02:48:42 PM
Delusional.

Indeed.  I agree with her on many things, and yet I would never, ever support her, even if the Republican Party were to nominate her.

Quote from: Neil on July 03, 2009, 02:55:32 PM
Indeed.  I agree with her on many things

You ought to be more careful of what you post on the internet. :P

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 03, 2009, 02:55:15 PM
Saturday Night Live ratings are secure for at least the next three years.

Only so long as they can keep Tina Fey coming back.

Tina Fey is hot.

She is totally worthless. I guess I'm stuck voting democrat. Bleh.

It'd be nice if people spent more than 1 term in a major office before running for president.

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 03, 2009, 02:56:11 PM

Quote from: Neil on July 03, 2009, 02:55:32 PM
Indeed.  I agree with her on many things

You ought to be more careful of what you post on the internet. :P

:lol:

I'm pretty sure my advocacy of the execution of all those who oppose me would be a bit more serious, were my internet life and my public life to intertwine.  Or maybe my elaborate plans to cure homosexuals with genetic treatment and fire.

How the fuck does leaving office early help her Presidential aspirations? Don't run for re-election, sure. But resigning is a pretty clear sign of weakness.

If Palin is the nominee in 2012...well, thank you for 4 more Obama years, GOP.

Quote from: DisturbedPervert on July 03, 2009, 02:58:05 PM
It'd be nice if people spent more than 1 term in a major office before running for president.

But then we would not have had Washington, Lincoln, etc. :(

She won't win the nomination.

Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 03, 2009, 03:03:45 PM
She won't win the nomination.

Great, some other creationist fucknut then. Yay.

Quote from: Sarah PalinI know exactly when to pass the ball so the team can win.

SARAH BARRACUDA! :w00t:

I still like Palin, but WTF?

I can see not running for a second term (although even then that sounds like a good idea to continue to build credibility).  But to simply resign?  Why?

Quote from: Barrister on July 03, 2009, 03:08:05 PM
I still like Palin, but WTF?

I can see not running for a second term (although even then that sounds like a good idea to continue to build credibility).  But to simply resign?  Why?

We know we can effect positive change outside of government.

 :lol:

This woman was about to become Vice President?

This seems bizarre beyond belief :mellow:

I guess in a few days we'll find out why she really resigned.

Quote from: Razgovory on July 03, 2009, 03:15:04 PM
I guess in a few days we'll find out why she really resigned.

She's the real Argentinean. You know how wild all those Republican Governors Association meetings are.

Quote from: Phillip V on July 03, 2009, 03:07:19 PM

Quote from: Sarah PalinI know exactly when to pass the ball so the team can win.

SARAH BARRACUDA! :w00t:

The way for the team to win is for her to sit on the bench.  She's like a fifth safety for Team GOP.  The only way she should be on the field is if someone goes down on special teams.  And even then, she shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the ball.  At best, she's a gunner.  More likely, she's going to get cut, and she'd be lucky to be the waterboy.

Maybe she can be quarterback for one of the smaller parties, like the Libertarians or the Constitution Party.  Insanity is what those guys live for.

It'd be awesome if she did run. Not only will Obama have a stress free campaign for a second term but we'd have a fun time watching it.

She sounded really nervous when she was speaking.  There's something up here.

Quote from: Barrister on July 03, 2009, 03:08:05 PM
I still like Palin, but WTF?

I can see not running for a second term (although even then that sounds like a good idea to continue to build credibility).  But to simply resign?  Why?

Maybe she's not actually planning on running for anything.  She's gotten an incredible amount of vitriol thrown at her, maybe it's getting too much.

Your underestimation will be your doom.

Quote from: DisturbedPervert on July 03, 2009, 03:22:11 PM

Quote from: Barrister on July 03, 2009, 03:08:05 PM
I still like Palin, but WTF?

I can see not running for a second term (although even then that sounds like a good idea to continue to build credibility).  But to simply resign?  Why?

Maybe she's not actually planning on running for anything.  She's gotten an incredible amount of vitriol thrown at her, maybe it's getting too much.

I wonder if that might be it.  Just doesn't have the nerve.

Quote from: Phillip V on July 03, 2009, 03:23:01 PM
Your underestimation will be your doom.

Palin-Cheney 2012: the Empire Strikes Back.

Quote from: DisturbedPervert on July 03, 2009, 03:22:11 PM

Quote from: Barrister on July 03, 2009, 03:08:05 PM
I still like Palin, but WTF?

I can see not running for a second term (although even then that sounds like a good idea to continue to build credibility).  But to simply resign?  Why?

Maybe she's not actually planning on running for anything.  She's gotten an incredible amount of vitriol thrown at her, maybe it's getting too much.

It's always possible.  But in that case I'd love to see her give a big F U to the news media for the way she (and more importantly her family) has been treated.

Good for her.

Quote from: FunkMonk on July 03, 2009, 03:26:51 PM
Good for her.

And good for Alaska.  Everyone can rest a little easier now that Peggy Hill no longer has any political office.

Quote from: Barrister on July 03, 2009, 03:24:32 PM

Quote from: DisturbedPervert on July 03, 2009, 03:22:11 PM

Quote from: Barrister on July 03, 2009, 03:08:05 PM
I still like Palin, but WTF?

I can see not running for a second term (although even then that sounds like a good idea to continue to build credibility).  But to simply resign?  Why?

Maybe she's not actually planning on running for anything.  She's gotten an incredible amount of vitriol thrown at her, maybe it's getting too much.

It's always possible.  But in that case I'd love to see her give a big F U to the news media for the way she (and more importantly her family) has been treated.

Palin's the one who put the her family in the national spotlight. She brought us such national gems as: OMG I HAS A RETURD BABI and LOL ABSTINENCE WORKS. Then there's the whole secessionist husband aspect. Can it really get any better?

Pawlenty 2012!

Quote from: Neil on July 03, 2009, 02:59:13 PM

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 03, 2009, 02:56:11 PM

Quote from: Neil on July 03, 2009, 02:55:32 PM
Indeed.  I agree with her on many things

You ought to be more careful of what you post on the internet. :P

:lol:

I'm pretty sure my advocacy of the execution of all those who oppose me would be a bit more serious, were my internet life and my public life to intertwine.  Or maybe my elaborate plans to cure homosexuals with genetic treatment and fire.

Nope, I have never warned you about those excesses.  Your recent statement is beyond the pale.

Quote from: Razgovory on July 03, 2009, 03:28:06 PM

Quote from: FunkMonk on July 03, 2009, 03:26:51 PM
Good for her.

And good for Alaska.  Everyone can rest a little easier now that Peggy Hill no longer has any political office.

Peggy Hill was hot.

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 03, 2009, 03:30:23 PM

Quote from: Neil on July 03, 2009, 02:59:13 PM

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 03, 2009, 02:56:11 PM

Quote from: Neil on July 03, 2009, 02:55:32 PM
Indeed.  I agree with her on many things

You ought to be more careful of what you post on the internet. :P

:lol:

I'm pretty sure my advocacy of the execution of all those who oppose me would be a bit more serious, were my internet life and my public life to intertwine.  Or maybe my elaborate plans to cure homosexuals with genetic treatment and fire.

Nope, I have never warned you about those excesses.  Your recent statement is beyond the pale.

Really?  I don't think it's that bad.  I mean, I could agree with her on her slaughtering-gays platform, but not her breeding her daughter with hillbilly meth-addicts policy.

Quote from: Neil on July 03, 2009, 03:45:25 PM
Really?  I don't think it's that bad.  I mean, I could agree with her on her slaughtering-gays platform, but not her breeding her daughter with hillbilly meth-addicts policy.

I'm just trying to give you a some friendly advice.  If you dont see the downside to making those kinds of admissions then there is not much more I can do.

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 03, 2009, 03:49:27 PM

Quote from: Neil on July 03, 2009, 03:45:25 PM
Really?  I don't think it's that bad.  I mean, I could agree with her on her slaughtering-gays platform, but not her breeding her daughter with hillbilly meth-addicts policy.

I'm just trying to give you a some friendly advice.  If you dont see the downside to making those kinds of admissions then there is not much more I can do.

I'm safe to say those sorts of things.  Remember, I don't live in the People's Republic.

Does she have an Argentinian mistress as well?

From her speech, it doesn't really sound like she's "gearing up" for anything except hanging out with her family and such.

Edit:  She inhales very loudly.  "blahblahblah" *HUGE BREATH* "blahblahblah" *HUGE BREATH*

I hope she's not terminally ill, because that would make us all feel like crap.

Listening to her speech she doesn't make a lot of sense.

Quote from: DGuller on July 03, 2009, 04:23:39 PM
I hope she's not terminally ill, because that would make us all feel like crap.

God willed it.

Quote from: DGuller on July 03, 2009, 04:23:39 PM
I hope she's not terminally ill, because that would make us all feel like crap.

You hope she isnt terminally ill so that 2012 will be another cake walk for the Dems. :P

Quote from: DGuller on July 03, 2009, 04:23:39 PM
I hope she's not terminally ill, because that would make us all feel like crap.

You and Keith Olbermann will be sharing a bunk in hell.

Quote from: DGuller on July 03, 2009, 04:23:39 PM
I hope she's not terminally ill, because that would make us all feel like crap.

People must be torn up about losing their favorite punching bag.

Quote from: Razgovory on July 03, 2009, 04:23:54 PM
Listening to her speech she doesn't make a lot of sense.

Ok, so it's really Palin speaking.

The Palin Song (with apologies to Warren Zevon's "Hit Somebody!")

She was born in Big Beaver by the borderline
She started playing hockey by the time she was nine
Her dad took the hose and froze the back yard
And Little Sarah dreamed she was Rocket Richard
She grew up big and she grew up tough
She saw herself scoring for the Wings or Canucks
But she wasn't that good with a puck

Sarah's real talent was beating people up
Her heart wasn't in it but the crowd ate it up
Through city council runs, and the PTA
She must have racked up more than six KIA
A scout from McCain came down pretty soon
Said, "There's always room on our team for a goon
Gal, we've always got room for a goon"

There were Pawlenties to the left of her
Hucks to the right
A Romney at the blue line looking for a fight
Brains over brawn--that might work for you
But what's an Alaska farm gal to do?
What else can a farm gal from Alaska do?

