2016 elections - because it's never too early

Started by merithyn, May 09, 2013, 07:37:45 AM

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Admiral Yi

Fuck sakes Timmy, it's on this fucking page.  With a correctly spelled name.

derspiess

Quote from: alfred russel on September 15, 2016, 10:17:33 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 15, 2016, 08:16:45 PM

Even weirder is the 2% of Hillary primary voters who say they're going to vote Donald.  :wacko:

There could be four groups:

1) Republican leaning voters that are registered democrats in closed primary states
2) Voters who wanted to stop the socialist (presumably also republican leaning)
3) Republican leaning voters who thought hillary was the weaker candidate (especially as the republican race effectively ended before the democratic one)
4) People trolling the poll

Or 5) People who vote but don't think about it too much and are also wishy-washy
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Martinus

#14537
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 15, 2016, 03:56:38 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 15, 2016, 12:54:24 PM
Most interesting demographic I've seen in this race is married women vs. unmarried women.  Unmarried women are overwhelmingly Hillary, while Trump has and edge with married women.

Seems pretty predictable; what's more surprising is how Clinton is up with college-educated white males--a demographic the GOP has held on to since the 1950s.

Cucks.

Edit: Oh!

I mean, college educated white men used to look like this:



Now they look like this:



Not sure it's an improvement.

Martinus

Quote from: Barrister on September 15, 2016, 04:24:56 PM
Apparently Donald Trump wants to appoint Peter Thiel to the Supreme Court if he wins. :lol: :x

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-peter-thiel-supreme-court_us_57d80d57e4b09d7a687f9b03

Makes sense though - if he really wants to rewrite libel laws there's at least one vote in his favour...

The first openly gay Supreme Court judge. People who would oppose the candidacy are homophobes, just as the people who opposed Obama were racists and people who oppose Hillary are mysogines. :contract:

Martinus


garbon

To kickoff run up to the debate, Trump points out that CNN is the clinton new network and Anderson Cooper can't be trusted to be a fair moderator.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Martinus

Quote from: garbon on September 16, 2016, 02:07:47 AM
To kickoff run up to the debate, Trump points out that CNN is the clinton new network and Anderson Cooper can't be trusted to be a fair moderator.

He has a point.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Martinus on September 16, 2016, 12:17:23 AM
I mean, college educated white men used to look like this:

Yeah, but all those guys are dead now, or close to it.

The one benefit of going to college is being able to recognize exactly how batshit crazy Trump actually is. When you're a knuckledragger from Dumbfuckistan, you really do think Mexicans should to go back to Africa.

garbon

Quote from: Martinus on September 16, 2016, 12:17:23 AM
I mean, college educated white men used to look like this:



Ah you mean when they were all racist and sexist? What a golden age!
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Martinus

Quote from: garbon on September 16, 2016, 06:11:04 AM
Quote from: Martinus on September 16, 2016, 12:17:23 AM
I mean, college educated white men used to look like this:



Ah you mean when they were all racist and sexist? What a golden age!

So were ancient Romans and Greeks. Yet we still enjoy the fruit of their labour. I doubt today's precious sensitive little snowflakes would be able to match their achievements.

Martinus

I actually like how "racist and sexist" has become a sort of universal condemnation mantra, putting someone beyond the pale. In the long run, it's almost inconsequential - like whether someone has bad breath or is tone deaf. What matters is whether they are hard working and leave something lasting behind them, not whether they used proper gender pronouns.

garbon

Quote from: Martinus on September 16, 2016, 06:51:32 AM
I actually like how "racist and sexist" has become a sort of universal condemnation mantra, putting someone beyond the pale. In the long run, it's almost inconsequential - like whether someone has bad breath or is tone deaf. What matters is whether they are hard working and leave something lasting behind them, not whether they used proper gender pronouns.

It isn't inconsequential at all. Well not for someone who is a woman or for someone who isn't white. :mellow:

Of course, you know that I'm not talking about proper gender pronouns.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Quote from: Martinus on September 16, 2016, 06:49:56 AM
So were ancient Romans and Greeks. Yet we still enjoy the fruit of their labour. I doubt today's precious sensitive little snowflakes would be able to match their achievements.

