Breaking news: Margaret Thatcher has died

[Warspite]

I just wonder why "half of them weren't even alive when she was the prime minister" is used against those who celebrate her death, whereas the same can be said about those who venerate her. 

How many 20 year olds are venerating her?

Have you been to a Young Tories meeting recently?

[MadImmortalMan]

David Owen (founder of the SDP) obit: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/margaret-thatcher/9979625/Margaret-Thatcher-they-underrated-her-and-always-paid-the-price.html

Nevertheless she was, after Clement Attlee, easily the best of our post-war prime ministers.

That's...surprising.

[derspiess]

"Guns of Brixton" just came up randomly on my Zune when I did a "play all"

[Martinus]

I just wonder why "half of them weren't even alive when she was the prime minister" is used against those who celebrate her death, whereas the same can be said about those who venerate her. 

Perhaps, but on the other hand drinking beer to celebrate someone dying crosses more taboos than venerating monetarism.

Depends on the crowd, I'd say.

[MadImmortalMan]

Like you need an excuse to drink beer.

[Viking]

I just wonder why "half of them weren't even alive when she was the prime minister" is used against those who celebrate her death, whereas the same can be said about those who venerate her. 

How many 20 year olds are venerating her?

Have you been to a Young Tories meeting recently?

It's easy to venerate the dead and senile if the crazy lefties hate them

[Josephus]

I just wonder why "half of them weren't even alive when she was the prime minister" is used against those who celebrate her death, whereas the same can be said about those who venerate her. 

Good point.

Not only that, but it's been pretty much argued here from the beginning here that Thatcher's legacy remains in modern day Britain and elsewhere today. In other words, the kids today are still feeling the results of her policies, and (rightly or wrongly) feel that they are negatively effected by them.

[The Larch]

Not only miners were affected by her policies.

Definitely.  Are you suggesting that all those people celebrating are descendents of people affected by her policies?

I'm not sugesting anything, I don't know those people, I was just disputing your implied need to be a card-carrying unionized miner or a descendant of one as prerequisite for those attitudes.

[garbon]

I just wonder why "half of them weren't even alive when she was the prime minister" is used against those who celebrate her death, whereas the same can be said about those who venerate her. 

Good point.

Nope it's already been said why that's not a good point.

[Josephus]

and I'm saying it is.

[The Larch]

That is because, and this is my personal impression, deep down and excepting an extremely vocal fringe, you Yanks are largely speaking extremely reverential of your authority figures, and the president is the top dog amongst them. You may not like him, and despise government and bureaucracy, but damn, he's the motherfucking president.

I think you're confusing extreme reverence with a simple respect for the office.

Indeed. We talk a lot of shit about our presidents.

I covered that in the bolded part. You might talk shit about them, of course, that always happens in any democracy, but at the end of the day the president is, broadly speaking, extremely respected.

[Admiral Yi]

I'm not sugesting anything, I don't know those people, I was just disputing your implied need to be a card-carrying unionized miner or a descendant of one as prerequisite for those attitudes.

I was pointing out that Jake was defending the anger against her on the basis of the harm done to those communities.

If you want to make the case that middle class 20 year old London wankers have a basis for celebrating her death, feel free to make it.

[The Larch]

I just wonder why "half of them weren't even alive when she was the prime minister" is used against those who celebrate her death, whereas the same can be said about those who venerate her. 

How many 20 year olds are venerating her?

Have you been to a Young Tories meeting recently?

Or to Pdox OT. 

[The Larch]

I'm not sugesting anything, I don't know those people, I was just disputing your implied need to be a card-carrying unionized miner or a descendant of one as prerequisite for those attitudes.

I was pointing out that Jake was defending the anger against her on the basis of the harm done to those communities.

If you want to make the case that middle class 20 year old London wankers have a basis for celebrating her death, feel free to make it.

Mining communities might have been her main target, and thats what has permeated the most in public conscience, but by no means were them the only ones. And Im not making the case for any celebration, dont put words in my mouth.

[Admiral Yi]

And Im not making the case for any celebration, dont put words in my mouth.

I said "if."  Don't be such a hot-blooded Latin.