"Hit somebody!" was what the crowd roared
When Sarah the goon came over the boards
"John," she'd say, "I wanna score debates"
The big guy said "Sarah, remember how you rate
The smart guys get paid, I shoot andI score
Protect me, Sarah, that's what you're here for"

Protection is what you're here for
Protection--it's the stars that score
Protection--kick somebody's ass
Protection--don't give us any sass.
"Hit someone, Sarah!" it rang in her ears
Blood on the trail ran down through the years
The queen of the goons with head fulla turds
A thousand speeches and broken words
She never lost a fight in her icy legislates
But deep inside, Sarah only dreamed of debates
She just wanted one debate.

There was Huckster at the the blue line
Pawlenty at the red
Obama with a stick heading straight for her head
Brains over brawn--that might work for you
But what's an Alaska farm gal to do?
What else can a farm gal from Alaska do?

In her final election, on her final night
Sarah and a Huck goon were pegged for a fight
Thirty seconds left, the poll took a skate
And suddenly Sarah had a shot at a debate

The Dems all committed, Sarah picked her spot
Twenty years of waiting went into that shot
The fans jumped up, the Huck jumped too
And cold-cocked Sarah on his follow through.

The big gal crumbled but she felt all right
'Cause the last thing she saw
was the returns from the polls that night
She saw that heavenly sight

There were Blue Dogs to the left of her
Nazis to the right
A Centrist at the blue line looking for a fight
Take care of your teeth--that might work for you
But what's an Alaska farm gal to do?
What else can a farm gal from Alaska do?

At any rate, this is the end of her, in terms of a run for President.  She'll never be able to move past the fact that she deserted her post as soon as the going got tough.

I really do find her incredibly difficult to follow.  Especially in this speech which seems to be without notes.  Lord.

My guess: it's either the retard baby or oil money.

Quote from: DisturbedPervert on July 03, 2009, 04:37:46 PM

Quote from: DGuller on July 03, 2009, 04:23:39 PM
I hope she's not terminally ill, because that would make us all feel like crap.

People must be torn up about losing their favorite punching bag.

Few deserved it more.  "I'm not retreating from politics, I'm moving forward in a different direction!" 

Quote from: Martinus on July 03, 2009, 04:52:27 PM
My guess: it's either the retard baby or oil money.

Am I the only one who cringes when hearing something like "retard baby"?

Quote from: DGuller on July 03, 2009, 05:04:19 PM

Quote from: Martinus on July 03, 2009, 04:52:27 PM
My guess: it's either the retard baby or oil money.

Am I the only one who cringes when hearing something like "retard baby"?

It's Martinus.  It's like when a black person calls someone 'nigger'.

This is great news!! For Alaska and Barack Obama!

Quote from: DGuller on July 03, 2009, 05:04:19 PM

Quote from: Martinus on July 03, 2009, 04:52:27 PM
My guess: it's either the retard baby or oil money.

Am I the only one who cringes when hearing something like "retard baby"?

No. I cringe when hearing retard babies. But then again I cringe whenever I hear any babies. They should be neither seen, heard nor smelled.

Quote from: Martinus on July 03, 2009, 05:08:45 PM

Quote from: DGuller on July 03, 2009, 05:04:19 PM

Quote from: Martinus on July 03, 2009, 04:52:27 PM
My guess: it's either the retard baby or oil money.

Am I the only one who cringes when hearing something like "retard baby"?

No. I cringe when hearing retard babies. But then again I cringe whenever I hear any babies. They should be neither seen, heard nor smelled.

You cringe with the difficulty of restraining your sexual desire for pre-sexual humans.  You sick pervert.

Quote from: Martinus on July 03, 2009, 05:08:45 PM
No. I cringe when hearing retard babies. But then again I cringe whenever I hear any babies. They should be neither seen, heard nor smelled.

Learn English, k? Thx.

Quote from: Viking on July 03, 2009, 05:08:26 PM
This is great news!! For Alaska and Barack Obama!

I know the oil companies will be pleased. She was a royal pain in the ass for Exxon.

I bet Palin will finish her book soon and travel the country. Wait till you see the crowds that come to see her.

Quote from: Phillip V on July 03, 2009, 08:39:30 PM
I bet Palin will finish her book soon and travel the country. Wait till you see the crowds that come to see her.

Like a freak show.

Quote from: Phillip V on July 03, 2009, 08:39:30 PM
I bet Palin will finish her book soon and travel the country. Wait till you see the crowds that come to see her.

her audience doesn't read books.

Quote from: saskganesh on July 03, 2009, 08:44:17 PMher audience doesn't read books.

Sure they do:

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OK. is her book a sequel?

Get on the Palin bandwagon, or you will be left behind.

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Why does Sarah rock for producing a defective egg and bringing a defective embryo to term?

general consensus of the people i know and folks i heard today when they heard that she was resigning: good,
the general sentiment is she hasn't had her head in state affairs since she got back from the unsucessful Veep run.

HOT!

Quote from: katmai on July 04, 2009, 03:49:58 AM
general consensus of the people i know and folks i heard today when they heard that she was resigning: good,
the general sentiment is she hasn't had her head in state affairs since she got back from the unsucessful Veep run.

That's not very surprising, given how the people around her have been filling her head with presidential dreams.

Quote from: Neil on July 04, 2009, 08:34:50 AM

Quote from: katmai on July 04, 2009, 03:49:58 AM
general consensus of the people i know and folks i heard today when they heard that she was resigning: good,
the general sentiment is she hasn't had her head in state affairs since she got back from the unsucessful Veep run.

That's not very surprising, given how the people around her have been filling her head with presidential dreams.

They were trying to push out the rocks.

:bleeding:

Gov. Sarah Palin goes crazy, disappears

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0709/The_lady_vanishes.html

Quote from: katmai on July 04, 2009, 03:49:58 AM
general consensus of the people i know and folks i heard today when they heard that she was resigning: good,
the general sentiment is she hasn't had her head in state affairs since she got back from the unsucessful Veep run.

It did wonders for John Edwards career after he didn't bother running for Senate re-election in NC because he spent so much time trying to run for VP. Perhaps this will help Palin as well er minus the having a little something on the side like John.

I didn't read all of this yet. But Palin wasn't going anywhere as a Pres candidate. Not even as VP. She had been so vilified, was so polarizing that she had a long way to go to gain enough gravitas to be taken seriously by enough people. I like her ok but I just feel she was damaged goods; did too much damage to herself, plus I feel the media frenzy was pretty heavy handed.
She was like Hillary Clinton but Hillary gained respect and some gravitas, though very polarizing, or formerly was.

I do think Palin might get into being a voice for Repubs or for Conservative ideas, something like that. Out of the limelight of governorship, i fthat would work out. It's been also said that she racked up a lot of costs in all the (failed) ethics investigations, so the talk circuit might be good way fo rher to make money.

I dunno what this means, but I'm starting to see a lot of bumper stickers and ball caps with the McCain/Palin logo from the campaign on them, only McCain's name is gone. It's just "Palin" with the little star symbol over it.

I just do not get the right wing love affair with Palin.  Surely the election showed how ineffectual she was.

Do they WANT to lose the next election?  Or will alot of them just take a religious loony, any religious loony to rally behind?

I don't know if it's possible for her to gain gravitas.  Bush II didn't have any until he got elected, running primarily on folksy charm.  Palin doesn't even have folksy charm.

Quote from: Valmy on July 06, 2009, 12:36:38 PM
I just do not get the right wing love affair with Palin.  Surely the election showed how ineffectual she was.

Do they WANT to lose the next election?  Or will alot of them just take a religious loony, any religious loony to rally behind?

Huckabee at least had a personality.  Palin is just a jumped-up PTA mom.

Quote from: Neil on July 06, 2009, 12:37:58 PM
Huckabee at least had a personality.  Palin is just a jumped-up PTA mom.

Huck at least won a few Primaries.

Quote from: Valmy on July 06, 2009, 12:38:50 PM

Quote from: Neil on July 06, 2009, 12:37:58 PM
Huckabee at least had a personality.  Palin is just a jumped-up PTA mom.

Huck at least won a few Primaries.

Well, he was the Christian candidate.  Maybe that's what Palin is aiming to be.

Of course, the Christian candidate is usually the one person you wouldn't want to win the election.  Unless Kucinich is running.

Quote from: Neil on July 06, 2009, 12:37:03 PM
I don't know if it's possible for her to gain gravitas.  Bush II didn't have any until he got elected, running primarily on folksy charm.  Palin doesn't even have folksy charm.

That's all Palin has going for her - folksy charm.

Quote from: Barrister on July 06, 2009, 12:54:19 PM
That's all Palin has going for her - folksy charm.

When I think of Folksy Charm I think the archetype protrayed in Mr. Smith Goes To Washington.  Somebody who can charm people because they have a kind of basic wisdom about them.

She lacks that completely.  She is a religious populist which is something different.

Just in case there was one rational person left in the US who thought she was fit for an office higher than Matanuska-Susitna Aerial Wolf Gunner, she apparently authorized her attorney to issue a press-release (!) threatening to bring defamation lawsuits against her detractors.

I encourage all to read:   http://www.politico.com/static/PPM124_release_for_7-4-09-1.html.   It is a leading candidate for best unintentional comedy writing for 2009.

Quote from: Valmy on July 06, 2009, 12:36:38 PM
I just do not get the right wing love affair with Palin.  Surely the election showed how ineffectual she was.

Do they WANT to lose the next election?  Or will alot of them just take a religious loony, any religious loony to rally behind?

What would an "effectual" VP candidate been?

Never in the history of politics has a politician done so little in such a short period of time to earn so much deranged hatred from the MSM and the Democrats (but I repeat myself) as Sarah Palin has.

Not surprising that she would withdraw from politics rather than have herself and her family subjected to any more of the skurrilous conspiracy theories and character assassinations.

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 01:01:35 PM
What would an "effectual" VP candidate been?

I think he was referring to the fact that everyone on the planet was terrified at the prospect  that if McCain was elected she might become President if he died.

Well everyone except the religious fundamentalists that she appeals to for her support.

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 06, 2009, 01:05:13 PM

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 01:01:35 PM
What would an "effectual" VP candidate been?

I think he was referring to the fact that everyone on the planet was terrified at the prospect  that if McCain was elected she might become President if he died.

Well everyone except the religious fundamentalists that she appeals to for her support.

I never knew that I was a religious fundamentalist. :o

Quote from: Hansmeister on July 06, 2009, 01:03:58 PM
Never in the history of politics has a politician done so little in such a short period of time and still have some prospect of becoming President of the United States.

Fixed that for you.