And I'd very much dislike if there were a group of people about now acting like ancient Romans/Greeks and/or lamenting that people don't act like those ancient peoples.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

#14548
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/16/donald-trump-campaign-admits-barack-obama-was-born-in-us

QuoteDonald Trump silent as campaign acknowledges Obama born in the US

Donald Trump's campaign has acknowledged that Barack Obama was born in the United States, though the Republican candidate himself refused to say where he believed the US president's birthplace was.

In an emailed statement from senior communications advisor Jason Miller late on Thursday night, the campaign stated: "Mr Trump believes that President Obama was born in the United States."

It followed an interview with the Washington Post published on Thursday in which the Republican nominee, who has fanned false rumours the US's first black president was not born in the country, said he would not answer when asked if he believed Obama was born in Hawaii.

"I'll answer that question at the right time. I just don't want to answer it yet," he said. Trump also brushed off a recent statement from his campaign manager Kellyanne Conway that Trump "now believed" Obama was born in the US by saying: "It's okay. She's allowed to speak what she thinks."

Trump's campaign has long maintained "only Mr Trump speaks for Mr Trump".

The Trump campaign statement also inaccurately blamed Hillary Clinton for the start of the false rumors about Obama during the 2008 Democratic primary race and took credit for the release of the president's birth certificate.

"In 2011, Mr Trump was finally able to bring this ugly incident to its conclusion by successfully compelling President Obama to release his birth certificate," said Miller. "Mr Trump did a great service to the President and the country by bringing closure to the issue that Hillary Clinton and her team first raised. Inarguably, Donald J. Trump is a closer."


Trump tweeted in 2012 that the birth certificate may been "a fraud" and continued to raise questions about its veracity long afterwards. The false allegations that Obama was born in Kenya were widely considered to be a racist dogwhistle.

Obama was born in Honolulu on 4 August 1961.

In a 2014 interview, Trump's oldest son Donald Jr, praised the New York real estate developer's birtherism as a sign of his father's integrity. "Don't we want politicians to have strong opinions about things that aren't swayed by public opinion," asked the younger Trump.

Earlier in the day, Hillary Clinton was quick to cite Trump's initial refusal to back away from birtherism as evidence that the Republican nominee was fanning the flames of racial division.

Addressing the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute at its annual gala in Washington on Thursday evening, Clinton condemned Trump for continuing to push conspiracy theories surrounding Obama's birthplace.

"He still wouldn't say Hawaii. He still wouldn't say America," the Democratic presidential nominee said.

"This man wants to be our next president? When will he stop this ugliness, this bigotry?"

In her remarks before the gathering of prominent Hispanic leaders, Clinton reiterated her support for comprehensive immigration reform while decrying Trump's rhetoric against immigrants and Muslims alike.

"There's no innuendo or dog whistles anymore," Clinton said of the Republican nominee. "It's all right out there in the open now."

Earlier in the day Trump reiterated his economic vision, pledging to voters that he would "lower your taxes beyond any number you thought possible" at a rally in New Hampshire.

...

edit: Oh apparently he has a statement planned. Why is he wasting time this this side shit?

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/donald-trump-barack-obama-birther-birth-certificate-big-announcement

QuoteTrump to address 'birther' issue Friday

Donald Trump says he will be speaking Friday morning about whether he believes President Obama was born in the United States.

Trump told "Mornings with Maria" that he will address the controversy during a campaign event in Washington."Well, I'm gonna make a big announcement on it today probably during my first speech at my new hotel," Trump said.

Host Maria Bartiromo asked, "The bottom line is this, we know that Obama now, he was born in the United States, right?"

"You watch my statement," Trump responded. "We have to — we have to keep the suspense going, okay?"

Trump made frequent attacks throughout President Obama's term questioning the president's birthplace.

On Thursday, he avoided a question in a Washington Post interview about whether he still questions Obama's birthplace.

"I'll answer that question at the right time," Trump said. "I just don't want to answer it yet."

Hours later, Trump's campaign released a statement attributed to spokesman Jason Miller saying the businessman believes Obama was born in the U.S.

"Mr. Trump believes that President Obama was born in the United States," Miller wrote.

But lawmakers and media commentators have said the statement is not enough and called on the candidate himself to speak publicly about how he feels.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

derspiess

He just needs to acknowledge the fact that Obama was probably born in the US and move on.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall