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Title: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: alfred russel on August 01, 2014, 12:30:37 PM
My point of view:

Greatest State: California (taxes, cost of living, etc. may suck, but the place is gorgeous with great weather and great cities)

Worst State: Texas (oppressive in summers, society structured around indoor airconditioned spaces)
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: DGuller on August 01, 2014, 12:40:11 PM
In my experience:

Greatest State:  New Jersey
Worst State:  New York
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Razgovory on August 01, 2014, 12:41:03 PM
Best state: Missouri, I live there!

Worst state:Missouri, Raz lives there.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 12:48:27 PM
Best State: Catalonia; you got the work opportunities associated with Spain's second largest city and economic area coupled with great Mediterranean beaches, night life, and weather; best of both worlds.

Worst State: Extremadura; like Andalucía (hot, poor and dry) but without the good things of Andalucía (culture, night life and wine).
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Iormlund on August 01, 2014, 12:49:59 PM
Catalonia is full of Catalans though.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Valmy on August 01, 2014, 12:51:59 PM
Best State: Um....hmmmm....I always liked Virginia I guess.  It is for lovers.  Louisiana has the best food.

Worst State: Oklahoma.  Horribly hot like Texas during the summer, brutally freezing cold during the winter.  Also: filled with land thieving Okies.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Savonarola on August 01, 2014, 12:53:50 PM
Best State (not including Michigan or Florida):  Washington (Mountains, Pacific rain forests, wine, Seattle, coffee)
Worst State:  Ohio
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 12:55:23 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on August 01, 2014, 12:49:59 PM
Catalonia is full of Catalans though.

The only other "lots-of-industry-but-with-great-food-and-beaches" place in Spain is the Basque Country, though.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Iormlund on August 01, 2014, 12:57:27 PM
Yeah. It's hard to find out a place in Spain that has good standards of living without annoying locals.  :P
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Liep on August 01, 2014, 12:58:38 PM
The only country I remember visiting that has distinctive states is Australia, but all four states I visited were pretty goddamn fantastic so can't choose.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Barrister on August 01, 2014, 12:59:28 PM
Best state in the union is quite clearly Alaska.   :cool:

The worst?  I'm trying to limit it to states I've been to, rather than rely on just reputation.  Honestly, even though I'm rather fond of the place for some rather nostalgic reasons, I'd probably have to say North Dakota.  Can't think of a state I'd be less likely to visit again.

Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 01, 2014, 01:05:25 PM
Best state: anywhere other than where I am
Worst state: unemployment
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: The Larch on August 01, 2014, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 12:48:27 PMWorst State: Extremadura; like Andalucía (hot, poor and dry) but without the good things of Andalucía (culture, night life and wine).

They do wonders with pork there, though.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Ideologue on August 01, 2014, 01:08:06 PM
My idea of Washington, my experience of South Carolina.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 01:09:07 PM
Quote from: The Larch on August 01, 2014, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 12:48:27 PMWorst State: Extremadura; like Andalucía (hot, poor and dry) but without the good things of Andalucía (culture, night life and wine).

They do wonders with pork there, though.

I think that's a common trait of Iberian peoples though, nobody beats us at making all sorts of delicious stuff out of pork.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: garbon on August 01, 2014, 01:10:53 PM
California best, Arizona worst.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 01, 2014, 01:11:46 PM
Of the states I've visited Mississippi was the dingiest and most run down looking.  Massachussets (at least Boston metro) has the nastiest people and the shittiest weather.

I'm hard pressed to come up with a best state.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: The Larch on August 01, 2014, 01:12:02 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 01:09:07 PM
Quote from: The Larch on August 01, 2014, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 12:48:27 PMWorst State: Extremadura; like Andalucía (hot, poor and dry) but without the good things of Andalucía (culture, night life and wine).

They do wonders with pork there, though.

I think that's a common trait of Iberian peoples though, nobody beats us at making all sorts of delicious stuff out of pork.

And in Extremadura they excel at that, so automatically they can't be the worst. Castilla la Mancha, though...
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 01, 2014, 01:13:28 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 01, 2014, 01:11:46 PM
Of the states I've visited Mississippi was the dingiest and most run down looking.

I only spent any real time in the Vickburg area, but man, what a fucking dump.  Just depressing.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Grinning_Colossus on August 01, 2014, 01:17:21 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 01, 2014, 01:10:53 PM
California best, Arizona worst.



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Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: alfred russel on August 01, 2014, 01:18:40 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 01, 2014, 01:10:53 PM
California best, Arizona worst.

I have hardly spent any time in Arizona, but if my impressions are right that is basically the same as my answer.  :hug:
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 01:21:25 PM
Quote from: The Larch on August 01, 2014, 01:12:02 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 01:09:07 PM
Quote from: The Larch on August 01, 2014, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 12:48:27 PMWorst State: Extremadura; like Andalucía (hot, poor and dry) but without the good things of Andalucía (culture, night life and wine).