Quote from: Hansmeister on July 06, 2009, 01:03:58 PM
Never in the history of politics has a politician done so little in such a short period of time to earn so much deranged hatred from the MSM and the Democrats (but I repeat myself) as Sarah Palin has.

She acted like a self-righteous idiot. She deserves condemnation.

Quote from: garbon on July 06, 2009, 01:06:36 PM
I never knew that I was a religious fundamentalist. :o

I didnt include the categorie of political idiot.

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 06, 2009, 01:07:52 PM
I didnt include the categorie of political idiot.

:yawn:

Actually I just realized that my family must be chock full of idiots or religious fundamentalists. :o

Quote from: Hansmeister on July 06, 2009, 01:03:58 PM
Never in the history of politics has a politician done so little in such a short period of time to earn so much deranged hatred from the MSM and the Democrats (but I repeat myself) as Sarah Palin has.

Not surprising that she would withdraw from politics rather than have herself and her family subjected to any more of the skurrilous conspiracy theories and character assassinations.

Says the dude who calls every single Democratic figure of any prominence dangerously idiotic or treasonous or both or worse.

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 01:01:35 PM
What would an "effectual" VP candidate been?

Be a positive influence on the campaign?  Neither Biden nor Palin were very effective but at least Biden did no harm.

The difference being nobody consider Biden a future presidential candidate.

Quote from: garbon on July 06, 2009, 01:08:38 PM
Actually I just realized that my family must be chock full of idiots or religious fundamentalists. :o

They say that genetics does play an important role in intelligence.

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 06, 2009, 01:13:41 PM
They say that genetics does play an important role in intelligence.

How sad.  Although, not surprising that you'd leap to idea that people must be delusional and/or crazy not to agree with your views.

I am starting to wonder if it is the left that keeps going on about Palin, and keeping her name as this faux candidate alive.

Quote from: Hansmeister on July 06, 2009, 01:03:58 PM
Never in the history of politics has a politician done so little in such a short period of time to earn so much deranged hatred from the MSM and the Democrats (but I repeat myself) as Sarah Palin has.

I think there's something to that. Certainly, I think she threatened some deeply ingrained stereotypes of Republicans (ie old, white, male) and drew some flak for that.

She was also, however, entirely unfit for public offices; something she proved everything she opened her mouth. Her campaign quickly descended into farce, even without Tina Fey's help.

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on July 06, 2009, 01:00:15 PM
Just in case there was one rational person left in the US who thought she was fit for an office higher than Matanuska-Susitna Aerial Wolf Gunner, she apparently authorized her attorney to issue a press-release (!) threatening to bring defamation lawsuits against her detractors.

I encourage all to read:   http://www.politico.com/static/PPM124_release_for_7-4-09-1.html.   It is a leading candidate for best unintentional comedy writing for 2009.

All gone.

Quote from: Berkut on July 06, 2009, 01:15:43 PM
I am starting to wonder if it is the left that keeps going on about Palin, and keeping her name as this faux candidate alive.

That would be smart of them.

Therefore I doubt it.

Quote from: Berkut on July 06, 2009, 01:15:43 PM
I am starting to wonder if it is the left that keeps going on about Palin, and keeping her name as this faux candidate alive.

Valmy beat me to it.  The problem with consipiracy theories is that they usually give way to much credit to the intelligence of those accused of the conspiracy.

Quote from: Valmy on July 06, 2009, 12:36:38 PM
I just do not get the right wing love affair with Palin.  Surely the election showed how ineffectual she was.

Do they WANT to lose the next election?  Or will alot of them just take a religious loony, any religious loony to rally behind?

Well from what I've read she's popular in the south she'll be wanted to speak at rallies for GOP candidates over the next few years. 

So she'll essentially be a glorified cheerleader.  That probably suits her.

Quote from: Hansmeister on July 06, 2009, 01:03:58 PM
Never in the history of politics has a politician done so little in such a short period of time to earn so much deranged hatred from the MSM and the Democrats (but I repeat myself) as Sarah Palin has.

Not surprising that she would withdraw from politics rather than have herself and her family subjected to any more of the skurrilous conspiracy theories and character assassinations.

I'm suprised you'd even stick up for her.  She didn't even go Bush in 2000.

Try http://www.politico.com/pdf/PPM124_release_for_7-4-09-1.pdf

Quote from: Vince on July 06, 2009, 01:20:38 PM

Quote from: Valmy on July 06, 2009, 12:36:38 PM
I just do not get the right wing love affair with Palin.  Surely the election showed how ineffectual she was.

Do they WANT to lose the next election?  Or will alot of them just take a religious loony, any religious loony to rally behind?

Well from what I've read she's popular in the south she'll be wanted to speak at rallies for GOP candidates over the next few years. 

So she'll be a glorified cheerleader.  That probably suits her.

This is probably right. None of the polls show her as anything more than a middle of the pack candidate in GOP primaries atm. I don't think the GOP wants her as much as some people make it seem.

Quote from: frunk on July 06, 2009, 01:22:36 PM
Try http://www.politico.com/pdf/PPM124_release_for_7-4-09-1.pdf

I hope to God for her sake she's not resigning because of a blogger.

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on July 06, 2009, 01:22:47 PM
This is probably right. None of the polls show her as anything more than a middle of the pack candidate in GOP primaries atm. I don't think the GOP wants her as much as some people make it seem.

I don't think the public hates her as much as some people make it seem.

McCain won the polls in September after he selected Palin and electrified the country. Then, the stockmarket crashed by the end of the month, and he lost. I refuse to believe Obama's election was as easy many would have you believe. He was damn lucky.

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on July 06, 2009, 01:22:47 PMThis is probably right. None of the polls show her as anything more than a middle of the pack candidate in GOP primaries atm. I don't think the GOP wants her as much as some people make it seem.

I don't think the GOP wants anyone at the minute.  Understandably given that the next Presidential election isn't for another 3 years.  My impression, though, is that her support in the GOP is a bit like her nationwide appeal.  I think she's got incredibly passionate supporters, but not across a broad base.

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 02:21:59 PM
McCain won the polls in September after he selected Palin and electrified the country.

Um...that was when she was an unknown and had not opened her mouth yet.

Electrified?  More like horrified.  McCain the mighty maverick chose a wretched creature of the Christian right as his running mate.  Just dreadful.

Quote from: garbon on July 06, 2009, 01:07:30 PM

Quote from: Hansmeister on July 06, 2009, 01:03:58 PM
Never in the history of politics has a politician done so little in such a short period of time to earn so much deranged hatred from the MSM and the Democrats (but I repeat myself) as Sarah Palin has.

She acted like a self-righteous idiot. She deserves condemnation.

Oh, she acted like Obama, or virtually every other politician who has ever run for office.

Quote from: Valmy on July 06, 2009, 02:41:34 PM

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 02:21:59 PM
McCain won the polls in September after he selected Palin and electrified the country.

Um...that was when she was an unknown and the MSM hadn't gone into overdrive creating a fake image of her to smear her with.

Fixed that for ye.  McCain of course made matters worse by first locking her away and letting the msm spin define the narrative, and then throwing her to the wolves by setting her up for interviews with the same hostile MSM that had originally defamed her.  Gross incompetence on the McCain campaign.

The GOP rallied around her for three reasons: First, she is HOTT.  Second, she has been a reform republican quite outside the mold of the inside-the-beltway establishment GOP.  And most importantly, she was hated by all the right people.  It is that last factor that has been her greatest benefit to date.

Quote from: Hansmeister on July 06, 2009, 03:34:24 PM

Quote from: garbon on July 06, 2009, 01:07:30 PM

Quote from: Hansmeister on July 06, 2009, 01:03:58 PM
Never in the history of politics has a politician done so little in such a short period of time to earn so much deranged hatred from the MSM and the Democrats (but I repeat myself) as Sarah Palin has.

She acted like a self-righteous idiot. She deserves condemnation.

Oh, she acted like Obama, or virtually every other politician who has ever run for office.

Obama deserves condemnation.  Virtually every other politician who has ever run for office deserves condemnation.

Nixon was better than any of them.

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 02:21:59 PM
I refuse to believe Obama's election was as easy many would have you believe. He was damn lucky.

no. he worked very damn hard and had a better campaign.

Quote from: Hansmeister on July 06, 2009, 03:34:24 PM
Oh, she acted like Obama, or virtually every other politician who has ever run for office.

No.  Palin acted like a complete idiot.  Nobody comes close.  Well maybe Mr. Potatoe.

Has news leaked that the youngest is now knocked up or something? Seems lieka  weird move by Palin.

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 06, 2009, 03:49:35 PM

Quote from: Hansmeister on July 06, 2009, 03:34:24 PM
Oh, she acted like Obama, or virtually every other politician who has ever run for office.

No.  Palin acted like a complete idiot.  Nobody comes close.  Well maybe Mr. Potatoe.

Please, nobody in all of the nation acts dumber than Joe Biden.

Quote from: Hansmeister on July 06, 2009, 03:40:23 PM

Quote from: Valmy on July 06, 2009, 02:41:34 PM

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 02:21:59 PM
McCain won the polls in September after he selected Palin and electrified the country.

Um...that was when she was an unknown and the MSM hadn't gone into overdrive creating a fake image of her to smear her with.

Fixed that for ye.  McCain of course made matters worse by first locking her away and letting the msm spin define the narrative, and then throwing her to the wolves by setting her up for interviews with the same hostile MSM that had originally defamed her.  Gross incompetence on the McCain campaign.

The GOP rallied around her for three reasons: First, she is HOTT.  Second, she has been a reform republican quite outside the mold of the inside-the-beltway establishment GOP.  And most importantly, she was hated by all the right people.  It is that last factor that has been her greatest benefit to date.

Even you don't believe that.  Getting asked "what kind of magaizines do you read" is hardly a tough question.

Quote from: Hansmeister on July 06, 2009, 03:51:53 PM

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 06, 2009, 03:49:35 PM

Quote from: Hansmeister on July 06, 2009, 03:34:24 PM
Oh, she acted like Obama, or virtually every other politician who has ever run for office.

No.  Palin acted like a complete idiot.  Nobody comes close.  Well maybe Mr. Potatoe.

Please, nobody in all of the nation acts dumber than Joe Biden.

Perhaps, but there are plenty of people who are dumber then Joe Biden.  Palin just happens to be one of them.

Quote from: Razgovory on July 06, 2009, 03:52:09 PM

Even you don't believe that.  Getting asked "what kind of magaizines do you read" is hardly a tough question.

Apparently it can be.

And the "MSM" sure didn't make her look like an ignorant dumbass during the VP debate. She did that all by herself.

