2016 elections - because it's never too early

[The Minsky Moment]

Any discussion of media's impact on politics has to take into account radio. 
The New York Times has a circulation about 600,000.    CNN has a primetime audience in the range of 750,000; MSNBC 1 million.
Fox News, which leans right, has a larger primetime audience than CNN and MSNBC combined, over 2 million.

But all of this is peanuts compared to talk radio, which leans very heavily conservative.  Limbaugh and Hannity each reach audiences in excess of 10 million.  The total conservative talk radio audience likely exceeds total print newspaper circulation.  And the impact is far greater.  Talk radio hosts are not encumbered by meaningful editorial control or rules and standards of objectivity adhered to by most papers.  And radio is a particularly powerful medium because people tend to listen in their cars when they have nothing else to do, and thus it commands their attention.  As opposed to just having the TV on while doing other stuff.  Or a newpaper where virtually no one actually reads the whole thing.

[alfred russel]

And radio is a particularly powerful medium because people tend to listen in their cars when they have nothing else to do, and thus it commands their attention. 

Besides driving of course.

While possibly eating, trying to keep the kids in the backseat from fighting, and putting on makeup.

[Savonarola]

While it's hard to make an apple to apples comparison since the numbers are reported differently; radio seems to be minor as compared to internet news.  CNN.com (the largest on line news source in the United States) had over 60 million unique viewers in January, by June they were over 110 million.

[Valmy]

While it's hard to make an apple to apples comparison since the numbers are reported differently; radio seems to be minor as compared to internet news.  CNN.com (the largest on line news source in the United States) had over 60 million unique viewers in January, by June they were over 110 million.

Oooh I hadn't thought of that.

The MSM lives on!

[The Minsky Moment]

While it's hard to make an apple to apples comparison since the numbers are reported differently; radio seems to be minor as compared to internet news.  CNN.com (the largest on line news source in the United States) had over 60 million unique viewers in January, by June they were over 110 million.

Yes but that includes every single time anyone clicks on a link.  No one is sitting there systematically reading in depth CNN.com.  What's unique about radio is the combination of reach, duration, intensity, and lack of any real meaningful editorial restraint.  It's a potent combination.

[Savonarola]

While it's hard to make an apple to apples comparison since the numbers are reported differently; radio seems to be minor as compared to internet news.  CNN.com (the largest on line news source in the United States) had over 60 million unique viewers in January, by June they were over 110 million.

Yes but that includes every single time anyone clicks on a link.

That's a different metric; CNN had nearly 2 Billion "Views" in June.

[Habbaku]

I think Joan's point is that, despite the large number of unique viewers, some of them are reading articles about cats and nothing else.

[Savonarola]

I think Joan's point is that, despite the large number of unique viewers, some of them are reading articles about cats and nothing else.

Ah, okay, but by the same token there could be some poor engineer who is forced to listen to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham because that's what AMTRAK linemen insist on.   



Since CNN.com's (and other news sites') rise in readership corresponded with the election cycle I would assume most of the customers were there to follow the campaign news.

[DGuller]

Pretty much all of media devolved to "attacks" and "scandals" because that's what got attention.  Trump got more publicity and attention because he was pretty much a continuous stream of stupid.  The few things that Hillary did wrong got quite a bit of attention.

That's the real bias, bias towards scandals, legitimate or otherwise.  Just as long as you have something to breathlessly drone on about for the next 24 hours.  And based on resulting coverage due to that bias, the media of all stripes was far too unfair to Hillary.

[The Minsky Moment]

Since CNN.com's (and other news sites') rise in readership corresponded with the election cycle I would assume most of the customers were there to follow the campaign news.

Again I doubt people were going to the site and systematically reading the whole coverage.  More like someone gets a link through FB and clicks it, and then skims through a summary news report of some breaking development.  it's categorically different from listening to Limbaugh vent ad nauseum through a half hour commute.

[Valmy]

Ah, okay, but by the same token there could be some poor engineer who is forced to listen to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham because that's what AMTRAK linemen insist on.   

That seems a very counter-productive thing for heavily government subsidized people to be indulging in

[CountDeMoney]

Be sure to wear your little hat, derplorables. 

Trump to launch 'thank you' tour with Thursday rally in Cincinnati
By Annie Karni and Jake Sherman
politico.com
Updated 11/29/16 10:20 AM EST

Donald Trump's presidential transition is looking more and more like Donald Trump's campaign — now complete with a massive rally in the Rust Belt.

The president-elect has been firing off daily broadsides on Twitter just as he did as a candidate -- attacking CNN, making false accusations about widespread voter fraud, and launching veiled attacks at his old nemesis Hillary Clinton, for participating in a recount.

Now, the president-elect is set to return to the heart of a state that helped deliver him his unexpected victory earlier this month. On Thursday evening, Trump will kick off a "thank you" tour in Ohio, with a massive rally at the U.S. Bank Arena in Cincinnati, according to a source familiar with the planning.

Trump has said he wants to get back to the trail and revisit the states he won, on a victory tour where he can re-energize the base of white, working class voters who put him in the White House. It's also where Trump still feels most comfortable.

Privately, insiders said, Trump is still in postmortem mode, rehashing with friends his unexpected victory, even as his day to day is consumed with looking forward. He's not alone: His top advisers still flash iPhone videos from their biggest rallies, with "everyone was wrong but us" pride.

But the victory tour comes as Trump has yet to settle on some main Cabinet positions -- most glaringly, secretary of state, which has become a proxy war for the rival factions of his incoming administration.

And it offers Trump -- a master of reading a crowd, who has revealed a more moderated version of himself in meetings with the New York Times and with President Barack Obama -- the dangerous possibility of returning to some of his most divisive and fiery rhetoric on the trail, with his base.

The Trump transition team has yet to provide details on the full scope of Trump's post-election tour, but George Gigicos, the director the campaign's advance team, told reporters on Nov. 17 that the president-elect would be traveling "obviously to the states that we won and the swing states we flipped over."

BLUE STATES CAN SUCK IT

[Ed Anger]

He will crown himself emperor in Cincinnati.

[derspiess]

I'm frickin' going.

[Phillip V]

I'm frickin' going.

Post a selfie.