They do wonders with pork there, though.

I think that's a common trait of Iberian peoples though, nobody beats us at making all sorts of delicious stuff out of pork.

And in Extremadura they excel at that, so automatically they can't be the worst. Castilla la Mancha, though...

I admit it was a close call between Extremadura and La Mancha, but I love Toledo; few things in life not involving sex beat getting terminally drunk among those medieval walls.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: PRC on August 01, 2014, 02:23:33 PM
Best State: Washington State
Worst State: North Dakota

Best Province: British Columbia
Worst Province: Quebec
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: garbon on August 01, 2014, 02:30:34 PM
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on August 01, 2014, 01:17:21 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 01, 2014, 01:10:53 PM
California best, Arizona worst.



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Yeah, buddy. :)
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: mongers on August 01, 2014, 02:34:51 PM
Belgium and of course Belgium.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Pedrito on August 01, 2014, 02:36:36 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 01:09:07 PM
Quote from: The Larch on August 01, 2014, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 12:48:27 PMWorst State: Extremadura; like Andalucía (hot, poor and dry) but without the good things of Andalucía (culture, night life and wine).

They do wonders with pork there, though.

I think that's a common trait of Iberian peoples though, nobody beats us at making all sorts of delicious stuff out of pork.
:lmfao:  :sleep:

L.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 01, 2014, 02:42:09 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 01, 2014, 01:11:46 PM
I'm hard pressed to come up with a best state.

I'm going to put my vote in for DC.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: LaCroix on August 01, 2014, 02:44:52 PM
best:  :Canuck:
worst: mississippi
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: The Larch on August 01, 2014, 02:46:59 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 01:21:25 PM
Quote from: The Larch on August 01, 2014, 01:12:02 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 01:09:07 PM
Quote from: The Larch on August 01, 2014, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 12:48:27 PMWorst State: Extremadura; like Andalucía (hot, poor and dry) but without the good things of Andalucía (culture, night life and wine).

They do wonders with pork there, though.

I think that's a common trait of Iberian peoples though, nobody beats us at making all sorts of delicious stuff out of pork.

And in Extremadura they excel at that, so automatically they can't be the worst. Castilla la Mancha, though...

I admit it was a close call between Extremadura and La Mancha, but I love Toledo; few things in life not involving sex beat getting terminally drunk among those medieval walls.

Have you tried getting terminally drunk in Cáceres?
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 01, 2014, 02:48:23 PM
I'd like to hear a little more about annoying Catalans.  Annoying how?
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 02:52:27 PM
Quote from: The Larch on August 01, 2014, 02:46:59 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 01:21:25 PM
Quote from: The Larch on August 01, 2014, 01:12:02 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 01:09:07 PM
Quote from: The Larch on August 01, 2014, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 12:48:27 PMWorst State: Extremadura; like Andalucía (hot, poor and dry) but without the good things of Andalucía (culture, night life and wine).

They do wonders with pork there, though.

I think that's a common trait of Iberian peoples though, nobody beats us at making all sorts of delicious stuff out of pork.

And in Extremadura they excel at that, so automatically they can't be the worst. Castilla la Mancha, though...

I admit it was a close call between Extremadura and La Mancha, but I love Toledo; few things in life not involving sex beat getting terminally drunk among those medieval walls.

Have you tried getting terminally drunk in Cáceres?

No, I've only been in Mérida. Wasn't impressed by the night life.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: The Larch on August 01, 2014, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 01, 2014, 02:48:23 PM
I'd like to hear a little more about annoying Catalans.  Annoying how?

Rich, cheap and they secretly think they're better than you. That's the stereotype.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: The Larch on August 01, 2014, 02:53:56 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 02:52:27 PM
Quote from: The Larch on August 01, 2014, 02:46:59 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 01:21:25 PM
Quote from: The Larch on August 01, 2014, 01:12:02 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 01:09:07 PM
Quote from: The Larch on August 01, 2014, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 12:48:27 PMWorst State: Extremadura; like Andalucía (hot, poor and dry) but without the good things of Andalucía (culture, night life and wine).

They do wonders with pork there, though.

I think that's a common trait of Iberian peoples though, nobody beats us at making all sorts of delicious stuff out of pork.

And in Extremadura they excel at that, so automatically they can't be the worst. Castilla la Mancha, though...

I admit it was a close call between Extremadura and La Mancha, but I love Toledo; few things in life not involving sex beat getting terminally drunk among those medieval walls.

Have you tried getting terminally drunk in Cáceres?

No, I've only been in Mérida. Wasn't impressed by the night life.

I was there as a kid and my only memory is the inhumanly atrocious summer heat.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 02:54:48 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 01, 2014, 02:48:23 PM
I'd like to hear a little more about annoying Catalans.  Annoying how?