Quote from: Razgovory on July 06, 2009, 03:52:09 PM
Even you don't believe that.  Getting asked "what kind of magaizines do you read" is hardly a tough question.

Just like you tell everybody about Languish when asked about internet usage.

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 03:55:40 PM

Quote from: Razgovory on July 06, 2009, 03:52:09 PM
Even you don't believe that.  Getting asked "what kind of magaizines do you read" is hardly a tough question.

Just like you tell everybody about Languish when asked about internet usage.

I don't go anywhere so nobody asks me questions.  But if someone were to ask what I look at on the internet I doubt I give cliche's about freedom of expression and then say "all of it" or "any of it".

Quote from: saskganesh on July 06, 2009, 03:40:45 PM

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 02:21:59 PM
I refuse to believe Obama's election was as easy many would have you believe. He was damn lucky.

no. he worked very damn hard and had a better campaign.

An old gaffe-prone candidate with 10 houses and abandoned his first wife, unpopular incumbent GOP, disastrous wars, scandals, Hurricane Katrina, etc., and Obama with pools of money and staff could not finally establish a clear lead in the polls until the economy crashed in October? Meh.

Quote from: Razgovory on July 06, 2009, 03:52:09 PM

Quote from: Hansmeister on July 06, 2009, 03:40:23 PM

Quote from: Valmy on July 06, 2009, 02:41:34 PM

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 02:21:59 PM
McCain won the polls in September after he selected Palin and electrified the country.

Um...that was when she was an unknown and the MSM hadn't gone into overdrive creating a fake image of her to smear her with.

Fixed that for ye.  McCain of course made matters worse by first locking her away and letting the msm spin define the narrative, and then throwing her to the wolves by setting her up for interviews with the same hostile MSM that had originally defamed her.  Gross incompetence on the McCain campaign.

The GOP rallied around her for three reasons: First, she is HOTT.  Second, she has been a reform republican quite outside the mold of the inside-the-beltway establishment GOP.  And most importantly, she was hated by all the right people.  It is that last factor that has been her greatest benefit to date.

Even you don't believe that.  Getting asked "what kind of magaizines do you read" is hardly a tough question.

It's a clear example of classism in the MSM. Not everyone a generation away from poor white trash has the ability to read magazines.

Quote from: Razgovory on July 06, 2009, 03:59:59 PM

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 03:55:40 PM

Quote from: Razgovory on July 06, 2009, 03:52:09 PM
Even you don't believe that.  Getting asked "what kind of magaizines do you read" is hardly a tough question.

Just like you tell everybody about Languish when asked about internet usage.

I don't go anywhere so nobody asks me questions.  But if someone were to ask what I look at on the internet I doubt I give cliche's about freedom of expression and then say "all of it" or "any of it".

Thanks for explaining how you would not answer your own hypothetical question.

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 04:00:39 PM

Quote from: saskganesh on July 06, 2009, 03:40:45 PM

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 02:21:59 PM
I refuse to believe Obama's election was as easy many would have you believe. He was damn lucky.

no. he worked very damn hard and had a better campaign.

An old gaffe-prone candidate with 10 houses and abandoned his first wife, unpopular incumbent GOP, disastrous wars, scandals, Hurricane Katrina, etc., and Obama with pools of money and staff could not finally establish a clear lead in the polls until the economy crashed in October? Meh.

The wife thing is stepping into Fireblade territory. Not even the moral majority gave a rat's ass. The amount of scandals going on was nothing special and effected both parties. Iraq was going relatively well for the entire pre-election period.

Let's not forget Obama's connections to the Wright/Ayers/Farrakhan tripartite of evil, his mooslimb middle name, "bitter", "cling to guns and religion", etc...

Answering a question of tastes in literature, musics, movies, etc. is no simple task. Judgments of identity are quickly gleaned from such answers.

For example, when courting a female, it is much easier to establish a connection if you share the same interests and can later take her to a concert or movie.
Blacks determine if I am black enough for them if they notice I listen to hip hop. Whereas old white folk fear me if they catch me playing that shit.
Meanwhile, hicks warm up to me, and we sing along to country music. I am no longer a "threatening minority" to them.

Do you remember in school the nerds who walk around with their big books/novels in between classes trying to look pretentious or perhaps oblivious?

Thus, it is no simple matter when someone asks you about books, music, or what you watch. They will categorize you, and Palin obviously was not coached in how to respond to such "simple" questions.

Quote
For example, when courting a female, it is much easier to establish a connection if you share the same interests and can later take her to a concert or movie.

You can't even smile at one.

It seems the resignation of Palin has sent conservatards off the deep end:
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Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 04:00:39 PM

Quote from: saskganesh on July 06, 2009, 03:40:45 PM

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 02:21:59 PM
I refuse to believe Obama's election was as easy many would have you believe. He was damn lucky.

no. he worked very damn hard and had a better campaign.

An old gaffe-prone candidate with 10 houses and abandoned his first wife, unpopular incumbent GOP, disastrous wars, scandals, Hurricane Katrina, etc., and Obama with pools of money and staff could not finally establish a clear lead in the polls until the economy crashed in October? Meh.

His own advisors thought the race was over in September.  McCain got a bump from the convention but they all knew it wasn't going to last.  McCain struggled the whole time due to lack of coherent strategy.  When he was stupified by the economic crash it only sealed the deal.

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 04:13:27 PM
Answering a question of tastes in literature, musics, movies, etc. is no simple task. Judgments of identity are quickly gleaned from such answers.

For example, when courting a female, it is much easier to establish a connection if you share the same interests and can later take her to a concert or movie.
Blacks determine if I am black enough for them if they notice I listen to hip hop. Whereas old white folk fear me if they catch me playing that shit.
Meanwhile, hicks warm up to me, and we sing along to country music. I am no longer a "threatening minority" to them.

Do you remember in school the nerds who walk around with their big books/novels in between classes trying to look pretentious or perhaps oblivious?

Thus, it is no simple matter when someone asks you about books, music, or what you watch. They will categorize you, and Palin obviously was not coached in how to respond to such "simple" questions.

I thought we have already established that you are mentally challenged, though. You are that Korean soldier person, right? I don't have good memory for newbish nicknames.

Quote from: Razgovory on July 06, 2009, 05:11:58 PM
His own advisors thought the race was over in September.  McCain got a bump from the convention but they all knew it wasn't going to last.  McCain struggled the whole time due to lack of coherent strategy.  When he was stupified by the economic crash it only sealed the deal.

Which continues my point: if the GOP nominee and situation sucked so bad, why did Obama not win in a landslide?

Quote from: Martinus on July 06, 2009, 05:19:51 PM
I thought we have already established that you are mentally challenged, though. You are that Korean soldier person, right? I don't have good memory for newbish nicknames.

I've been on Languish longer than you've been gay.

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 05:20:30 PM

Quote from: Razgovory on July 06, 2009, 05:11:58 PM
His own advisors thought the race was over in September.  McCain got a bump from the convention but they all knew it wasn't going to last.  McCain struggled the whole time due to lack of coherent strategy.  When he was stupified by the economic crash it only sealed the deal.

Which continues my point: if the GOP nominee and situation sucked so bad, why did Obama not win in a landslide?

Didn't he win by a large number of electoral college votes?

Quote from: Cerr on July 06, 2009, 05:25:16 PM
Didn't he win by a large number of electoral college votes?

Clinton won by more electoral votes than Obama in 1992 (200+), but only beat Bush, Sr. in the popular vote by less than 3 percentage points. EVs do not reflect popularity. Reagan swooped into the White House with an almost 10-point popular margin.

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 05:20:30 PM

Quote from: Razgovory on July 06, 2009, 05:11:58 PM
His own advisors thought the race was over in September.  McCain got a bump from the convention but they all knew it wasn't going to last.  McCain struggled the whole time due to lack of coherent strategy.  When he was stupified by the economic crash it only sealed the deal.

Which continues my point: if the GOP nominee and situation sucked so bad, why did Obama not win in a landslide?

The majority of rural and suburban white voters are racists. If Obama weren't some half-breed mongrel, he'd have attracted far more Southern crossovers (or hell, even Southern Democrats!), as Reagan did in the North.

Quote from: Fate on July 06, 2009, 05:33:04 PM
The majority of rural and suburban white voters are racists. If Obama weren't some half-breed mongrel, he'd have attracted far more Southern crossovers (or hell, even Southern Democrats!), as Reagan did in the North.

So there were plenty of people dead-set against the guy. Thus, if McCain just did a little better campaigning, or the economy had not crashed, he could have very well gained those three percentage points that would have won him the election. Obama was a lucky bastard.

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 05:29:30 PM

Quote from: Cerr on July 06, 2009, 05:25:16 PM
Didn't he win by a large number of electoral college votes?

Clinton won by more electoral votes than Obama in 1992, but only beat Bush, Sr. in the popular vote by less than 3 percentage points. Reagan swooped into the White House with an almost 10-point popular margin.

Reagan was up against the incumbent Carter who was deeply disliked by many people by 1980. If Obama was against Bush in 2008 there might have been a similar margin.

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 05:42:13 PM

Quote from: Fate on July 06, 2009, 05:33:04 PM
The majority of rural and suburban white voters are racists. If Obama weren't some half-breed mongrel, he'd have attracted far more Southern crossovers (or hell, even Southern Democrats!), as Reagan did in the North.

So there were plenty of people dead-set against the guy. Thus, if McCain just did a little better campaigning, or the economy had not crashed, he could have very well gained those three percentage points that would have won him the election. Obama was a lucky bastard.

You shouldn't respond to Fate.  Nothing he says is ever worthwhile or true.  He's a teenager, a Southerner, and poor.

Quote from: Cerr on July 06, 2009, 05:47:44 PM

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 05:29:30 PM

Quote from: Cerr on July 06, 2009, 05:25:16 PM
Didn't he win by a large number of electoral college votes?

Clinton won by more electoral votes than Obama in 1992, but only beat Bush, Sr. in the popular vote by less than 3 percentage points. Reagan swooped into the White House with an almost 10-point popular margin.

Reagan was up against the incumbent Carter who was deeply disliked by many people by 1980. If Obama was against Bush in 2008 there might have been a similar margin.

There were too many whites in 2008, particularly of the Southern subspecies. Perhaps in 2050 such a margin would be demographically feasible.

Quote from: Neil on July 06, 2009, 05:49:59 PM
You shouldn't respond to Fate.  Nothing he says is ever worthwhile or true.  He's a teenager, a Southerner, and poor.

Normally Cal gives that warning but since he is apparently asleep at the switch it was good of you to step in.

Quote from: Neil on July 06, 2009, 05:49:59 PM
You shouldn't respond to Fate.  Nothing he says is ever worthwhile or true.  He's a teenager, a Southerner, and poor.

:yes:

:(

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 06, 2009, 05:52:45 PM

Quote from: Neil on July 06, 2009, 05:49:59 PM
You shouldn't respond to Fate.  Nothing he says is ever worthwhile or true.  He's a teenager, a Southerner, and poor.

Normally Cal gives that warning but since he is apparently asleep at the switch it was good of you to step in.

Cal is passed out at BP right now, face down on the hot dog machine.

Quote from: Ed Anger on July 06, 2009, 05:55:21 PM

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 06, 2009, 05:52:45 PM

Quote from: Neil on July 06, 2009, 05:49:59 PM
You shouldn't respond to Fate.  Nothing he says is ever worthwhile or true.  He's a teenager, a Southerner, and poor.

Normally Cal gives that warning but since he is apparently asleep at the switch it was good of you to step in.

Cal is passed out at BP right now, face down on the hot dog machine.

:lol:

Quote from: Ed Anger on July 06, 2009, 05:55:21 PM
Cal is passed out at BP right now, face down on the hot dog machine.

:lol:

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 05:20:30 PM

Quote from: Razgovory on July 06, 2009, 05:11:58 PM
His own advisors thought the race was over in September.  McCain got a bump from the convention but they all knew it wasn't going to last.  McCain struggled the whole time due to lack of coherent strategy.  When he was stupified by the economic crash it only sealed the deal.

Which continues my point: if the GOP nominee and situation sucked so bad, why did Obama not win in a landslide?

He won by the most signicant percentage of any canidate in over 20 years.  That's not bad.  I'm not sure what you are arguing at this point though.  Please clarify.

Quote from: Hansmeister on July 06, 2009, 03:51:53 PM
Please, nobody in all of the nation acts dumber than Joe Biden.

The difference is everyone knew Biden before he was picked for VP.  I said shortly after the Palin pick that she had to be very, very careful because her public persona still wasn't defined.  So if her and Biden made identical stupid comments the response to Biden would be 'that's Biden' while it would be damaging to Sarah Palin because she had no other reputation.  I don't think her first month or so helped her and I don't think her behaviour since has, either.

She wasn't thrown to the wolves in terms of interviews.  I believe she had 2-3 weeks before her first interview and when you're running for one of the highest offices in the country then you should be able to face the media well before then.  She, to my knowledge, never held a press conference of any type.  McCain's fault wasn't that he mishandled her but that he picked her at all.

I'm not entirely anti-Palin (though of Evangelical friendly pols I prefer Huck), I think that if she'd had a couple more years in Alaska and spent some time working out her opinions on foreign policy she would've been a very persuasive Republican VP nom.  I thought, until last week, that if she buckled down, racked up some real achievements in her state, if she worked out her foreign policy ideas and if she, every couple of months, turned up on a Sunday news show to remind everyone that she exists, that she'd be a very persuasive Republican Presidential candidate in 2016, if not 2012 (I don't know if it's possible to do what you need to in the lower 48 if you're in Alaska).  I think she's thrown that out of the window and it's not enough to attack the media and Democrats for this.

Edit:  And I don't know about the 'stress getting to her family' idea.  I mean this very month she was posing in a magazine with Trig and doing interviews.  That that was going on and the sheer amateurish lack of preparation on her speech suggests that this was far more impulsive than a long-growing concern for her family.  Though that may well have been a large part of her decision.

QuoteAnswering a question of tastes in literature, musics, movies, etc. is no simple task. Judgments of identity are quickly gleaned from such answers.

It wasn't about literature or that sort of thing.  The question was about which newspapers and magazines she reads.  I think she said all of them, whatever her staff put in front of her and that though Americans think Alaska's so far away they do indeed have magazines.

maybe she has political cancer?

QuoteANCHORAGE, Alaska – Sarah Palin says she's not a quitter, she's a fighter, but adds that, politically speaking, "if I die, I die. So be it."

The Alaska governor spoke in taped interviews on ABC, NBC and CNN broadcast Tuesday morning.

She told CNN that "all options are on the table" for her future.

But told ABC's "Good Morning America" that she recognizes she might not have political staying power after her surprise resignation Friday, which came just as she had been expected to elevate her national profile ahead of a possible 2012 GOP presidential run.

"I said before ... 'You know, politically speaking, if I die, I die. So be it,'" she said.

Sounds like she is really only doing this because she feels some vague obligation to run again. 


Just sounds more and more bizarre.

I think it's extremely intellectually dishonest to accuse the media of being hard on her family or private life. Her family is a train wreck, but most journalists wouldn't dig too deep in that if she didn't choose herself to parade them in front of cameras for political gain. She was selling her retarded whore of a daughter as an "abstinence advocate" for fucks sake.

Quote from: Ed Anger on July 06, 2009, 05:55:21 PM
Cal is passed out at BP right now, face down on the hot dog machine.

The BP doesn't have a hot dog machine. ^_^

Quote from: Hansmeister on July 06, 2009, 03:40:23 PM
The GOP rallied around her for three reasons: First, she is HOTT.  Second, she has been a reform republican quite outside the mold of the inside-the-beltway establishment GOP.  And most importantly, she was hated by all the right people.  It is that last factor that has been her greatest benefit to date.

No the GOP that has rallied around her have because she is a Pentecostal with conservative social views that made them feel better about voting McCain.  Beyond that the rest of your reasons are not good enough for me to support her.

And please she did plenty enough to look ridiculous on her own without the dreaded evil MSM doing anything.

Quote from: Martinus on July 07, 2009, 07:58:18 AM
I think it's extremely intellectually dishonest to accuse the media of being hard on her family or private life. Her family is a train wreck, but most journalists wouldn't dig too deep in that if she didn't choose herself to parade them in front of cameras for political gain. She was selling her retarded whore of a daughter as an "abstinence advocate" for fucks sake.

The media would have gone after her family anyway, but yeah you're right in that she was asking for it in trying to use them publicly to help define her.

Quote from: Caliga on July 07, 2009, 08:04:25 AM
The media would have gone after her family anyway, but yeah you're right in that she was asking for it in trying to use them publicly to help define her.

Yeah well if you are going to do the whole social conservative thing you need them for your political credentials.  Pity they weren't a very good political family.

Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2009, 08:06:02 AMYeah well if you are going to do the whole social conservative thing you need them for your political credentials.  Pity they weren't a very good political family.

These days, it seems like a safe assumption that if you try to use "family values" as part of your platform, your own family life is ironically going to be a trainwreck.  :)

Quote from: Martinus on July 07, 2009, 07:58:18 AM
I think it's extremely intellectually dishonest to accuse the media of being hard on her family or private life. Her family is a train wreck, but most journalists wouldn't dig too deep in that if she didn't choose herself to parade them in front of cameras for political gain. She was selling her retarded whore of a daughter as an "abstinence advocate" for fucks sake.

I'd agree but it seems that all the candidates had their families out there during the campaign. Just what they do - show the family, no biggie. I'd be just as annoyed if the the kids of Biden, McCain, Obama were trashed. I guess it could be argued that Palin did more with family in the campaign, but then, she was also just coming on the national scene so her family, life and habits in Alaska, were in the media a lot more.

Quote from: Caliga on July 07, 2009, 08:07:42 AM
These days, it seems like a safe assumption that if you try to use "family values" as part of your platform, your own family life is ironically going to be a trainwreck.  :)

To be fair most families have trainwrecks.  I think my family is as stable as they come but heaven help us if we suddenly came under media scrutiny.

Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2009, 08:12:09 AM
To be fair most families have trainwrecks.  I think my family is as stable as they come but heaven help us if we suddenly came under media scrutiny.

I don't disagree.  I just think if you're going to make family values a part of your platform, your family better be the fucking Cleavers.  Otherwise, be a Dem or left-leaning Republican.  :cool:

What is such a trainwreck about her family life?

And hwo did she use it politically, at least insofar as they then "deserved it", whatever "it" is?

She has a family, they stand around when she is speaking sometimes...kind of like every single politicians family. Like, say for example, President Obama.

And what is this about "selling" her "whore" of a daughter? I don't recall her daughter being a prostitute, although I guess that would suggest something of a train wreck. I certainly do not recall her daughter claiming to be an "abstinence advocate", perhaps I missed that along with her turning tricks?

The irony of Marty slandering someone else on sexual grounds (much less sexual promiscuity grounds) would be funny if it wasn't so trite and common.

Quote from: Berkut on July 07, 2009, 08:14:16 AM
The irony of Marty slandering someone else on sexual grounds (much less sexual promiscuity grounds) would be funny if it wasn't so trite and common.

Nothing particularly ironic about Marty pointing out that the same sort of people who call him out as being immoral are not exactly paragons of virtue by their own standards.

Quote from: Caliga on July 07, 2009, 08:13:42 AM

Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2009, 08:12:09 AM
To be fair most families have trainwrecks.  I think my family is as stable as they come but heaven help us if we suddenly came under media scrutiny.

I don't disagree.  I just think if you're going to make family values a part of your platform, your family better be the fucking Cleavers.  Otherwise, be a Dem or left-leaning Republican.  :cool:

Every single politician in America makes "family values" part of their platform. I cannot think of a single one that claims that family values are not important.

I am still confused as to why Palins family is so much more a train wreck than anyone elses. Is this all about her daughter have a child out of marriage? Isn't that bitch a bit outdated these days?

Quote from: Berkut on July 07, 2009, 08:14:16 AM
What is such a trainwreck about her family life?

And hwo did she use it politically, at least insofar as they then "deserved it", whatever "it" is?

You don't understand.  Her daughter is a whore and she gives birth to retarded babies that should have been aborted.

Quote from: Berkut on July 07, 2009, 08:15:53 AM
I am still confused as to why Palins family is so much more a train wreck than anyone elses. Is this all about her daughter have a child out of marriage? Isn't that bitch a bit outdated these days?

I think it is about advancing how abstinence only education is the way to go and then...whoops.  Egg on face.  Context is important here.

There is nothing particularly unusual about her family.  I think that was the point I just made.

Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2009, 08:15:39 AM

Quote from: Berkut on July 07, 2009, 08:14:16 AM
The irony of Marty slandering someone else on sexual grounds (much less sexual promiscuity grounds) would be funny if it wasn't so trite and common.