I guess in the same way Canadians might find Québécois bitchy and annoying.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: derspiess on August 01, 2014, 02:57:04 PM
Best: Either Colorado or Florida

Worst: New Jersey
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: LaCroix on August 01, 2014, 02:59:41 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 02:54:48 PMI guess in the same way Canadians might find Québécois bitchy and annoying.

like manitobans to north dakotans :yes:
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Viking on August 01, 2014, 03:25:53 PM
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Preved Medved, the inferior 49 can suck California cock.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: derspiess on August 01, 2014, 04:05:41 PM
California has shitty taxes and people there are flakes.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Valmy on August 01, 2014, 04:15:06 PM
It is a land of fruits and nuts.

And it has beaches that are freezing cold in July in Northern California.  Brrrrr
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 01, 2014, 04:18:25 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 01, 2014, 04:05:41 PM
California has shitty taxes and people there are flakes.

Don't confuse LA and SF with the rest of California. Most of it is your kind of people.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 01, 2014, 04:21:48 PM
Greatest state- Georgia.
Worst state- New Mexico. Though the western half of Texas is probably worse. Actually, the Dakotas are probably even worse than that but I've never been there.

Mississippi may be pretty dingy and poor, but at least it's green.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 01, 2014, 04:32:06 PM
Quote from: The Larch on August 01, 2014, 02:53:09 PM
Rich, cheap and they secretly think they're better than you. That's the stereotype.

You kicked out your Jews so you had to make your own.

My theory about Jewish assimilation in the US is that the turning point came when they realized the importance of tipping.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Barrister on August 01, 2014, 04:41:26 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on August 01, 2014, 02:59:41 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 01, 2014, 02:54:48 PMI guess in the same way Canadians might find Québécois bitchy and annoying.

like manitobans to north dakotans :yes:

:ultra:

You realize that I'm about the only other person on this forum who ever sticks up for North Dakota, right?

Well see if I ever do it again.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: derspiess on August 01, 2014, 04:45:22 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 01, 2014, 04:21:48 PM
Worst state- New Mexico. Though the western half of Texas is probably worse. Actually, the Dakotas are probably even worse than that but I've never been there.

I liked New Mexico each time I visited.  Local food is good (if you like green chilis, which I do).  Landscape is pretty cool and I lucked out with the weather being pleasant.  People get a little weird/creepy out in the small towns but they mind their own business.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: garbon on August 01, 2014, 04:49:43 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 01, 2014, 04:45:22 PM
People get a little weird/creepy out in the small towns

Well they are people in small towns. :unsure:
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: derspiess on August 01, 2014, 04:56:27 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 01, 2014, 04:49:43 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 01, 2014, 04:45:22 PM
People get a little weird/creepy out in the small towns

Well they are people in small towns. :unsure:

Yeah, but I'm talking really weird people in really remote small towns.  I was advised by the president at the bank I was visiting not to try to engage in small talk with the people in this one town and that it would probably be best to avoid eye contact.  Apparently most of them lived on ranches and really, really took their privacy seriously.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: LaCroix on August 01, 2014, 05:24:22 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 01, 2014, 04:41:26 PM:ultra:

You realize that I'm about the only other person on this forum who ever sticks up for North Dakota, right?

Well see if I ever do it again.

you started it, northerner.  :mad:

but seriously, lots of people in the service industry down here aren't the biggest fans of manitobans. the hockey groups who come through and stay at hotels, for example, tend to be annoying assholes. also, the biggest complainers in my class are the manitobans.  :P
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Razgovory on August 01, 2014, 06:58:13 PM
Quote from: DGuller on August 01, 2014, 12:40:11 PM
In my experience:

Greatest State:  New Jersey
Worst State:  New York

New York: worse then the Soviet Union
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Ideologue on August 01, 2014, 07:15:57 PM
True.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Grinning_Colossus on August 01, 2014, 07:16:03 PM
Greatest State: Georgia
Worst State: Kyrgyzstan
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Ideologue on August 01, 2014, 07:16:43 PM
Greatest state: United Nations.
Worst state: Siegebreaker "Republic."
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 01, 2014, 07:17:21 PM
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on August 01, 2014, 07:16:03 PM
Worst State: Kyrgyzstan

You should tell the people on Sporcle that.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: garbon on August 01, 2014, 10:48:34 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on August 01, 2014, 07:16:43 PM
Greatest state: United Nations.
Worst state: Siegebreaker "Republic."

Is there anything "great" about the UN? :unsure:

I mean I guess their New York hotel is okay.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Ideologue on August 01, 2014, 11:00:47 PM
The black helicopters they send to punish the guilty.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: garbon on August 01, 2014, 11:06:25 PM
So...nada?
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Barrister on August 02, 2014, 01:02:39 AM
Quote from: LaCroix on August 01, 2014, 05:24:22 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 01, 2014, 04:41:26 PM:ultra:

You realize that I'm about the only other person on this forum who ever sticks up for North Dakota, right?

Well see if I ever do it again.

you started it, northerner.  :mad:

but seriously, lots of people in the service industry down here aren't the biggest fans of manitobans. the hockey groups who come through and stay at hotels, for example, tend to be annoying assholes. also, the biggest complainers in my class are the manitobans.  :P

So you're going to bitch about the only people who come to North Dakota voluntarily and of their own free will?  Heaven forbid some damn Manitobans come to your state to do some cross-border shopping!

I won't defend Manitobans who go to UND Law though.  Clearly they weren't smart enough to get admitted to Robson Hall (the U of Manitoba law school).   :)
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Josquius on August 02, 2014, 01:15:12 AM
Best- Netherlands
Worst- Romania
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 02, 2014, 01:57:41 AM
Quote from: Tyr on August 02, 2014, 01:15:12 AM
Best- Netherlands
Worst- Romania

First time in my life I've ever agreed with an utterance by the Squeeze.  :cheers:
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Caliga on August 02, 2014, 06:47:08 AM
I don't think I can name one best and one worst, but here are a few states that I really like/dislike in each category:

Best: California, Florida, Texas, Georgia, New Mexico

Worst: Massachusetts, Wisconsin, Indiana

I might be picking on Wisconsin unfairly, but I've only ever been to Milwaukee, so if you know anything about Milwaukee you'll forgive me.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: garbon on August 02, 2014, 06:48:18 AM
I'm really not one to defend MA, but putting it in the worst category?
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Caliga on August 02, 2014, 06:49:15 AM
Quote from: Tyr on August 02, 2014, 01:15:12 AM
Best- Netherlands
Worst- Romania
:hmm:

While I've not been to Romania, I've interacted with a lot of Romanians via my work and found the following to be true:

1.  Romanians are very friendly
2.  It is apparently illegal for Romanian chicks to be ugly

That said, my only experience with Romanians in London was that they were all beggars so that might explain Tyr's position.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Caliga on August 02, 2014, 06:49:38 AM
Quote from: garbon on August 02, 2014, 06:48:18 AM
I'm really not one to defend MA, but putting it in the worst category?
Part of my schtick.  I do like the Capes.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: The Brain on August 02, 2014, 06:58:00 AM
Quote from: Caliga on August 02, 2014, 06:49:15 AM
Quote from: Tyr on August 02, 2014, 01:15:12 AM
Best- Netherlands
Worst- Romania
:hmm:

While I've not been to Romania, I've interacted with a lot of Romanians via my work and found the following to be true:

1.  Romanians are very friendly
2.  It is apparently illegal for Romanian chicks to be ugly

That said, my only experience with Romanians in London was that they were all beggars so that might explain Tyr's position.

Romanians try to interact with me every day I'm in Stockholm. If begging is considered friendly then they are incredibly friendly. They are definitely incredibly ugly though.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Caliga on August 02, 2014, 07:00:48 AM
The Romanians I interact with are either in Cluj or Southern California.  Maybe they exile the ugly ones to Western Europe? :(
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Syt on August 02, 2014, 07:10:07 AM
I can offer you one guy with a hunchback, a girl (I think) with a backwards, twisted knee, a few guys without lower body, and a few other amputees.

And there's the middle aged ladies who go singing/wailing through the subway, holding in front of them what's supposedly their husband lying in the coffin. He must have had about half a dozen wives. They're not "traditionally hot", either.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Caliga on August 02, 2014, 07:16:37 AM
You sure those ain't gypsies?
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Syt on August 02, 2014, 07:18:37 AM
Yes, Romanians.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Syt on August 02, 2014, 07:19:18 AM
(Disclaimer: I've met a bunch of Romanians through my jobs, from Bucharest and Cluj, and they're largely normal people.)
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: LaCroix on August 02, 2014, 11:53:57 AM
Quote from: Barrister on August 02, 2014, 01:02:39 AMSo you're going to bitch about the only people who come to North Dakota voluntarily and of their own free will?  Heaven forbid some damn Manitobans come to your state to do some cross-border shopping!