Nothing particularly ironic about Marty pointing out that the same sort of people who call him out as being immoral are not exactly paragons of virtue by their own standards.

But he didn't do that - he called her a "retarded whore". Her being a whore is not dependent on Marty fucking anything and everything that gets close to him, or her opinion (which as far as I know she has never once expressed) about his homosexuality.

He didn't blast her for being a hypocrite, he blasted her for being a "retarded whore" and he blasted Palin for "selling her".

Quote from: DisturbedPervert on July 07, 2009, 08:17:27 AM
Her daughter is a whore and she gives birth to retarded babies that should have been aborted.

DP gets it! :w00t:

:P

Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2009, 08:06:02 AM

Quote from: Caliga on July 07, 2009, 08:04:25 AM
The media would have gone after her family anyway, but yeah you're right in that she was asking for it in trying to use them publicly to help define her.

Yeah well if you are going to do the whole social conservative thing you need them for your political credentials.  Pity they weren't a very good political family.

I disagree. It's not like Cheney's lesbian daughter would have scored him a lot of points with the conservative right, either. But then he didn't choose to parade her around and the media didn't go into feeding frenzy on her either.

Quote from: Berkut on July 07, 2009, 08:15:53 AMI am still confused as to why Palins family is so much more a train wreck than anyone elses. Is this all about her daughter have a child out of marriage? Isn't that bitch a bit outdated these days?

I think it's less the child out of wedlock thing than the "you can't see your child" thing re: Bristol and the baby daddy, whose name I can't even remember.  I don't really care about Palin's family all that much, I merely like to point out the irony in it all.

...and I think you've made the point about all politicians making family values part of their platform before... but I don't know that I agree with that.

Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2009, 08:17:52 AM

Quote from: Berkut on July 07, 2009, 08:15:53 AM
I am still confused as to why Palins family is so much more a train wreck than anyone elses. Is this all about her daughter have a child out of marriage? Isn't that bitch a bit outdated these days?

I think it is about advancing how abstinence only education is the way to go and then...whoops.  Egg on face.  Context is important here.

So as long as Palin thinks abstinence is a good idea, then the fact that her daughter has a kid is somehow "egg on face"? I am not sure I understand how that context works.

Maybe her daughter wanted to have a child? I don't know - I just don't see how it follows that her daugher having a kid is somehow a good reason to accuse Palin of 'selling her retarded whore of a daughter".

Maybe you could explain that chain of reasoning to me?

Quote from: KRonn on July 07, 2009, 08:08:15 AM

Quote from: Martinus on July 07, 2009, 07:58:18 AM
I think it's extremely intellectually dishonest to accuse the media of being hard on her family or private life. Her family is a train wreck, but most journalists wouldn't dig too deep in that if she didn't choose herself to parade them in front of cameras for political gain. She was selling her retarded whore of a daughter as an "abstinence advocate" for fucks sake.

I'd agree but it seems that all the candidates had their families out there during the campaign. Just what they do - show the family, no biggie. I'd be just as annoyed if the the kids of Biden, McCain, Obama were trashed. I guess it could be argued that Palin did more with family in the campaign, but then, she was also just coming on the national scene so her family, life and habits in Alaska, were in the media a lot more.

I don't know about that. I don't remember McCain's daughter being given a lot of limelight - in fact, the first time I heard about her at all, was when she came out in support of gay marriage after the elections.

Quote from: KRonn on July 07, 2009, 08:08:15 AM
I'd agree but it seems that all the candidates had their families out there during the campaign. Just what they do - show the family, no biggie. I'd be just as annoyed if the the kids of Biden, McCain, Obama were trashed. I guess it could be argued that Palin did more with family in the campaign, but then, she was also just coming on the national scene so her family, life and habits in Alaska, were in the media a lot more.

The difference is that their families haven't been that interesting.  I mean given that joke McCain made in the 90s about Chelsea Clinton being so ugly because her dad's Janet Reno I don't think that campaign could cordon off their families.  But I'm sure we'd hear a lot if, say, Chelsea Clinton got pregnant when she was 18, or what have you.

Speaking of her I recently met her landlords from Oxford.  The security stuff they were saying about was ridiculous.  Some of it had to be removed recently because, for example, the high speed gates that clamp shut when a panic button's pressed put someone into hospital for a few days when there was a party at the house and someone drunkenly pressed the panic button :lol:

QuoteAnd hwo did she use it politically, at least insofar as they then "deserved it", whatever "it" is?

Well I think she's discussed Trig, for example, a lot more than is normal.  Sometimes I think it is just crass and political (Runner's World) but her pro-life speech in Indiana when she discussed the thought she had of having an abortion I think is terrific and gives a hint of the politician she could have been with a bit more time, and possibly that she could still be in the future.  It's a really remarkable, very moving and honest speech.  By far and away the best she's given that I've heard of.

I think using a family politically is a bit like porn.  It's difficult to describe but you know it when you see it.  There've been a couple of times when I thought that of Palin.

Quote from: Berkut on July 07, 2009, 08:20:47 AM
So as long as Palin thinks abstinence is a good idea, then the fact that her daughter has a kid is somehow "egg on face"? I am not sure I understand how that context works.

Maybe her daughter wanted to have a child? I don't know - I just don't see how it follows that her daugher having a kid is somehow a good reason to accuse Palin of 'selling her retarded whore of a daughter".

Maybe you could explain that chain of reasoning to me?

No I am not defending Marty's histrionics as my own ideas.  I simply pointed out how her family was a source of political embarrasment not that she is a pimp or anything.

Palin's deficiencies, in my eyes, had little to do with her personal life.

Quote from: Martinus on July 07, 2009, 08:21:04 AM

Quote from: KRonn on July 07, 2009, 08:08:15 AM

Quote from: Martinus on July 07, 2009, 07:58:18 AM
I think it's extremely intellectually dishonest to accuse the media of being hard on her family or private life. Her family is a train wreck, but most journalists wouldn't dig too deep in that if she didn't choose herself to parade them in front of cameras for political gain. She was selling her retarded whore of a daughter as an "abstinence advocate" for fucks sake.

I'd agree but it seems that all the candidates had their families out there during the campaign. Just what they do - show the family, no biggie. I'd be just as annoyed if the the kids of Biden, McCain, Obama were trashed. I guess it could be argued that Palin did more with family in the campaign, but then, she was also just coming on the national scene so her family, life and habits in Alaska, were in the media a lot more.

I don't know about that. I don't remember McCain's daughter being given a lot of limelight - in fact, the first time I heard about her at all, was when she came out in support of gay marriage after the elections.

McCain had a granddaughter that was pretty prominent, and certainly Obamas family was paraded in front of the cameras at every opportunity. I don't think there is a choice here - if you are a politician, your family is going to be on camera whether you like it or not. If you are ancient, and don't have young children, your fam will get something of a break, I guess.

But really. The bush daughters, Clintons kid, the Obamas, they are all going to be seen.

Quote from: Martinus on July 07, 2009, 08:21:04 AM
I don't know about that. I don't remember McCain's daughter being given a lot of limelight - in fact, the first time I heard about her at all, was when she came out in support of gay marriage after the elections.

She was stumping round the country and had her own blog during the campaign.  She just wasn't that interesting.  Of course you wouldn't have known given that you apparently get your news from some gay newswire :p

Quote from: Berkut on July 07, 2009, 08:14:16 AM
I certainly do not recall her daughter claiming to be an "abstinence advocate"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/5288179/Bristol-Palin-campaigns-for-teenage-abstinence.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-05-06-palin-teen-sex_N.htm

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=7510385&page=1

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/06/bristol-palin-says-abstin_n_197597.html

I could easily come up with more links for this.

Quote from: Sheilbh on July 07, 2009, 08:22:10 AM
I think using a family politically is a bit like porn.  It's difficult to describe but you know it when you see it.  There've been a couple of times when I thought that of Palin.

I think it is more a matter of whether you wish to use them to slander someone or not. If you do, then of course it is compleetely ridiculous to whore them out for the press, and if not, they are just a fine example of an upstanding and pleasing icon of the American Nuclear Family.

Palin's family is nothing special. Seem like a pretty well put together family, and the fact that she has a kid with autism or downs or whatever is certainly a bit more interesting than the fact that she has a daughter who had a child.

Marty suddenly becoming the Moral Majority when it suits him is pretty good though. Now THAT is some hypocrisy!

Quote from: Berkut on July 07, 2009, 08:23:43 AM
McCain had a granddaughter that was pretty prominent, and certainly Obamas family was paraded in front of the cameras at every opportunity. I don't think there is a choice here - if you are a politician, your family is going to be on camera whether you like it or not. If you are ancient, and don't have young children, your fam will get something of a break, I guess.

But really. The bush daughters, Clintons kid, the Obamas, they are all going to be seen.

This is one of the biggest differences between UK and US politics.  I can think of maybe 5 photos of Blair or Brown with their children in the press and only 1-2 for Cameron.  Here the rule is if you keep you family private then the press'll generally respect that (unless they get caught drunk and disorderly like Euan Blair) and if you take them public you'll get slammed for using them.

Then, in this country, when a politician brings out the children it's almost certain he's asking the press to 'respect his privacy' after he's been caught having an affair.

Quote from: Martinus on July 07, 2009, 08:26:54 AM

Quote from: Berkut on July 07, 2009, 08:14:16 AM
I certainly do not recall her daughter claiming to be an "abstinence advocate"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/5288179/Bristol-Palin-campaigns-for-teenage-abstinence.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-05-06-palin-teen-sex_N.htm

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=7510385&page=1

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/06/bristol-palin-says-abstin_n_197597.html

I could easily come up with more links for this.

Ahh, so the fact that she said abstinence is the best way to avoid pregnancy, and she wishes she had waited to have sex is the reason you have morally decided she is a "retarded whore" whose mother "sells her"?

Gotcha.

Quote from: Martinus on July 07, 2009, 08:21:04 AM
I don't know about that. I don't remember McCain's daughter being given a lot of limelight - in fact, the first time I heard about her at all, was when she came out in support of gay marriage after the elections.

:huh:

McCain's daughter was actively campaigning for him.  Just no one was interested in her.  They were all interested in Palin's whore daughter and tard baby conspiracies.  Hell, at times on Languish there would be a dozen Palin threads on the front page.

Quote from: Sheilbh on July 07, 2009, 08:27:35 AM

Quote from: Berkut on July 07, 2009, 08:23:43 AM
McCain had a granddaughter that was pretty prominent, and certainly Obamas family was paraded in front of the cameras at every opportunity. I don't think there is a choice here - if you are a politician, your family is going to be on camera whether you like it or not. If you are ancient, and don't have young children, your fam will get something of a break, I guess.

But really. The bush daughters, Clintons kid, the Obamas, they are all going to be seen.

This is one of the biggest differences between UK and US politics.  I can think of maybe 5 photos of Blair or Brown with their children in the press and only 1-2 for Cameron.  Here the rule is if you keep you family private then the press'll generally respect that (unless they get caught drunk and disorderly like Euan Blair) and if you take them public you'll get slammed for using them.

Then, in this country, when a politician brings out the children it's almost certain he's asking the press to 'respect his privacy' after he's been caught having an affair.

I wish it worked that way here.

But then, I think "family values" are generally just code words for "We would like to stick our nose into your sex life".

Quote from: Berkut on July 07, 2009, 08:30:10 AM

Quote from: Martinus on July 07, 2009, 08:26:54 AM

Quote from: Berkut on July 07, 2009, 08:14:16 AM
I certainly do not recall her daughter claiming to be an "abstinence advocate"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/5288179/Bristol-Palin-campaigns-for-teenage-abstinence.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-05-06-palin-teen-sex_N.htm

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=7510385&page=1

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/06/bristol-palin-says-abstin_n_197597.html

I could easily come up with more links for this.

Ahh, so the fact that she said abstinence is the best way to avoid pregnancy, and she wishes she had waited to have sex is the reason you have morally decided she is a "retarded whore" whose mother "sells her"?

Gotcha.

Well, she is a retarded whore for not knowing how to use contraceptives.

Quote from: DisturbedPervert on July 07, 2009, 08:30:20 AM
Hell, at times on Languish there would be a dozen Palin threads on the front page.

Those were dark days at Languish. Fatetard-ism was at its height, with the occasional Countmoveon.org appearance.

Quote from: DisturbedPervert on July 07, 2009, 08:30:20 AM
Hell, at times on Languish there would be a dozen Palin threads on the front page.

Seriously?  Wow we are sad sad little men.

Quote from: Ed Anger on July 07, 2009, 08:32:49 AM
Those were dark days at Languish. Fatetard-ism was at its height, with the occasional Countmoveon.org appearance.

I quiver at the horror of such a depraved era.

Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2009, 08:33:00 AM

Quote from: DisturbedPervert on July 07, 2009, 08:30:20 AM
Hell, at times on Languish there would be a dozen Palin threads on the front page.

Seriously?  Wow we are sad sad little men.

No, just the ones who thought that the best way to attack McCain was to call his running mates daughter a "retarded whore".

Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2009, 08:33:00 AM

Quote from: DisturbedPervert on July 07, 2009, 08:30:20 AM
Hell, at times on Languish there would be a dozen Palin threads on the front page.

Seriously?  Wow we are sad sad little men.

No. What a bunch of revisionist history. There was a GOP oriented mega thread and a Democrat oriented mega thread.

Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2009, 08:33:00 AM

Quote from: DisturbedPervert on July 07, 2009, 08:30:20 AM
Hell, at times on Languish there would be a dozen Palin threads on the front page.

Seriously?  Wow we are sad sad little men.

She was entirely new.  A dozen threads on Obama, Biden or McCain wouldn't have added much new information in September.  No-one really knew much about Palin then, except for BBoy and maybe Hans (who has a GOP-taint as I believe he picked her and Sanford as future stars/candidates), so she was more interesting.

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 05:24:18 PM

Quote from: Martinus on July 06, 2009, 05:19:51 PM
I thought we have already established that you are mentally challenged, though. You are that Korean soldier person, right? I don't have good memory for newbish nicknames.

I've been on Languish longer than you've been gay.

:face:

Quote from: Martinus on July 07, 2009, 08:31:28 AM
Well, she is a retarded whore for not knowing how to use contraceptives.

Contraceptives (well condoms and such) don't work 100% of the time.  Of course birth control pills are a different matter so if she was going to be having sex...but I digress.

But I think just the very idea of breeding is so horrid to you, you are just flailing out in blind rage now.

Quote from: Martinus on July 07, 2009, 08:26:54 AM

Quote from: Berkut on July 07, 2009, 08:14:16 AM
I certainly do not recall her daughter claiming to be an "abstinence advocate"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/5288179/Bristol-Palin-campaigns-for-teenage-abstinence.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-05-06-palin-teen-sex_N.htm

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=7510385&page=1

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/06/bristol-palin-says-abstin_n_197597.html

I could easily come up with more links for this.

All of those links are from after the campaign, and there have been some stories that Bristol Palin went behind her mother's back to set up at least the first interviews.

I don't think Palin had much choice during the campaign: every politician has to roll his or her family out, and in Palin's case she would either have to try to hide Bristol or allow her and her boyfriend to be front and center. The former would have made her seem like an embarrassed parent with 1950s values.

Quote from: Fate on July 07, 2009, 08:37:44 AM
No. What a bunch of revisionist history. There was a GOP oriented mega thread and a Democrat oriented mega thread.

Bull fucking shit.  At one point I counted 32 separate Sarah Palin threads.

Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2009, 08:35:02 AM

Quote from: Ed Anger on July 07, 2009, 08:32:49 AM
Those were dark days at Languish. Fatetard-ism was at its height, with the occasional Countmoveon.org appearance.

I quiver at the horror of such a depraved era.

I armored myself in my own righteousness. How the rest of you plebs survived the era of shit, I don't know.

Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2009, 08:35:02 AM

Quote from: Ed Anger on July 07, 2009, 08:32:49 AM
Those were dark days at Languish. Fatetard-ism was at its height, with the occasional Countmoveon.org appearance.

I quiver at the horror of such a depraved era.

Hardly depraved at all. Entertaining and lively are appropriate descriptions of the primary and pre-election period.

Now all we have to talk about are retard whore daughters of washed up VP candidates.

It's funny, I am trying to find the evidence of Bristol Palins idiocy in regards to contraception.

From the links Marty provided but clearly did not read, her position is that abstinence is the only certain method of birth control, as her own example makes clear, since she did in fact use condoms "most of the time" and she also stated that it is "not at all realistic" to expect that teens won't have sex. Most of her activism has been centered, as far as I can tell, around pregnancy awareness.

I am guessing that the people who are going after this young woman on anonymous message boards don't have a fraction of her courage. Anyone think Marty or Fate would have the balls to call her a "retarded whore" to her face?

Quote from: Berkut on July 07, 2009, 09:01:29 AM
It's funny, I am trying to find the evidence of Bristol Palins idiocy in regards to contraception.

From the links Marty provided but clearly did not read, her position is that abstinence is the only certain method of birth control, as her own example makes clear, since she did in fact use condoms "most of the time" and she also stated that it is "not at all realistic" to expect that teens won't have sex. Most of her activism has been centered, as far as I can tell, around pregnancy awareness.

I am guessing that the people who are going after this young woman on anonymous message boards don't have a fraction of her courage. Anyone think Marty or Fate would have the balls to call her a "retarded whore" to her face?

Yes. Retard whore. It doesn't take courage to lie down and fuck a white trash meth addict. It takes courage to walk into the clinic and get an abortion. She shrieked from her responsibility.

Palin's daughter having a kid is a political embarrassment but I really don't buy that it's all that big a deal, except to those who make politics the rule and see things through that prism. Palin believes in abstinence (maybe other birth control methods, don't know). Not every method works 100%. But we get the haters, those who have a thing for birth control, abortion, as strong issues but who just have to trash someone if they use abstinence. Do we trash people using contraceptives but who get pregnant anyway? It's partly ideology and is just way over the top. In fact, I give the Palin family more credit for dealing with what happened pretty well. The daughter has been on some tv spots or what ever talking about how it's a bad idea to get pregnant out of wedlock, or at such a young age. Talking to other young girls about the problems and pitfalls of it. But the pundits and angry folks ignore that good message and just focus on the trashing. I just don't care that much about it, but it's become so political it's just nuts. TV talk shows had the father of the kid on tv spots talking about what ever, made a circus of that.

I don't find Palin a political figure I can support, but she continues to get more sympathy from me due to the vultures trashing every little thing. Just too much. PDS - Palin Derangement Syndrome.

Quote from: Fate on July 07, 2009, 09:05:21 AM

Quote from: Berkut on July 07, 2009, 09:01:29 AM
It's funny, I am trying to find the evidence of Bristol Palins idiocy in regards to contraception.

From the links Marty provided but clearly did not read, her position is that abstinence is the only certain method of birth control, as her own example makes clear, since she did in fact use condoms "most of the time" and she also stated that it is "not at all realistic" to expect that teens won't have sex. Most of her activism has been centered, as far as I can tell, around pregnancy awareness.

I am guessing that the people who are going after this young woman on anonymous message boards don't have a fraction of her courage. Anyone think Marty or Fate would have the balls to call her a "retarded whore" to her face?

Yes. Retard whore. It doesn't take courage to lie down and fuck a white trash meth addict. It takes courage to walk into the clinic and get an abortion. She shrieked from her responsibility.

Like far too many kids do today. And because of your angry, hateful political ideology, you come out with trash because the person in question, her mother actually, is of the other political side. You made the point I was alluding to in my previous post.

Quote from: frunk on July 06, 2009, 01:22:36 PM
Try http://www.politico.com/pdf/PPM124_release_for_7-4-09-1.pdf

Thanks.  JR is right, though:  this is so absurd as to be unintentional farce.  Couldn't Palin even afford competent lawyers?

We have to remember, the quality of lawyer she's getting is on par with the likes of BarristerBoy. Who else would want to move up to such a god awful climate?

To be fair most of those were concered with how hot she is.

Quote from: DisturbedPervert on July 07, 2009, 08:41:37 AM

Quote from: Fate on July 07, 2009, 08:37:44 AM
No. What a bunch of revisionist history. There was a GOP oriented mega thread and a Democrat oriented mega thread.

Bull fucking shit.  At one point I counted 32 separate Sarah Palin threads.

Quote from: Phillip V on July 06, 2009, 05:29:30 PM
Clinton won by more electoral votes than Obama in 1992 (200+), but only beat Bush, Sr. in the popular vote by less than 3 percentage points. EVs do not reflect popularity. Reagan swooped into the White House with an almost 10-point popular margin.

Obama won a greater percentage of the popular vote than Reagan did.  So what?