I won't defend Manitobans who go to UND Law though.  Clearly they weren't smart enough to get admitted to Robson Hall (the U of Manitoba law school).   :)

of course. we're north dakotans - simple folk who wish to only toil in the dirt. :Canuck:

mind you, i don't personally care about the canucks.

and, yeah, that's exactly the case for all but one in my class. they come expecting to do well and transfer out, then (in most cases) end up with average grades forcing them to stay. i think #1 in the 2015 class is a canuck, though!
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Josquius on August 02, 2014, 12:00:18 PM
Quote from: Caliga on August 02, 2014, 06:49:15 AM
Quote from: Tyr on August 02, 2014, 01:15:12 AM
Best- Netherlands
Worst- Romania
:hmm:

While I've not been to Romania, I've interacted with a lot of Romanians via my work and found the following to be true:

1.  Romanians are very friendly
2.  It is apparently illegal for Romanian chicks to be ugly

That said, my only experience with Romanians in London was that they were all beggars so that might explain Tyr's position.
When I've met Romanians they've been pretty nice too.  Pretty middling on hotness, I went out with one for a bit. I think the whole eastern European hotness thing doesn't stretch to the Balkans.
Their country is a bit shit though.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Norgy on August 02, 2014, 01:21:11 PM
Quote from: Tyr on August 02, 2014, 12:00:18 PM

I think the whole eastern European hotness thing doesn't stretch to the Balkans.


The Balkans do include the former Yugoslavia, and Croatian girls were insanely hot, but seemed to hit babuschkahood quite early. Not a place for making MILF porn, I think. :unsure:
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: celedhring on August 02, 2014, 01:43:11 PM
Quote from: Tyr on August 02, 2014, 12:00:18 PM
I think the whole eastern European hotness thing doesn't stretch to the Balkans.

Ridiculous claim.

Larchie needs to get on the case.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Norgy on August 02, 2014, 01:57:41 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 02, 2014, 01:43:11 PM
Quote from: Tyr on August 02, 2014, 12:00:18 PM
I think the whole eastern European hotness thing doesn't stretch to the Balkans.

Ridiculous claim.

Larchie needs to get on the case.

Well there is a tendency towards bleach blondeness in certain countries.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 02, 2014, 03:59:58 PM
Quote from: Norgy on August 02, 2014, 01:21:11 PM
Quote from: Tyr on August 02, 2014, 12:00:18 PM

I think the whole eastern European hotness thing doesn't stretch to the Balkans.


The Balkans do include the former Yugoslavia, and Croatian girls were insanely hot, but seemed to hit babuschkahood quite early. Not a place for making MILF porn, I think. :unsure:

The hot ones didn't survive all the rape camps in the early '90s.  A generation of ass: lost.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Queequeg on August 02, 2014, 04:35:35 PM
Best: Virginia and NC.  Southern food and politeness, incredibly green, very close to DC, Baltimore, not that far from NYC.
Worst: Arizona.  My God.  I'm ashamed to live in a country that hosts Phoenix. 
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 02, 2014, 04:37:44 PM
Virginia?  Suburban Hell to the north, Redneckistan everywhere else.  Barf.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: garbon on August 02, 2014, 05:01:10 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 02, 2014, 04:37:44 PM
Virginia?  Suburban Hell to the north, Redneckistan everywhere else.  Barf.

Aren't you a suburban girl?
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: The Brain on August 02, 2014, 05:13:45 PM
Quote from: Caliga on August 02, 2014, 07:16:37 AM
You sure those ain't gypsies?

:huh:
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 02, 2014, 05:44:49 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 02, 2014, 05:01:10 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 02, 2014, 04:37:44 PM
Virginia?  Suburban Hell to the north, Redneckistan everywhere else.  Barf.

Aren't you a suburban girl?

Yes, and it's Hell, as all Suburban Hells are.  Any other cunty questions?
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: garbon on August 02, 2014, 05:49:39 PM
I think that might just be the label you give to any question I have. :P
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: The Larch on August 02, 2014, 07:01:45 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 02, 2014, 01:43:11 PM
Quote from: Tyr on August 02, 2014, 12:00:18 PM
I think the whole eastern European hotness thing doesn't stretch to the Balkans.

Ridiculous claim.

Larchie needs to get on the case.

Tyr obviously doesn't know what he is talking about.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 02, 2014, 07:36:35 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 02, 2014, 05:49:39 PM
I think that might just be the label you give to any question I have. :P

You just do it so well.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 02, 2014, 07:48:23 PM
Quote from: The Larch on August 02, 2014, 07:01:45 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 02, 2014, 01:43:11 PM
Quote from: Tyr on August 02, 2014, 12:00:18 PM
I think the whole eastern European hotness thing doesn't stretch to the Balkans.

Ridiculous claim.

Larchie needs to get on the case.

Tyr obviously doesn't know what he is talking about.

I think we're gonna need some evidence to evaluate your claims.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: The Larch on August 03, 2014, 10:41:02 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 02, 2014, 07:48:23 PM
Quote from: The Larch on August 02, 2014, 07:01:45 PM
Quote from: celedhring on August 02, 2014, 01:43:11 PM
Quote from: Tyr on August 02, 2014, 12:00:18 PM
I think the whole eastern European hotness thing doesn't stretch to the Balkans.

Ridiculous claim.

Larchie needs to get on the case.

Tyr obviously doesn't know what he is talking about.

I think we're gonna need some evidence to evaluate your claims.

Personal observations. In my experience girls from the former Yugoslavia are sizzling hot.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Josquius on August 03, 2014, 10:52:41 AM
The Hungarians and Czechs are the dominators of the porno world and I've never met an ugly, female Estonian (the other Baltics I've met less but are generally pretty OK). And of course Ukrainians are famously good looking.
Balkan people I've met....I have met some pretty damn hot Yugoslavians but also some pretty damn ugly ones. Romanians ranged from somewhat cute through to ugly, the average I'd place at merely respectable, and Bulgarians I've met were universally not particularly attractive.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: alfred russel on August 03, 2014, 11:12:36 AM
Is Romania really considered balkan?
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: The Larch on August 03, 2014, 11:31:07 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on August 03, 2014, 11:12:36 AM
Is Romania really considered balkan?

The precise term for Former Yugoslavia + Albania is Western Balkans, so it'd make sense if Romania + Bulgaria are Eastern Balkans. Greece is just hanging down. :p
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Syt on August 03, 2014, 11:41:17 AM
Wiki doesn't include it in their Balkans article, and in the Romania article it says it's located North of the Balkan Peninsula.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: alfred russel on August 03, 2014, 11:44:01 AM
Quote from: The Larch on August 03, 2014, 11:31:07 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on August 03, 2014, 11:12:36 AM
Is Romania really considered balkan?

The precise term for Former Yugoslavia + Albania is Western Balkans, so it'd make sense if Romania + Bulgaria are Eastern Balkans. Greece is just hanging down. :p

Greece is definitely balkan, and I can't accept any alternative. It is just too much fun to refer to them as balkan when i'm talking to greeks.  :P
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Grinning_Colossus on August 03, 2014, 12:04:57 PM
The most attractive woman I ever met was Bosnian -- a Serb-Bosniak half-caste no less, so perhaps it was the hybrid vigor.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Ideologue on August 03, 2014, 12:14:53 PM
The most attractive woman I ever met was half-Filipina, half-white. :)

But to give the Slavs their due, Abigaile Johnson, Czech, is perhaps our most beautiful adult actress, after--or maybe ahead of--Sasha Grey.  Just ridiculously pretty.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 03, 2014, 01:23:19 PM
Hottest #1 and #2 of all time that I ever met personally were both Iranian.  The Shah's monied cronies knew how to breed well and raise some fine goddamn daughters.   Allah Ackwoof.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Norgy on August 03, 2014, 01:32:53 PM
Quote from: The Larch on August 03, 2014, 11:31:07 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on August 03, 2014, 11:12:36 AM
Is Romania really considered balkan?

The precise term for Former Yugoslavia + Albania is Western Balkans, so it'd make sense if Romania + Bulgaria are Eastern Balkans. Greece is just hanging down. :p

Greece; the limp dick of the Balkans. New country motto.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Maladict on August 04, 2014, 04:08:50 AM
Quote from: Caliga on August 02, 2014, 06:49:15 AM

While I've not been to Romania, I've interacted with a lot of Romanians via my work and found the following to be true:

1.  Romanians are very friendly
2.  It is apparently illegal for Romanian chicks to be ugly

I've been to Romania and I'm afraid I have to take issue with your second claim.  :(
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Maladict on August 04, 2014, 04:12:37 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on August 03, 2014, 11:44:01 AM

Greece is definitely balkan, and I can't accept any alternative. It is just too much fun to refer to them as balkan when i'm talking to greeks.  :P

Yes it is. :D
Just like casually mentioning you like their Turkish coffee.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: KRonn on August 04, 2014, 09:00:38 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 01, 2014, 01:11:46 PM
Of the states I've visited Mississippi was the dingiest and most run down looking.  Massachusetts (at least Boston metro) has the nastiest people and the shittiest weather.

I'm hard pressed to come up with a best state.

Our weather is not the worst!   :mad:

;)

Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Valmy on August 04, 2014, 09:05:31 AM
I remember when I was in Boston and we were at a crowded bar and one woman said 'hey my friends will not be here for awhile if you want to sit here with me instead of standing there'.  I said 'hey thanks you Bostonians aren't so bad' and she said 'oh no Bostonians are assholes I am from Alabama'  :lol:
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: KRonn on August 04, 2014, 09:16:28 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 04, 2014, 09:05:31 AM
I remember when I was in Boston and we were at a crowded bar and one woman said 'hey my friends will not be here for awhile if you want to sit here with me instead of standing there'.  I said 'hey thanks you Bostonians aren't so bad' and she said 'oh no Bostonians are assholes I am from Alabama'  :lol:

Stay out of my town!   :mad:   See, we aren't so bad.   :P
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Syt on August 04, 2014, 09:18:06 AM
On the Airzona hate:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/yezminvillarreal/things-you-only-see-in-arizona

Mmmmyeah .... no.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: PDH on August 04, 2014, 09:51:50 AM
California is the greatest state, followed closely by Wyoming.  The worst state is California followed closely by Wyoming.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: celedhring on August 04, 2014, 10:24:31 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 03, 2014, 01:23:19 PM
Hottest #1 and #2 of all time that I ever met personally were both Iranian.  The Shah's monied cronies knew how to breed well and raise some fine goddamn daughters.   Allah Ackwoof.