Not sure what you are trying to prove here.  Palin was a net negative to the McCain ticket, and I don't think anyone can seriously question that.  McCain gambled on her, and looked good for a few days, and then crashed.

You can argue that each and every time she screwed the pooch, it was because of something like "it is hard to say what magazines one reads," but the only good thing about Palin for her supporters is that they never have to explain why she did something right!

Quote from: Fate on July 07, 2009, 09:26:17 AM
We have to remember, the quality of lawyer she's getting is likely on par with the likes of BarristerBoy. Who else would want to move up to such a god awful climate?

:angry:

BB is the greatest lawman north of Skagway!

Quote from: Berkut on July 07, 2009, 09:01:29 AM
It's funny, I am trying to find the evidence of Bristol Palins idiocy in regards to contraception.

Dont think you will find any either.

My recollection is that shortly after Palin was selected as the running mate stories began circulating in the media about her daughter's pregnancy which in turn raised questions about Palin's stance on abortion.  The way she dealt with that issue made her very popular with the Religious Right - something McCain needed.

Now Marty wants us to think Palin's daughter is a retarded whore.  :rolleyes:  It is the Martys of the world that ironically ensure Palin's popularity and her place in the spot light as the paragon of the Religious Right fighting against these personal attacks.

I just think it is funny that it is the supposed "progressives" who are calling her a "retarded whore" because she got pregnant out of marriage.

Why, that sounds so very...Conservitard!

Quote from: Berkut on July 07, 2009, 10:22:28 AM
I just think it is funny that it is the supposed "progressives" who are calling her a "retarded whore" because she got pregnant out of marriage.

Why, that sounds so very...Conservitard!

Mere logic and intellectual honesty does not stop Marti from adopting GOPtard stances when the whim strikes.  It's not like he was "progressive" out of conviction, or anything.

Quote from: Berkut on July 07, 2009, 10:22:28 AM
I just think it is funny that it is the supposed "progressives" who are calling her a "retarded whore" because she got pregnant out of marriage.

Why, that sounds so very...Conservitard!

Which 'progressives'?  Do you mean Marti?  He may have many personalities but he's still just one.

Quote from: Sheilbh on July 07, 2009, 11:31:31 AM

Quote from: Berkut on July 07, 2009, 10:22:28 AM
I just think it is funny that it is the supposed "progressives" who are calling her a "retarded whore" because she got pregnant out of marriage.

Why, that sounds so very...Conservitard!

Which 'progressives'?  Do you mean Marti?  He may have many personalities but he's still just one.

Valmy.

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on July 07, 2009, 11:36:40 AM
Valmy.

I must have missed when I said anything at all about caring about her daughter getting pregnant out of marriage.

It was politically embarrasing for Palin but that's it.  Again what Marty says about something is not my opinion despite what some people in this thread seem to think.  :P

Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2009, 11:38:14 AM

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on July 07, 2009, 11:36:40 AM
Valmy.

I must have missed when I said anything at all about caring about her daughter getting pregnant out of marriage.

It was politically embarrasing for Palin but that's it.  Again what Marty says about something is not my opinion despite what some people in this thread seem to think.  :P

Whatever.  You're left wing reactionary views are well stated.

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on July 07, 2009, 11:42:43 AM
Whatever.  You're left wing reactionary views are well stated.

Well at least they are well stated.

Quote from: Sheilbh on July 07, 2009, 11:31:31 AM

Quote from: Berkut on July 07, 2009, 10:22:28 AM
I just think it is funny that it is the supposed "progressives" who are calling her a "retarded whore" because she got pregnant out of marriage.

Why, that sounds so very...Conservitard!

Which 'progressives'?  Do you mean Marti?  He may have many personalities but he's still just one.

He was the only one pushing that except for Jaron and Fireblade who were trolling.

Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2009, 11:46:16 AM

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on July 07, 2009, 11:42:43 AM
Whatever.  You're left wing reactionary views are well stated.

Well at least they are well stated.

I'd never say you were anything less than eloquent.  Ultra Left wing yes.  Unwell spoken no.

Marti is not a liberal. he's a zealot.

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on July 07, 2009, 11:50:21 AM
I'd never say you were anything less than eloquent.  Ultra Left wing yes.  Unwell spoken no.

Um...thanks.  Enjoying your crack pipe there Wags?

Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2009, 11:54:57 AM

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on July 07, 2009, 11:50:21 AM
I'd never say you were anything less than eloquent.  Ultra Left wing yes.  Unwell spoken no.

Um...thanks.  Enjoying your crack pipe there Wags?

There is the corking crack we've come to know and love from our friend in Merry Olde England.

Quote from: saskganesh on July 07, 2009, 11:53:11 AM
Marti is not a liberal. he's a zealot.

He takes what ever ideology gets him more cock.  If the Catholic Church made cock-sucking a sacrament he's be part of opus dei.

Quote from: Razgovory on July 07, 2009, 11:58:15 AM

Quote from: saskganesh on July 07, 2009, 11:53:11 AM
Marti is not a liberal. he's a zealot.

He takes what ever ideology gets him more cock.  If the Catholic Church made cock-sucking a sacrament he's be part of opus dei.

lol

Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2009, 11:54:57 AM

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on July 07, 2009, 11:50:21 AM
I'd never say you were anything less than eloquent.  Ultra Left wing yes.  Unwell spoken no.

Um...thanks.  Enjoying your crack pipe there Wags?

He's right though, your radicalism is well known. :yes:

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 07, 2009, 03:18:42 PM
He's right though, your radicalism is well known. :yes:

I am a natural revolutionary ready to lead the people to truth and justice and two chickens in every pot.

Quote from: Razgovory on July 07, 2009, 11:58:15 AM

Quote from: saskganesh on July 07, 2009, 11:53:11 AM
Marti is not a liberal. he's a zealot.

He takes what ever ideology gets him more cock.  If the Catholic Church made cock-sucking a sacrament he's be part of opus dei.

:D

Quitters never prosper.   :thumbsdown:

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Quote from: Habsburg on July 07, 2009, 04:21:22 PM
Quitters never prosper.   :thumbsdown:

Not to go too off topic but Sarah Palin is a whiny little bitch; her voice makes me want to use steak knives as ear plugs.

Quote from: Fate on July 07, 2009, 09:26:17 AM
We have to remember, the quality of lawyer she's getting is on par with the likes of BarristerBoy. Who else would want to move up to such a god awful climate?

I'm happy to know she's receiving such excellent legal advice.   :cool:

Quote from: Barrister on July 07, 2009, 07:56:10 PM

Quote from: Fate on July 07, 2009, 09:26:17 AM
We have to remember, the quality of lawyer she's getting is on par with the likes of BarristerBoy. Who else would want to move up to such a god awful climate?

I'm happy to know she's receiving such excellent legal advice.   :cool:

I don't think a Crown prosecutor would be useful in bringing a defamation suit in the US.

Quote from: Razgovory on July 07, 2009, 11:58:15 AM

Quote from: saskganesh on July 07, 2009, 11:53:11 AM
Marti is not a liberal. he's a zealot.

He takes what ever ideology gets him more cock.  If the Catholic Church made cock-sucking a sacrament he's be part of opus dei.

pfft like it's not.



:p

Levi is going to need to be... silenced soon.  :menace:

QuoteLevi Johnston: Lot of divorce talk in Palin home
He says she neglected parenting and governorship duties in favor of money
updated 2:10 p.m. ET, Wed., Sept . 2, 2009

He almost became a member of the Palin family, but Levi Johnston — who fathered former Gov. Sarah Palin's grandchild with her daughter Bristol — isn't holding back when it comes to spilling the Alaska clan's secrets.

"There was a lot of talk of divorce in that house ... times when Sarah and Todd would mention it and sound pretty serious," says Johnston, who turns 19 this year. (Last month, the couple denied Internet rumors of a pending divorce.)

But that wasn't all. In a wide-ranging interview with Vanity Fair in its October issue, out nationally Sept. 8, the teen says that the onetime vice-presidential nominee's frequent self-description as a "hockey mom" who put family above career was far from the truth.

"Even before she was nominated, there wasn't much parenting in that house," he says. "Sarah doesn't cook, Todd doesn't cook — the kids would do it all themselves: cook, clean, do the laundry, and get ready for school. Most of the time Bristol would help her youngest sister with her homework, and I'd barbecue chicken or steak on the grill."

But it was the people of Alaska who might've suffered worse, according to Johnston. Palin often complained that her job as governor was "too hard," and after spending a couple weeks of being gloomy about losing the vice presidency, she focused on making money instead of the needs of Alaskans, he said.

Talk of quitting
"Sarah was sad for a while. She walked around the house pouting," Johnston says. "A week or two after she got back she started talking about how nice it would be to quit and write a book or do a show and make 'triple the money.' She would blatantly say, 'I want to just take this money and quit being governor.' "

Palin resigned from her post as governor of Alaska in July.

Her bid for the White House definitely got to the head of the woman from Wasilla, Johnston adds, saying she'd say things like: "I brought everything to the table" and "The majority of people were out there voting because of me!" when supporters of U.S. Sen. John McCain started to blame her for the loss. "She definitely thought she was running for president," Johnston says.

Palin's ambition for higher office also affected the family's plans for Bristol and Johnston's baby, he says. The governor planned for the baby to be adopted by herself and her husband, Todd, with his real parentage to be kept a secret.

"That way, she said, Bristol and I didn't have to worry about anything," Johnston says. "Sarah kept mentioning this plan. She was nagging – she wouldn't give up. She would say, 'So, are you gonna let me adopt him?' I think Sarah wanted to make Bristol look good, and she didn't want people to know that her 17-year-old daughter was going to have a kid."

I don't even listen or believe much of what this twit Levi has to say. He is being toasted by the media, getting his half hour of fame, getting paid probably, and being used to get material to go after the scary conservative female. Don't care, and I'm not that interested in the details of Palin and/or her family, whether factual or not.

Quote from: KRonn on September 03, 2009, 07:48:31 AM
I don't even listen or believe much of what this twit Levi has to say. He is being toasted by the media, getting his half hour of fame, getting paid probably, and being used to get material to go after the scary conservative female. Don't care, and I'm not that interested in the details of Palin and/or her family, whether factual or not.

Of course he's getting paid.  I'm sure there's some truth to what he's saying, and Palin is a goofball no matter what, but let's remember that he's a teenager (and thus worthless and a liar), he's getting paid to 'dish dirt', and that Palin's political life is already over.

Yeah, teenagers say stupid things like this.  I don't believe much of it.

I agree, Palin says stupid things and shouldn't be believed.