I agree with that, dunno what kind of VISA restrictions you had in place for Iranians back then, but the ones that you allowed in the US sired some mighty fine female specimens. It's ridiculous.

Personally the hottest woman I've ever met was Zoroastrian; she told me that she could only marry another Zoroastrian, that you couldn't convert into it (damn!!!) and thus she only had 120 eligible suitors of suitable age in the whole US.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Valmy on August 04, 2014, 10:36:41 AM
You cannot convert?  Damn.  Sorry Spellus.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Queequeg on August 04, 2014, 10:46:16 AM
I think you can but it's a massively complicated process.


And pics.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: LaCroix on August 04, 2014, 07:24:37 PM
http://www.mnn.com/lifestyle/eco-tourism/stories/hawaiis-not-the-happiest-anymore-guess-which-state-is-on-top

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.undnews.com%2FAero%2Fegrand.jpg&hash=993bfe097f6f9bb8f05c1ea6a90b0fe72bbafda9)

:yeah:
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 04, 2014, 07:32:21 PM
Quote from: Syt on August 04, 2014, 09:18:06 AM
On the Airzona hate:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/yezminvillarreal/things-you-only-see-in-arizona

Mmmmyeah .... no.

That cactus mascot was pretty fetch.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: DontSayBanana on August 04, 2014, 08:20:35 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 04, 2014, 07:32:21 PM
That cactus mascot was pretty fetch.

And all the ladies say I'm pretty fly
For a cacti
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Ideologue on August 05, 2014, 01:45:43 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on August 04, 2014, 10:46:16 AM
I think you can but it's a massively complicated process.


And pics.

You know who I'm pretty sure converted without serious issues?  Tens of thousands of Bronze Age Iranians.  Sounds like some bullshit to me.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: celedhring on August 05, 2014, 02:51:06 AM
That's what she told me; at least I'll concede it was a more elegant way of rebuking my advances than "get lost fat bastard".  :Embarrass:
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Ideologue on August 05, 2014, 02:55:47 AM
Nah, it's probably correct.  Zoroastrianism is like hipster Judaism.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 05, 2014, 07:59:37 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on August 04, 2014, 08:20:35 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 04, 2014, 07:32:21 PM
That cactus mascot was pretty fetch.

And all the ladies say I'm pretty fly
For a cacti


That was stupid good.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: MadImmortalMan on August 06, 2014, 12:52:29 AM
I don't know why anyone likes Florida. Probably because I don't share their obsession with the ocean.

As for the Yugoslav Balkans--I think I mentioned once after visiting both Slovenia and Austria that Slovenian girls were mostly too good for the dudes they were with, and the Austrian guys were mostly too good for their girls. Some sort of trade would be in order.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Scipio on August 06, 2014, 04:24:56 AM
Illinois is the worst US state, IMHO; Alabama and Indiana tie for close seconds.

Best state is probably Minnesota or Wisconsin, although I do like Maine.

Parts of Mississippi are great, but parts of Mississippi are the vilest shithole on the planet.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: sbr on August 06, 2014, 08:08:14 AM
Best:  Welfare State :yeah:
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Valmy on August 06, 2014, 12:14:25 PM
Quote from: sbr on August 06, 2014, 08:08:14 AM
Best:  Welfare State :yeah:

Worst: State of Nature?
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: sbr on August 06, 2014, 12:21:54 PM
For most of us here probably the State of Undress.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: crazy canuck on August 06, 2014, 12:24:57 PM
Its hard for me to choose between solid and liquid.  While I enjoy a great steak I also enjoy a great wine to go with that great steak. 
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Razgovory on August 06, 2014, 01:17:18 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on August 04, 2014, 10:46:16 AM
I think you can but it's a massively complicated process.


And pics.

Lots of forms to fill out.  In triplicate and cuneiform.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 06, 2014, 05:23:26 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 06, 2014, 12:24:57 PM
Its hard for me to choose between solid and liquid.  While I enjoy a great steak I also enjoy a great wine to go with that great steak.

Oxygen is pretty awesome too.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: crazy canuck on August 06, 2014, 05:27:03 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 06, 2014, 05:23:26 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 06, 2014, 12:24:57 PM
Its hard for me to choose between solid and liquid.  While I enjoy a great steak I also enjoy a great wine to go with that great steak.

Oxygen is pretty awesome too.

So is the air we breathe.  I guess there is no greatest state.  They are all awesome. Although the gaseous state here in Vancouver is much better than it is in LA.  :)
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: MadImmortalMan on August 06, 2014, 06:56:44 PM
Are you sure? Better polluted than humid. Hong Kong, OTOH, is just screwed.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Capetan Mihali on August 06, 2014, 07:43:30 PM
Worst: Connecticut.

Best: New Jersey.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: frunk on August 06, 2014, 08:01:11 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on August 06, 2014, 07:43:30 PM
Worst: Connecticut.

Woohoo, somebody cares.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: DGuller on August 06, 2014, 08:10:45 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on August 06, 2014, 07:43:30 PM
Worst: Connecticut.

Best: New Jersey.
:hug:
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 06, 2014, 08:13:46 PM
Was just about to ask how much you paid him to say that.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: MadImmortalMan on August 06, 2014, 08:15:42 PM
Translation: I know nothing about the world outside the tri-state area.  :lol:
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: DGuller on August 06, 2014, 09:04:21 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 06, 2014, 08:15:42 PM
Translation: I know nothing about the world outside the tri-state area.  :lol:
I know enough about it to stay out of it.  :mad:
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 06, 2014, 09:07:12 PM
Be pretty hard for him to drive from NJ to Oregon on one tank.  :P
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: alfred russel on August 06, 2014, 09:16:57 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 06, 2014, 08:15:42 PM
Translation: I know nothing about the world outside the tri-state area.  :lol:

He has also spent time in Ukraine.

DGuller's world view may be:
New York - like the New York he used to live in.
New Jersey - like the New Jersey he lives in.
Rest of the World - Ukraine.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 06, 2014, 09:19:19 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on August 06, 2014, 07:43:30 PM
Worst: Connecticut.

Best: New Jersey.

We're talking states, not I-95 rest stops.  BEST SBARRO'S EVAH
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: DGuller on August 06, 2014, 09:21:17 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 06, 2014, 09:07:12 PM
Be pretty hard for him to drive from NJ to Oregon on one tank.  :P
:mad: I'm sure I would figure something out eventually.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: crazy canuck on August 07, 2014, 11:53:21 AM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 06, 2014, 06:56:44 PM
Are you sure? Better polluted than humid. Hong Kong, OTOH, is just screwed.

Better polluted?  Certainly not from my perspective.  I have been in LA on days I could barely breath.  And Vancouver isnt exactly humid  ;)
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: The Minsky Moment on August 07, 2014, 12:50:39 PM
Connecticut and New Jersey are quite alike. 
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: DGuller on August 07, 2014, 01:12:59 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 07, 2014, 12:50:39 PM
Connecticut and New Jersey are quite alike.
I can think of one very important difference.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: The Minsky Moment on August 07, 2014, 01:47:03 PM
Quote from: DGuller on August 07, 2014, 01:12:59 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 07, 2014, 12:50:39 PM
Connecticut and New Jersey are quite alike.
I can think of one very important difference.

2 I think:
property tax rates and scale reading for the governor.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: derspiess on August 07, 2014, 01:53:10 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 07, 2014, 01:47:03 PM
property tax rates and scale reading for the governor.

OMG FAT SHAMER
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Barrister on August 07, 2014, 01:55:20 PM
Quote from: DGuller on August 07, 2014, 01:12:59 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 07, 2014, 12:50:39 PM
Connecticut and New Jersey are quite alike.
I can think of one very important difference.

Only one state has an NHL team any longer. :(
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Caliga on August 08, 2014, 05:26:37 AM
Quote from: DGuller on August 07, 2014, 01:12:59 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 07, 2014, 12:50:39 PM
Connecticut and New Jersey are quite alike.
I can think of one very important difference.
New Jersey is warmer. :)
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: DontSayBanana on August 08, 2014, 11:27:09 PM
Quote from: Caliga on August 08, 2014, 05:26:37 AM
New Jersey is warmer. :)

To some of us, that's not a net positive... pretty miserable and hibernating in the AC right now, honestly.  Can't wait for October, when it finally starts noticeably cooling off.
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Caliga on August 09, 2014, 06:34:20 PM
Ok fine.

There are more Wawas in New Jersey. :cool:
Title: Re: What is the Greatest State / Worst State
Post by: Siege on August 09, 2014, 10:00:19 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on August 01, 2014, 12:30:37 PM
My point of view:

Greatest State: California (taxes, cost of living, etc. may suck, but the place is gorgeous with great weather and great cities)

Worst State: Texas (oppressive in summers, society structured around indoor airconditioned spaces)

Best state: Israel (gorgeous rough terrain on the north, Haifa area, and on the south, the Negev, Beershevah and Eilat areas)

Worst state: Israel (Tel Aviv and Yerushalayim kind of suck. Forget about having a nice lawn. Israeli people can't drive. Can't wait for google's self-drived cars)